Nick
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He probably pays good money for that already.
Is sisu leave tomorrow I hope if Duggins ever attempts to go to a city game he get a sky blue smoke bomb rammed up his arse.
What people say on this blog can't be controlled, as we can see!! But the key thing is that the central voices are measured - Mark, Pete, Nick, FP, OSB, even you Grendel, and the few others. If the outliers continue to rant, so be it.I think shouting abuse at Wasps should not be discouraged
What people say on this blog can't be controlled, as we can see!! But the key thing is that the central voices are measured - Mark, Pete, Nick, FP, OSB, even you Grendel, and the few others. If the outliers continue to rant, so be it.
What people say on this blog can't be controlled, as we can see!! But the key thing is that the central voices are measured - Mark, Pete, Nick, FP, OSB, even you Grendel, and the few others. If the outliers continue to rant, so be it.
I don't see myself as a central voice to be honest, I think Mark and Pete have managed to say the same things most people are thinking but in a diplomatic way.
If you want to retain SBT's involvement you can't avoid a role. Why should JS listen to SBT if Mark and Pete are the only two being measured in their criticism?I don't see myself as a central voice to be honest, I think Mark and Pete have managed to say the same things most people are thinking but in a diplomatic way.
Not Sisu it says he doesn’t give a toss about ccfc
If you want to retain SBT's involvement you can't avoid a role. Why should JS listen to SBT if Mark and Pete are the only two being measured in their criticism?
Ah yes. Good old measured Nick and Grendel.
In all seriousness, the reputation of this forum outside of Sisu isn’t great and we should be aware of that.
That's 5he thing the arrogance seeps out of him but he isn't addressing sisu, if he was it wouldnt bother me, he's addressing the concerns of a group of supporters.
What an absolute wanker.
It still represents a fair number of match attendees.
What have we got, 3 to 4000 ST holders. There's a decent number on here.
In all seriousness, the reputation of this forum outside of Sisu isn’t great and we should be aware of that.
It still represents a fair number of match attendees.
What have we got, 3 to 4000 ST holders. There's a decent number on here.
Well have to agree to disagree on this one. You call it aggressive. I call it challenge. Potato potahto. I am always doing me, I can’t do no one else.
Sorry if I’ve misunderstood but both you and Pete have said you didn’t want to question responses straight away and the main aim was setting up a meeting. Didn’t mean to misrepresent. More meant to be a mea culpa that i had got the wrong end of the stick and had incorrect expectations.
He does have a point though- read this thread and tell me there is a balanced approach to the situation- there isn't. It started off well enough but soon disintegrated into a slanging match & people being hounded for questioning the owners, which anyone is perfectly entitled to do. Its way too extreme.
Why's that do you think?
Do you think it has anything to do with people making things up and spreading lies about being run by SISU etc? Do you think it has anything to do with people on here seeing through the random bullshit propaganda that people put out?
I have had somebody in a pub think I work for SISU when they were telling somebody about this site, not realising I was stood there laughing at it.
It has been years of people spreading lies because they don't like what is said on here and that people see straight through bullshit.
It was you who tried to make out that I was getting freebies from SISU and that I have links to them, wasn't it? That wasn't true in the slightest.
Funny really as the hardcore people making things up have now been shown to have Trust / Council involvement who have no interest in CCFC and have moved onto going after people on social media.
He does have a point though- read this thread and tell me there is a balanced approach to the situation- there isn't. It started off well enough but soon disintegrated into a slanging match & people being hounded for questioning the owners, which anyone is perfectly entitled to do. Its way too extreme.
What kind of freebies would SISU be handing out?
You will probably find it was the way shmmeee lost his head early doors.
Nobody else has been "hounded" have they?
He always makes an effort to answer and he is the leader of the council isnt he?Have we reached out to opposition councillors BTW? Maybe they can ask some questions/get some info that we can’t? Not sure why everything has to go to Duggins.
He has tried to make out I have links to them and get free season tickets to discredit me and this site. Neither of those is true in the slightest.
Call it a question of tone then if you like. It all comes across a bit 'rabid', which is exactly the approach I would have thought we would like to avoid seeing as it is utilised so much by the twitter & facebook brigade. I could imagine that from the outside looking in all people would see is two groups of nutters who are exactly alike apart from they blame different people.
I am sure it only comes across as rabid because of what it was in response to and why.
Why- whats the motive there?
He thinks he is addressing Sisu and we are just a bunch of internet weirdos. The view is there’s maybe 20 people on here and they’re all up Sisus arse and irrationally hate Wasps and the council. The two main people have spent years trolling councillors and the Trust on Twitter and generally being a dick.
Whether we like it or not the role of SBT is pretty solidified as the anti-Trust. Everything this forum says about the Trust replace Wasps or CCC with Sisu and you’ve got what other groups say about us. Which is what I said in my OP in this thread that triggered everyone. It’s Sisu/Observer/SBT vs Wasps/CET/other SBT now. Any meetings will be assumed to be a proxy for Sisu. Because that’s what happens when you don’t build relationships and are guided mostly by hatred of another organisation. As we saw with the Trust.
Maybe so, however I would argue pretty strongly that in order to be heard & noticed, a balanced & measured approach- a smart approach- is best, all this rowing & arguing serves no purpose apart from to make us easier to ignore as a rabble.
As I say I think my frustration was borne from a misunderstanding of the objectives of your group. From the initial statement I thought it was about “holding all parties to account” and read this with that eye, looking for account as it were. From a perspective of bridge building, it’s a cracking success. And as I say those of us who want to hold someone to account (anyone by the looks of it) will just have to hold tight.
This forum will need to go a long way to get as close to the owners as the trust are to wasps.
And I say that as someone who has jumped to their defence against bullshit accusations on here regularly and recently..
But their relationship with wasps is beyond cosy unfortunately.
Because there's a range of people on here with different views who cut through the bullshit and don't blindly believe everything.
You have people coming on here who have tried to post bullshit and have been asked questions about it and not liked that they had been questioned.
If this site gets discredited then when bullshit from the council or Wasps is pointed out then it is just "Oh it's just because they are on SISU's payroll, they are making it up" type shit. No matter how true it is.
This forum will need to go a long way to get as close to the owners as the trust are to wasps.
And I say that as someone who has jumped to their defence against bullshit accusations on here regularly and recently..
But their relationship with wasps is beyond cosy unfortunately.
I should be clear here. I’m not talking about what is. Not am I talking about Mark and Pete. Just saying how the forum as a whole is seen.
I mean in the articles. It’s always the same. We always come out with more questions than answers and no further forward when we all know the follow up questions that are needed.
Reading back it seems I’ve misunderstood and this was a report on Pete’s contact? God knows. Fucking CET reporting.
tbh I wouldn't know about discrediting sites but then I'm 500 miles away. A very strange thing to do.
You mention restraint above- I think that is absolutely critical because with a smart approach we can rise above all the nonsense and claptrap emanating from the other people and just argue the point clearly and very effectively with cold, hard facts.
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