SkyblueDad
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Do the maths loss of 10000 minimum spectators in our best season for decades plus the loss of corporate etc
Do the maths loss of 10000 minimum spectators in our best season for decades plus the loss of corporate etc£250k every home game???
It’s happened move onDo the maths loss of 10000 minimum spectators in our best season for decades plus the loss of corporate etc
It’s the owners inability or lack of desire to try and fund some form of competitive budget as their only desire is fund recovery and investor payback
Do the maths loss of 10000 minimum spectators in our best season for decades plus the loss of corporate etc
No in the lower leagues but the owners have zero interest in taking the club to another level and as you all know Mr Robins whatever anyone thinks of him worships at the Sisu temple
So you’d prefer a manager that didn’t get on with the owners? If that was the case he wouldn’t be managing us would heNo in the lower leagues but the owners have zero interest in taking the club to another level and as you all know Mr Robins whatever anyone thinks of him worships at the Sisu temple
Have we submitted our accounts yet ?So you’d prefer a manager that didn’t get on with the owners? If that was the case he wouldn’t be managing us would he
What’s that got to do with Robins’ current relationship with the owners?Have we submitted our accounts yet ?
It’s a non story unless you are saying we won’t by the end of may?Have we submitted our accounts yet ?
Who do you think is covering the costs this season and last slowpoke? How much money do you think will have been lost in the last 18 months? Maybe a bit of balance would be in order
Doubt it. Maybe if the season had finished and we’d got some big crowds winning the league we’d have come close. I would think we had a 6 figure loss season we won league one and who can guess this last season. Not dismissing the Northampton move that was outrageous but the Birmingham one was different and we are back hopefully with fully open groundsAren't we about square over the past 18 months? Sale of McCallum then the huge bump in TV money?
A lot of lost income pre-covid was self inflected and avoidable. Once covid kicked in we were pissing in the same pot with all clubs.Who do you think is covering the costs this season and last slowpoke? How much money do you think will have been lost in the last 18 months? Maybe a bit of balance would be in order
So you think the club shouldn't be responsible and live within it's means or attempt to increase budget through improved performance and should instead get handouts from those in charge to fund more than it can afford?
This tends to change with what argument people are having.Aren't we about square over the past 18 months?
Its nothing to do with the club being responsible its to do with the owners.
Have these owners by your definition been responsible in the last two seasons? Without COVID we would have had significant revenue reduction anyway and that is a deliberate strategy decision (a stupid one by a fairly hapless fund manager)
The term handouts is absurd. Not every club blows millions and also not every club tries (and in our case repeatedly fails) to remain cash neutral. The strategy is selling assets to fund annual losses and when that fails get loans to pay back with some hefty interest rates. Its hardly shrewd management.
This owner has no interest in the club other than paying back interest and capital to its fund owners. It has no care what division we are in and will just adjust accordingly to try and achieve that aim
It has a management team that seem to work within this better than they have done anywhere else so it certainly works for both parties but long term we would be far better having owners with a targeted vision for the club - not a means to pay back some anonymous investors.
Can't disagree with any of that but can't see anyone falling over themselves to buy a club in our situation either.
I agree with that. I still prefer a manager to not be at loggerheads with the owners though. Robins knows the situation and is acutely aware of the limitations he has to work with. If he kicked off with the owners and left we could end up with another Russel SladeUnfortunately nor do I. I cannot see any change for a few years they are settled with the strategy but lets forget the notion the woman who controls the funds has any interest in the club other than investment recovery.
Unfortunately nor do I. I cannot see any change for a few years they are settled with the strategy but lets forget the notion the woman who controls the funds has any interest in the club other than investment recovery.
Its nothing to do with the club being responsible its to do with the owners.
Have these owners by your definition been responsible in the last two seasons? Without COVID we would have had significant revenue reduction anyway and that is a deliberate strategy decision (a stupid one by a fairly hapless fund manager)
The term handouts is absurd. Not every club blows millions and also not every club tries (and in our case repeatedly fails) to remain cash neutral. The strategy is selling assets to fund annual losses and when that fails get loans to pay back with some hefty interest rates. Its hardly shrewd management.
This owner has no interest in the club other than paying back interest and capital to its fund owners. It has no care what division we are in and will just adjust accordingly to try and achieve that aim
It has a management team that seem to work within this better than they have done anywhere else so it certainly works for both parties but long term we would be far better having owners with a targeted vision for the club - not a means to pay back some anonymous investors.
But who’s paying?A lot of lost income pre-covid was self inflected and avoidable. Once covid kicked in we were pissing in the same pot with all clubs.
I wonder if that’s true. I wouldn’t be that certain. Have you spoken to them and asked about the vision and aims or are you making a calculated guess based on the little you know?Its nothing to do with the club being responsible its to do with the owners.
Have these owners by your definition been responsible in the last two seasons? Without COVID we would have had significant revenue reduction anyway and that is a deliberate strategy decision (a stupid one by a fairly hapless fund manager)
The term handouts is absurd. Not every club blows millions and also not every club tries (and in our case repeatedly fails) to remain cash neutral. The strategy is selling assets to fund annual losses and when that fails get loans to pay back with some hefty interest rates. Its hardly shrewd management.
This owner has no interest in the club other than paying back interest and capital to its fund owners. It has no care what division we are in and will just adjust accordingly to try and achieve that aim
It has a management team that seem to work within this better than they have done anywhere else so it certainly works for both parties but long term we would be far better having owners with a targeted vision for the club - not a means to pay back some anonymous investors.
Depends if you believe anything they say I dont have lied for years why would they change now.I wonder if that’s true. I wouldn’t be that certain. Have you spoken to them and asked about the vision and aims or are you making a calculated guess based on the little you know?
Believe it or not money isn’t the only thing a player considers when making a move. If he can come here and earn 7.5k, without having to move house, uproot his family and leave where he has been for the last 10 years to join a club where he is a guaranteed starter. I’m sure he’d much rather do that than join someone like Middlesbrough on 13k a week where he will have to completely uproot and isn’t guaranteed to play.
And what a player he wasSome players will take less money to stay in the area, if you listen to Steve Froggatt’s interview on bbc he says he turned more money down from Middlesbrough to stay in the same house as his wife was pregnant at the time to sign for us.
I wonder if that’s true. I wouldn’t be that certain. Have you spoken to them and asked about the vision and aims or are you making a calculated guess based on the little you know?
I think the way the club has been run in the last 10 years has been chalk and cheese. The first 6 years was disastrous and the last 4 not at allDepends if you believe anything they say I dont have lied for years why would they change now.
Their vision Oh that new ground is it finished yet?
Why is she basil fawlty is she not successful? She seems relatively successful in terms of profit and position. In any case the football club is all I am interested in not Sisu and not joy really although she’s pretty lovely on a purely personal levelIts what I know from their actions rather than mealy mouth words. I've met some of this hapless bunch and they are very underwhelming in my view. Many like Garlick have been taken in and made to look rather foolish. Sepalla is the the Hedge Fund equivalent of Basil Fawlty in the hotelier world. Why not tell her that the next time she's spouting utter bollocks when you meet her
BTW both of the options you have given.Why is she basil fawlty is she not successful? She seems relatively successful in terms of profit and position. In any case the football club is all I am interested in not Sisu and not joy really although she’s pretty lovely on a purely personal level
How have people been taken in? The new stadium? Believing she cares about the football club? Can you be specific?
I don’t think so in all honesty. I’ve been reliving some historic posts when we moved to Northampton it would take a lot for me to forgive the main players for what they did thereWow you are smitten.
But who’s paying?
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