Match fixing scandal (1 Viewer)

mrtrench · Dec 9, 2013

DJ Campbell has been arrested today for match fixing.
In the papers yesterday, San Sodje was boasting that he has a network of players happy to take £70k for fixing.

I am absolutely not accusing any Coventry player of involvement - There is no evidence of it taking place. However there were a couple of incidents during a recent game where a player made such bizarre errors that the thought had crossed my mind at the time - before I knew of this latest scandal. I hope the Sky Blues are not involved at all.

I strongly advise anyone responding to this chain to avoid mentioning specific incidents or players.

skybluesam66 · Dec 9, 2013

while i hear what you are saying, most of the incidents are around bookings etc

remember when grobbellaar was allegedly paid for throwing a game against us - and we still couldnt beat them

bringbackrattles · Dec 9, 2013

This match fixing scandal will have fans all over the country thinking were any of our players involved ?
This could be just the tip of the Iceberg ? Money rearing it's ugly head again !

Moff · Dec 9, 2013

Sadly match fixing should not be confused with being Shit, like Thorn was as a manager.

ajsccfc · Dec 9, 2013

This isn't really match-fixing in the much wider sense like Calciopoli in 2006. This is some dickheads getting yellow cards for a few quid.

Astute · Dec 9, 2013

mrtrench said:
DJ Campbell has been arrested today for match fixing.
In the papers yesterday, San Sodje was boasting that he has a network of players happy to take £70k for fixing.

I am absolutely not accusing any Coventry player of involvement - There is no evidence of it taking place. However there were a couple of incidents during a recent game where a player made such bizarre errors that the thought had crossed my mind at the time - before I knew of this latest scandal. I hope the Sky Blues are not involved at all.

I strongly advise anyone responding to this chain to avoid mentioning specific incidents or players.

I won't mention Campbell or Sodje then

The Gentleman · Dec 9, 2013

Didn't something like this appear a few years ago when it was throw-ins after some player booted it straight into touch from the kick off ?

ajsccfc · Dec 9, 2013

I think it might have been Matt Le Tissier owned up to doing that, although it seemed to be laughed off in a 'what is he like?' kind of way.

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

When it is a throw in or a booking it isn't really as bad as throwing a game or even a goal.

Is it much different to players who get booked on purpose so they can miss a certain game rather than a big game through suspension?

Astute · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
When it is a throw in or a booking it isn't really as bad as throwing a game or even a goal.

Is it much different to players who get booked on purpose so they can miss a certain game rather than a big game through suspension?

Fraud is fraud though Nick. And once they have started where do they end it? And also the ones paying them have their claws in them. 'Throw the next game or the authorities will find out what you have been up to'

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

Astute said:
Fraud is fraud though Nick. And once they have started where do they end it? And also the ones paying them have their claws in them. 'Throw the next game or the authorities will find out what you have been up to'

Oh I agree it is still against the rules.

SkyblueBazza · Dec 9, 2013

ajsccfc said:
This isn't really match-fixing in the much wider sense like Calciopoli in 2006. This is some dickheads getting yellow cards for a few quid.

A few quid??? £70k

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 9, 2013

ajsccfc said:
I think it might have been Matt Le Tissier owned up to doing that, although it seemed to be laughed off in a 'what is he like?' kind of way.

Yea he had a scam where he would kick the ball out of play in the first minute and win big money. He actually under hit the pass from kick off and his team mate who didn't know anything about it kept the ball in play so he didn't win.

mrtrench · Dec 9, 2013

Astute said:
I won't mention Campbell or Sodje then

Not sure if you are being serious or not. Clearly stating a fact is not an issue, but conjecture on Cov players could turn out to be expensive.

RoboCCFC90 · Dec 9, 2013

skybluesam66 said:
while i hear what you are saying, most of the incidents are around bookings etc

remember when grobbellaar was allegedly paid for throwing a game against us - and we still couldnt beat them

Some of the bookings we have been given this season have just not been bookings in the slightest thanks to referee error.

Make of that what you will.

Astute · Dec 9, 2013

mrtrench said:
Not sure if you are being serious or not. Clearly stating a fact is not an issue, but conjecture on Cov players could turn out to be expensive.

Sorry. Didn't know I had to be serious all the time on here

I may be thick. Not stupid though. Or should I say I am stupid but not thick?

mrtrench · Dec 9, 2013

I'm sorry - no insult intended.

Astute · Dec 9, 2013

Big kiss to you

The Gentleman · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
When it is a throw in or a booking it isn't really as bad as throwing a game or even a goal.

Is it much different to players who get booked on purpose so they can miss a certain game rather than a big game through suspension?

Say that to the Pakistan cricketers for bowling a simple no ball. Cheating is cheating no matter how big or small in whatever walk of life you are involved in. Unfortunately big businesses do it though and it continually gets brushed under the carpet from the authorities that are supposed to police them.................

Hobo · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
When it is a throw in or a booking it isn't really as bad as throwing a game or even a goal.

Is it much different to players who get booked on purpose so they can miss a certain game rather than a big game through suspension?

You really are naive! What if they score from the throw in? The player is scared of a second booking? The player gets a second booking?

Get a grip Nick! It is cheating, cheating the fans of that club! While they pocket the profit!

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

Hobo said:
You really are naive! What if they score from the throw in? The player is scared of a second booking? The player gets a second booking?

Get a grip Nick! It is cheating, cheating the fans of that club! While they pocket the profit!

Read the thread, you know the bit where I said this:

Oh I agree it is still against the rules.

Of course cheating is cheating but is putting the ball out for a throw in near the oppositions goal line as bad as giving in a penalty away in your eyes? Yes, both are wrong but I was just saying that some instances are a lot worse than others.

Hobo · Dec 9, 2013

Nick it doesn't matter where you said it on the thread. You cannot have a sub text going on in the professional game for individuals back pockets.

It makes the game a sham....it makes betting a sham...no winners except the crooks who do it. It would also, quite rightly, bring into doubt all the legitimate stuff that happened.

Grendel · Dec 9, 2013

Hobo said:
Nick it doesn't matter where you said it on the thread. You cannot have a sub text going on in the professional game for individuals back pockets.

It makes the game a sham....it makes betting a sham...no winners except the crooks who do it.

The way Le Tissier tells the story though is really funny

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

Hobo said:
Nick it doesn't matter where you said it on the thread. You cannot have a sub text going on in the professional game for individuals back pockets.

It makes the game a sham....it makes betting a sham...no winners except the crooks who do it. It would also, quite rightly, bring into doubt all the legitimate stuff that happened.

Ahhh I must have missed the bit where I endorsed it..

wingy · Dec 9, 2013

Anyone remember Grobblaar especially in that 4-0 win??

SkyblueBazza · Dec 9, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Some of the bookings we have been given this season have just not been bookings in the slightest thanks to referee error.

Make of that what you will.

Now there's a thing...Refs being involved in spot-fixing would be very attractive to the "fixers". Success guaranteed really - player x sent off in the 21st minute etc.
Real football for real fans becomes ever more a joke then doesn't it?

Hobo · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
When it is a throw in or a booking it isn't really as bad as throwing a game or even a goal.

Is it much different to players who get booked on purpose so they can miss a certain game rather than a big game through suspension?

Nick, that is your exact quote on page 1....stand by "it isn't really as bad as"....but they are still doing it for money through illegal betting.

RoboCCFC90 · Dec 9, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
Now there's a thing...Refs being involved in spot-fixing would be very attractive to the "fixers". Success guaranteed really - player x sent off in the 21st minute etc.
Real football for real fans becomes ever more a joke then doesn't it?

Well lets take the last two yellow cards Callum Wilson received (MK Dons) and (Bradford) the Bradford one was just pathetic and the MK Dons booking he went for the ball and didn't even catch the player so how can have of these decisions be yellows? I am not going to go as far out and say referees are getting paid for making these bookings, but there have been some howlers this season and if the players are under scrutiny then these crime folk should look at the rest of the personel involved with the sport.

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

Hobo said:
Nick, that is your exact quote on page 1....stand by "it isn't really as bad as"....but they are still doing it for money through illegal betting.

Yes but where did I say it wasn't bad? Stop trying to read things that aren't there.

Hobo · Dec 9, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Well lets take the last two yellow cards Callum Wilson received (MK Dons) and (Bradford) the Bradford one was just pathetic and the MK Dons booking he went for the ball and didn't even catch the player so how can have of these decisions be yellows? I am not going to go as far out and say referees are getting paid for making these bookings, but there have been some howlers this season and if the players are under scrutiny then these crime folk should look at the rest of the personel involved with the sport.

There is a massive difference between genuine human error, however appalling, compared to actions solely motivated by individual monetary profit.

Grendel · Dec 9, 2013

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dmits-10-000-Premier-League-betting-scam.html

mrtrench · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
Yes but where did I say it wasn't bad? Stop trying to read things that aren't there.

So you think that we should play Baker on the left? Why?

Hobo · Dec 9, 2013

Nick said:
Yes but where did I say it wasn't bad? Stop trying to read things that aren't there.

Where did you say it was?

Nick · Dec 9, 2013

Hobo said:
Where did you say it was?

So what are you talking about, going off on one about random shit nobody has said?

ajsccfc · Dec 9, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
A few quid??? £70k

Not meant literally. They're not just getting yellow cards either, one lad got himself sent off.

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