What did he do wrong tonight?
And mcfadzean didn’t tackle to stop the pull backNot sure why Rose is being blamed for the first goal. Hyam again was the deepest of the 3 centre backs playing their player onside, and then was a bit slow to come out and block the shot.
Rose. Get rid. I want Andy Webster back.
Sheaf. Get rid. I want Adam Barton back.
Anyone got any guesses for who should be next on my get rid list?
Godden. Get rid. I want Josh McQuoid back.
Dabo in cdmGiles. Get rid as a lwb. I want him to play as a cam
Not sure why Rose is being blamed for the first goal. Hyam again was the deepest of the 3 centre backs playing their player onside, and then was a bit slow to come out and block the shot.
We might not have been actively trying to play offside but Hyam has got to be aware of what is happening when Rose has travelled that far - it's not a split second decision for him of whether to step up to McFadz line (or even drop off and sweep). Everything Hyam needs to see is right there in front of him too. Rose's mistake? Yes? Could his fellow CBs have handled it better? Definitely.We're not trying to play offside there.
Rose, for reasons only known to him, went & stood in midfield - ball watching, completely abandoning his position. Swansea duly attacked the gaping hole he left forcing McFadz across.
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He actually did it in on a few other occasions too, the Lowe shot which he skied came from the same thing.
We might not have been actively trying to play offside but Hyam has got to be aware of what is happening when Rose has travelled that far - it's not a split second decision for him of whether to step up to McFadz line (or even drop off and sweep). Everything Hyam needs to see is right there in front of him too. Rose's mistake? Yes? Could his fellow CBs have handled it better? Definitely.
Despite Rose being out of position, there was still plenty of work to do for them to score. It's probably also worth being clear that Rose has followed Lowe up there, it isn't that he's wandering chasing the ball.
That's twice this season (Bristol and last night) where Hyam has been caught behind the other two centre backs. As you say, he's looking across the line and needs to be thinking about at least holding the line with McFadz.
I don't disagree with that but it's a really poor decision from Rose - he has no need to follow Lowe there he should pass him on to Sheaf/Allen, by doing what he did there they're in behind us with just one simple pass.
Could Hyam have done more? Possibly. Probably McFadz too but it all stems from Rose's error of judgement.
I certainly wouldn't go as far as Grendel last night in suggesting either is our of their depth but both Rose & Hyam make some very basic errors which will be punished far more at this level.
It's a learning curve I suppose, new players to this level. I thought we otherwise defended well against a decent strike force.
Thing is we’re saying that regularly now “we won’t come up agaisnt the quality of <enter player here>. Fact is we will. Blackburn have good players - Bradley Dack is a class player, we all know Armstrong is a class player. Middlesbrough have Assambalonga, Derby in a few weeks have Rooney.Definitely. We won't come up against the quality of Ayew every week & the more they play at this level I'm sure we can iron out some of the errors. With Rose I think it's predominantly just being a bit rusty in fairness.
Great to have Østigård too.
Fortunately this is a much better team than the one we left with in 2012Thing is we’re saying that regularly now “we won’t come up agaisnt the quality of <enter player here>. Fact is we will. Blackburn have good players - Bradley Dack is a class player, we all know Armstrong is a class player. Middlesbrough have Assambalonga, Derby in a few weeks have Rooney.
this is a much better league than the one we left in 2012, agree about Rose there, he can’t be anywhere near match fit
agreed. Looked at the squad the other day. I’d only have Jutkiewicz and Norwood from that squad and possibly Murphy as back up.Fortunately this is a much better team than the one we left with in 2012
Thing is we’re saying that regularly now “we won’t come up agaisnt the quality of <enter player here>. Fact is we will. Blackburn have good players - Bradley Dack is a class player, we all know Armstrong is a class player. Middlesbrough have Assambalonga, Derby in a few weeks have Rooney.
this is a much better league than the one we left in 2012, agree about Rose there, he can’t be anywhere near match fit
Not sure why Rose is being blamed for the first goal. Hyam again was the deepest of the 3 centre backs playing their player onside, and then was a bit slow to come out and block the shot.
It’s mad - the quality in this league nowYeah, agree with that - all the teams have some serious quality. I meant more of the complete all around forward play from Ayew that can cause problems in so many different ways.
Rooney for example is still a class act but won't be running into the channels, dragging the CBs out of position etc.
He’s been very poor since his return
Delighted about a City player being sent off - you need to take a long hard look at yourself son.Does anyone want tonights lottery numbers?
Delighted about a City player being sent off - you need to take a long hard look at yourself son.
Hyam is much more comfortable on the ball than Rose imo.There is no doubt he's one of the better passers out of defence as compared to Hyam. But he can't defend. Which is his primary job.
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