Michael Rose (3 Viewers)

Ann Proctor-Brown · Oct 24, 2020

Leeds had a lucky escape.

mark_ccfc · Oct 24, 2020

Can't wait for the "Michael Rose | Blackburn reaction" video

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 25, 2020

Watching that pen it’s great play by Brereton who causes the coming together. Rose is stumbling having missed the header, if he had gone to ground I’m convinced he may have got away with a yellow. It’s the push the ref doesn’t like.

He and the whole of the team need to learn that there are different laws at this level of the game.

I’ve recently got back into reffing and I’ve been gobsmacked by the different interpretations of situations that we discuss for the different levels of football

There are literally different decisions required for different levels of the game and we are really being shown up for not getting an understanding

Ohare is being bullied when he just needs to watch someone like Cantwell or Brereton and realise you play the defender to get what you want and often that is a free kick

Same with hamers red. If pushed as he was you dive on the floor and stay there while the ref delivers the punishment.

I don’t want opposition managers saying we play the game right and will be ok. I want them to be pissed off with how we play and aggrieved at the result or decisions going against them.

I do hope rose and adi will look at the situation and be able to replicate the theory

Marosi should have been straight out
Rose should be in line with his defender mates
Rose should have tackled not pushed

Game over at that point

fernandopartridge · Oct 25, 2020

It's just stupidity. The player was by no means guaranteed to score and even if he did there was a long time left. Granted it might have been a spontaneous act from Rose but still

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 25, 2020

Ann Proctor-Brown said:
Leeds had a lucky escape.

Not really as he wouldn’t have been on their 50 man shortlist for a centre back. It was invented by his agent

Evo1883 · Oct 25, 2020

Think Rose, despite supporters already deciding he's shite... Deserves the benefit of the doubt in terms of form... He's been out injured and maybe was re introduced too soon... Either way give the lad a chance he's been a good player for us

It's starting to look like the SMB on here

SeaSeeEffCee · Oct 25, 2020

Ostigard’s shirt to lose for a while now imo

fernandopartridge · Oct 25, 2020

Evo1883 said:
Think Rose, despite supporters already deciding he's shite... Deserves the benefit of the doubt in terms of form... He's been out injured and maybe was re introduced too soon... Either way give the lad a chance he's been a good player for us

It's starting to look like the SMB on here

Agreed, he's been good on the ball but just been caught once or twice. Still confident that he's good enough personally

Grendel · Oct 25, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Agreed, he's been good on the ball but just been caught once or twice. Still confident that he's good enough personally

He looks a better long term bet than Hyam

AFCCOVENTRY · Oct 25, 2020

Let’s see Osti gets on now

Old Warwickshire lad · Oct 25, 2020

Ok Rose made a poor challenge, but it was a harsh sending off. Most of you were waxing lyrical about him being premier league class last season, now you hang him for a mistake lol.
There were a lot of poor performances yesterday and we got what we deserved, nowt.
We wouldn’t have won yesterday with 12 men.

Hobo · Oct 25, 2020

Grendel said:
He looks a better long term bet than Hyam

He is the more experienced of the two.

Grendel · Oct 25, 2020

Hobo said:
He is the more experienced of the two.

Not in English football he isn’t

Hobo · Oct 25, 2020

Grendel said:
Not in English football he isn’t

Both are inexperienced at this level of competitive football - so both deserve a bit of time to find their feet.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 25, 2020

Hobo said:
Both are inexperienced at this level of competitive football - so both deserve a bit of time to find their feet.

Hyam, Kelly and Shipley have all gone up two leagues in 3 seasons, they haven’t done *too* badly considering that

Hobo · Oct 25, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hyam, Kelly and Shipley have all gone up two leagues in 3 seasons, they haven’t done *too* badly considering that

I totally agree. But this step up is the biggest and some of our fans just need a bit of a reality check. Its a learning season and we just have to hang on in there and stay up.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 25, 2020

Hobo said:
I totally agree. But this step up is the biggest and some of our fans just need a bit of a reality check. Its a learning season and we just have to hang on in there and stay up.

If we survive a good number of these players will get moved on but if we go down we’ll need them. They have all deserved a crack at this level but need to learn fast

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 25, 2020

Warwickshire lad said:
Ok Rose made a poor challenge, but it was a harsh sending off. Most of you were waxing lyrical about him being premier league class last season, now you hang him for a mistake lol.
There were a lot of poor performances yesterday and we got what we deserved, nowt.
We wouldn’t have won yesterday with 12 men.

It wasn't a harsh sending off - it was correct according to the laws of the game. Rose should know that, let the man go and hope Marosi makes the save. Even if he'd lunged in with his feet he'd have got away with a yellow as the ref was likely to interpret it as a genuine challenge, esp early in the game. The thing you don't do is tug them back or push them because that isn't a genuine challenge and makes the ref's decision easier. That's what he did.

Now you could say compared to the shithousery of the likes of Bournemouth with Hamer and yesterday's Watford game, or Lamela with Martial, or Shaw's cynical hack, it seems over the top, but that doesn't make the sending off harsh. The fault there is too much leniency in the other decisions.

How that affected our performance and the mental aspect of our players we can never know. We'd started competitively and while they we getting joy behind our wing/full backs with the extra CB to ocver that may have negated it to some extent and we'd have grown in confidnece in the game while theirs may have waned. To say we wouldn't have won with 12 men is comparing apples and oranges.

Grendel · Oct 25, 2020

Hobo said:
I totally agree. But this step up is the biggest and some of our fans just need a bit of a reality check. Its a learning season and we just have to hang on in there and stay up.

We do but like a lot of players I don’t think the manager is capable at this level

rhino1002 · Oct 25, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It wasn't a harsh sending off - it was correct according to the laws of the game. Rose should know that, let the man go and hope Marosi makes the save. Even if he'd lunged in with his feet he'd have got away with a yellow as the ref was likely to interpret it as a genuine challenge, esp early in the game. The thing you don't do is tug them back or push them because that isn't a genuine challenge and makes the ref's decision easier. That's what he did.

Now you could say compared to the shithousery of the likes of Bournemouth with Hamer and yesterday's Watford game, or Lamela with Martial, or Shaw's cynical hack, it seems over the top, but that doesn't make the sending off harsh. The fault there is too much leniency in the other decisions.

How that affected our performance and the mental aspect of our players we can never know. We'd started competitively and while they we getting joy behind our wing/full backs with the extra CB to ocver that may have negated it to some extent and we'd have grown in confidnece in the game while theirs may have waned. To say we wouldn't have won with 12 men is comparing apples and oranges.

Dreamer is correct
Whether you agree with the law or nor it is the law and whilst it is such then players should respect that
Its no good crying foul and saying it was hard its the law
I never understand players removing their shirts and then being surprised when they get booked
They are professionals and get paid accordingly do the job professionally

Hobo · Oct 25, 2020

Grendel said:
We do but like a lot of players I don’t think the manager is capable at this level

To be honest you thought he wasnt up to it last year and were proved wrong.

It is a tough ask because our budget is limited by Championship standards. We do need several players to progress and it is a big ask.

We have to work woth what we have now until January. So may as well back what we have. Confidence is one of the biggest factors in football at any level. So lets not dedtroy people and hive them a chance.

Our set up Management and coaching is the best we have had for a very long time. Lets see what they can do.

Johhny Blue · Oct 25, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Don't deink and post - Nick, perhaps you could start a section on the forum for when people can post when under the influence?!

Sign me up

shmmeee · Oct 26, 2020

Grendel said:
We do but like a lot of players I don’t think the manager is capable at this level

Who would you get in who can do better with this squad? Are you including Viveash in that?

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Oct 26, 2020

It's amazing the amount of bias we have as fans. Both Rose and Hamer were stonewall red cards by the letter of the law, and still both had people saying 'It wasn't a red', or 'harsh red'. Get the feeling someone jumps in two footed some fans would say 'He only had eyes for the ball'

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 26, 2020

Grendel said:
He looks a better long term bet than Hyam

I think so although I think hyam has continued to step up each time he’s been found wanting

Mucca Mad Boys · Oct 26, 2020

Grendel said:
We do but like a lot of players I don’t think the manager is capable at this level

To be fair, you weren’t really fond of Robins in League 1 or 2 either. Two promotions later, I doubt there’s anything more he could do to win you over.

At least your consistent in your criticisms.

JulianDarbyFTW · Oct 26, 2020

I think the players will be capable at this level, but we have too many learning to play at it at the same time. Perhaps we'll improve as the season progresses, or perhaps we need a boost of experience in January. Far too early to write any first team regulars off IMHO.

superskyblue · Oct 30, 2020

Good tonight I thought.

Evo1883 · Oct 30, 2020

Much better tonight

PVA · Oct 30, 2020

Was generally good tonight, but was a bit slow to close down for Reading's first goal.

junglej13 · Oct 30, 2020

Him and Dabo have had no proper preseason on top of the six months not playing. Will probably take both about six or seven games to get up to full match fitness.

shepardo01 · Oct 30, 2020

PVA said:
Was generally good tonight, but was a bit slow to close down for Reading's first goal.

Miles off his man for the third. (The guy who scored the goal)
Some good stuff tonight but could also argue that he could have done better regarding a couple of the goals.

Deleted member 9744 · Oct 30, 2020

It was ridiculous that people were criticising him after last season. Just back from injury after a long time not playing it was inevitable that it would take a few games for him to get up to speed. Same applies to Dabo.

johnwillomagic · Oct 30, 2020

Much better tonight both Dabo & him though still look someway short of being 100% and it shows in both of their performances though both showing signs of getting better & fitter which is very very promising

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