He was offside to be fairAgree about the 2nd goal vs Derby. 2 points robbed I say.
He was offside to be fair
Yeah I thought he was on at first alsoGreat angle. From iFollow looked well on. Shows how much an angle changes things.
Only because Ponticelli left for Wrexham...The best finisher at the club bar none.
I’d much rather see offside technology invested in and mandated at this level than goal line tech or VAR. much higher rate of return. Linos can still decide if a player is active or whatever but the basic “was he offside” stuff would be taken away and fans would have more faith.
Also offside from a FK is criminal really.
Problem is to do it accurately you'd need every inch of the pitch covered by cameras etc & even then, the ones that VAR use are no good as frame rate is incapable of judging it accurately, margin of error is around 12cm which is enormous.
Didn’t realise that. Is it all visual then? Reconstructs a 3D image I assume? I knew the tech existed but not the details.
Got to be the way forward though now cameras are so cheap and 120fps common.
Offside calls far more common and contentious than goal line calls.
I don't know all the ins & outs of the tech but believe VAR currently just use a still image & then 3D crosshair tech but you need to know the exact split second the ball is kicked & where everyone is positioned at that exact moment.
VAR only use 50fps cameras so you can immediately see the problem.
Apparently margin for error can be as high as 20cm! Naked eye is far better than that provided the official keeps up with play!
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Sorry mate as a computer scientist I won’t have humans are better
120FPS is double the “refresh rate” of the human eye and a computer can look in two places at once. Maybe the current tech is bad but I could see a near future where it’s superhuman in terms of what it could detect.
I reckon 8 high res 120FPS cameras and some decent machine learning could do the job.
Id also argue that if attackers are meant to be given the benefit of the doubt then the posted example should be onside as it’s within the margin on error, but that’s another discussion.
Ha ha, well yes of course if you have the tech capable then sure. The problem at the minute is they're judging somebody's toenail offside by millimetres with tech that simply isn't capable of that accuracy.
Not a tech guy so more a query.
Couldn't they just take a camera and have one person running full speed in one direction and another person in the opposite and then measure the difference in distance between the two between two frames? Then use that as the margin of error? Would allow for the margin of error while giving the striker the benefit of the doubt.
Ha ha, well yes of course if you have the tech capable then sure. The problem at the minute is they're judging somebody's toenail offside by millimetres with tech that simply isn't capable of that accuracy.
It makes officials lazy as well - you only have to see what is happening in cricket and also its frequently still as contentious and drags games out.
Totally agree. Linos/Assistants in the PL are pretty much pointless now.
The spreadsheets out!
What a sad little man.Just read this thread and saw Gs comment and thought immediately of the spreadsheet!!
Most DEFINITELY has one with filters for each user and things G has taken umbrage with over the years or things he things are plain wrong.
Let's just stick with paying a trained professional to make the callsI’d much rather see offside technology invested in and mandated at this level than goal line tech or VAR. much higher rate of return. Linos can still decide if a player is active or whatever but the basic “was he offside” stuff would be taken away and fans would have more faith.
Also offside from a FK is criminal really.
Let's just stick with paying a trained professional to make the calls
Huge amount of moneyI’d much rather see offside technology invested in and mandated at this level than goal line tech or VAR. much higher rate of return. Linos can still decide if a player is active or whatever but the basic “was he offside” stuff would be taken away and fans would have more faith.
Also offside from a FK is criminal really.
Same here, look at premier games a team scores a goal half of their supporters have to wait 5 minutes to see if they can cheer or notI’d take errors over var or any other bollocks all day. Even when it goes against us. Goal line is instant so the only one that works properly for me.
I’d take errors over var or any other bollocks all day. Even when it goes against us. Goal line is instant so the only one that works properly for me.
He looked off from the highlights angle to me. That image really shows what a brilliant decision the lino made to be fair.He was offside to be fair
We know the reasonI just think fundamentally offside isn’t really possible for a human to judge properly in most cases. They need to be looking in two places at once. At the very least a little buzzer that goes off when the ball is played forwards or something.
Or just cut all the crap and go back to clear offsides and benefit of the doubt. All this armpit offside crap goes against the spirit of the game IMO. They seem to have managed to make it harder with all the rule changes.
I don't mind close decisions being right or wrong by human error rather than var but happy to see some of the glaring errors eradicated where someone is miles off or on. O think the rule should be clear and obvious changes only and if you can't see it one viewing the on field decision stands.
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