Medical emergencies at football games (2 Viewers)

Happy_Martian · Oct 19, 2021

Just seen this on the Beeb website. Following our own medical emergencies this season, with the sad passing of the fan at the Forest game and the close escape with the fan who collapsed at the Luton game, please, please be aware of who is around you when you're at a game. If they look like they are having difficulties, alert a steward as soon as possible. Speedy attention can save lives.

Newcastle v Tottenham: Doctor describes how he helped save fan's life

A doctor describes the moment he went to the aid of an elderly Newcastle United supporter who collapsed near him.

www.bbc.co.uk

wingy · Oct 19, 2021

Happy_Martian said:
Just seen this on the Beeb website. Following our own medical emergencies this season, with the sad passing of the fan at the Forest game and the close escape with the fan who collapsed at the Luton game, please, please be aware of who is around you when you're at a game. If they look like they are having difficulties, alert a steward as soon as possible. Speedy attention can save lives.

Newcastle v Tottenham: Doctor describes how he helped save fan's life

A doctor describes the moment he went to the aid of an elderly Newcastle United supporter who collapsed near him.

www.bbc.co.uk

And Newcastle at the weekend.

SkyBlueScottie · Oct 19, 2021

I've got to say it didn't feel right that the game continued while a fellow fan was receiving treatment, I realise its a rare occurrence, but would much prefer the game to be stopped for a short while as it was at the weekend and Luton. The weekend also showed how vital defibs are to helping a person in such trouble, are there any at the CBS?

Happy_Martian · Oct 19, 2021

wingy said:
And Newcastle at the weekend.

Wingy, the Beeb story is about the Newcastle emergency.

wingy · Oct 19, 2021

Happy_Martian said:
Wingy, the Beeb story is about the Newcastle emergency.

Ah went in blind and blonde Lol.

covboy1987 · Oct 20, 2021

SkyBlueScottie said:
I've got to say it didn't feel right that the game continued while a fellow fan was receiving treatment, I realise its a rare occurrence, but would much prefer the game to be stopped for a short while as it was at the weekend and Luton. The weekend also showed how vital defibs are to helping a person in such trouble, are there any at the CBS?

There are 14 Defibs on the CBS site and over 100 staff are trained to use the equipment - The arena is a leader in the provision of defibs at a major venue in the uk

chiefdave · Oct 20, 2021

SkyBlueScottie said:
The weekend also showed how vital defibs are to helping a person in such trouble, are there any at the CBS?

This app shows you where the nearest one is an also the location of people trained to perform CPR.

GoodSAM

Good SmartPhone Activated Medics

www.goodsamapp.org

Houchens Head · Oct 20, 2021

With my heart condition, after 4 heart attacks and bypass, I always carry round with me, my GTN spray (Glyceryl trinitrate). It can be a life saver if used early enough. I would be more than happy to allow someone to use my spray if needed. There's no concern about passing germs either. It is sprayed under the tongue from a few centimetres away, not coming into any contact with the person needing it. I've had to use it myself a few times when I've had an angina attack. The only downside is that it always leaves me with a pounding headache, but I suppose that's better than the other possible outcome. What I'm suggesting is, if there's anyone else on here that has personal access to GTN, carry it with you You never know when it could be needed.

Houchens Head · Oct 20, 2021

Happy_Martian said:
Just seen this on the Beeb website. Following our own medical emergencies this season, with the sad passing of the fan at the Forest game and the close escape with the fan who collapsed at the Luton game, please, please be aware of who is around you when you're at a game. If they look like they are having difficulties, alert a steward as soon as possible. Speedy attention can save lives.

Newcastle v Tottenham: Doctor describes how he helped save fan's life

A doctor describes the moment he went to the aid of an elderly Newcastle United supporter who collapsed near him.

www.bbc.co.uk

Excellent post by the way.

Houchens Head · Oct 20, 2021

covboy1987 said:
There are 14 Defibs on the CBS site and over 100 staff are trained to use the equipment - The arena is a leader in the provision of defibs at a major venue in the uk

When I was a steward ay Highfield Rd back in the 90's, we were always told that a match couldn't go ahead unless there were a certain number of stewards and also appropriate St John Ambulance staff cover. Thankfully, never once was this ruling brought into effect, but it's a little known ruling that the supporters never knew about.
Don't know about the rules today, but I guess they are more lax because of mobile phones, training in first aid, etc. The only training I did as a steward was the use of fire extinguishers around the ground and crowd control.

no_loyalty · Oct 20, 2021

Ginola made an excellent point about not enough people knowing how to do CPR, I must admit I wouldn’t have a clue.

Houchens Head · Oct 20, 2021

no_loyalty said:
Ginola made an excellent point about not enough people knowing how to do CPR, I must admit I wouldn’t have a clue.

I did a first aid course years ago, but sadly forgotten most of it. But I really think if the situation arose in front of me, it would just all come back. I also sincerely believe that basic first aid should be taught in all schools, increasing the knowledge as school years go on. In the home, this might save lives, reduce time spent at doctors, reduce the need for unnecessary visits to A & E etc, etc.

olderskyblue · Oct 20, 2021

Houchens Head said:
With my heart condition, after 4 heart attacks and bypass, I always carry round with me, my GTN spray (Glyceryl trinitrate). It can be a life saver if used early enough. I would be more than happy to allow someone to use my spray if needed. There's no concern about passing germs either. It is sprayed under the tongue from a few centimetres away, not coming into any contact with the person needing it. I've had to use it myself a few times when I've had an angina attack. The only downside is that it always leaves me with a pounding headache, but I suppose that's better than the other possible outcome. What I'm suggesting is, if there's anyone else on here that has personal access to GTN, carry it with you You never know when it could be needed.
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If someone has acess to a GTN, it's because they may need it, so should always carry it with them regardless... The chance it could help someone else is a bonus..

baldy · Oct 20, 2021

Said it during the Euros but why the hell isn't there paramedics etc on BOTH sides of the pitch?

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 20, 2021

At highfield road the guy that sat behind me had a heart attack, it was a shock to see and me and the chap I sat next two went down to the bar for the rest of the game, as it was before social media we had to wait until the next game to see if he survived. Fortunately he did and was back in the ground three weeks later shouting, going mad and spitting on me just as he did before. He was a chain smoker who in one game kept calling Sol Campbell a camel, he used to say keep it on the island and that we hadn’t taken a decent thrown in since the 60’s

CDK · Oct 21, 2021

There does seem to have been a few emergency's into the crowds by medics this season more so than normal.

higgs · Oct 21, 2021

CDK said:
There does seem to have been a few emergency's into the crowds by medics this season more so than normal.

Is it the vaccine?

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Mr Panda · Oct 21, 2021

Do you think it's something about football games that causes people to have an attack there and then? I always get that rush of adrenaline when I walk up the steps or the teams lineup before the game. If you're susceptible would this be a scenario you'd likely have an attack?

There does seem to be alot of stories of fans falling ill at games.

Houchens Head · Oct 22, 2021

Mr Panda said:
Do you think it's something about football games that causes people to have an attack there and then? I always get that rush of adrenaline when I walk up the steps or the teams lineup before the game. If you're susceptible would this be a scenario you'd likely have an attack?

There does seem to be alot of stories of fans falling ill at games.

Slightly unrelated, but I remember way back in 1982 when the Pope came to Coventry. It was at Baginton Airport with crowds of about 350,000. On the news at the time it was said that there would be at least 2 or 3 ambulance type vehicles with on-board coffins because the odds of someone dying during the visit was quite high. When you think about it, I reckon it makes sense.

chiefdave · Oct 22, 2021

Mr Panda said:
Do you think it's something about football games that causes people to have an attack there and then? I always get that rush of adrenaline when I walk up the steps or the teams lineup before the game. If you're susceptible would this be a scenario you'd likely have an attack?

There does seem to be alot of stories of fans falling ill at games.

There was a documentary on TV years ago where they wired people up so they could monitor people in various situations to see the impact of the stress on the body. The readings they got off a chap at the football were by far the worst.

Evo1883 · Oct 22, 2021

higgs said:
Is it the vaccine?

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Probably more to do with the ever increasing threat of obesity and drug use at football matches

Both people I know that have had heart attacks at football were large men

I appreciate not everybody that has a heart attack is large

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Oct 22, 2021

Mr Panda said:
Do you think it's something about football games that causes people to have an attack there and then? I always get that rush of adrenaline when I walk up the steps or the teams lineup before the game. If you're susceptible would this be a scenario you'd likely have an attack?

There does seem to be alot of stories of fans falling ill at games.

The amount of near heart attacks I've had over the yeas watching the Sky Blues.

Houchens Head · Oct 22, 2021

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
The amount of near heart attacks I've had over the yeas watching the Sky Blues.

You can have a couple of mine. I've had four of the buggers!

higgs · Oct 22, 2021

Houchens Head said:
You can have a couple of mine. I've had four of the buggers!

Do u wish u had picked another team to follow when u were a kid?

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Frank Sidebottom · Oct 23, 2021

Another at West Brom today. Hope they're alright.

Happy_Martian · Dec 1, 2021

Regrettably, this issue continues in our game. Watching the Watford-Chelsea game on Amazon Prime TV tonight, another stoppage due to a fan suffering a medical emergency during the game. Game stopped after 15 mins while the person was stabilised. Luckily, Vicarage Road is next to a hospital so the person should get speedy care.

But in more positive news, defib machines have been donated to 2000 grassroots clubs.

2,000 defibrillators donated to grassroots football clubs

Two thousand defibrillators are being donated to grassroots football clubs across England and Wales.

www.bbc.co.uk

wingy · Dec 1, 2021

Happy_Martian said:
Regrettably, this issue continues in our game. Watching the Watford-Chelsea game on Amazon Prime TV tonight, another stoppage due to a fan suffering a medical emergency during the game. Game stopped after 15 mins while the person was stabilised. Luckily, Vicarage Road is next to a hospital so the person should get speedy care.

But in more positive news, defib machines have been donated to 2000 grassroots clubs.

2,000 defibrillators donated to grassroots football clubs

Two thousand defibrillators are being donated to grassroots football clubs across England and Wales.

www.bbc.co.uk

They should be everywhere.
Only around£200 I was gobsmacked to be working for a multinational events company 2-3 yrs ago majority of the workforce 60's , not one about.

Saddlebrains · Dec 1, 2021

Lets be honest there's something not right here

Saddlebrains · Dec 1, 2021

And no im not saying vaccine before anyone cries.

Is it cocaine use?

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 1, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
Lets be honest there's something not right here

Have a guess how many people die of heart related illness every year

COV · Dec 1, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
And no im not saying vaccine before anyone cries.

Is it cocaine use?

I was reading that the extended period of lockdown may have messed up people’s natural resistance to.. normal life really- plus perpetually heightened anxiety as well, so nothing to do with vaccines but covid related of sorts

Warthog · Dec 1, 2021

Don’t get jabbed lads x

Sky Blue Pete · Dec 1, 2021

COV said:
I was reading that the extended period of lockdown may have messed up people’s natural resistance to.. normal life really- plus perpetually heightened anxiety as well, so nothing to do with vaccines but covid related of sorts

Makes sense

Saddlebrains · Dec 1, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Have a guess how many people die of heart related illness every year

Have a guess how many people start having cardiacs at football stadiums leading to delays in play every year before now

Because we all know its nowhere near the amount it is now.

Again, not sayin vaccine but it really needs looking into, its becoming a massive problem.

Another one at Leicester Southampton just now also

Evo1883 · Dec 1, 2021

Does seem to be happening an awful lot recently mind you

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