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rob9872

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Sky Blue Pete

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I remember the Russell case, although not too much about the Stone conviction tbh. Not so sure on the imminent release though. Belfield admitted to it initially 5 years ago so would assume they have a reason not to believe him.
Imagine being imprisoned for something you didn’t do
 

rob9872

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Imagine being imprisoned for something you didn’t do
Be awful, especially so long. Although I'd rather that than the alternative of having a killer freed on the streets. There are no winners in any if it, awfully sad whatever the truth.
 

Terry_dactyl

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I hadn’t realised Stone was still in prison for this. I know Bellfield had been linked to it previously.
Fucking awful.
 

clint van damme

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Be awful, especially so long. Although I'd rather that than the alternative of having a killer freed on the streets. There are no winners in any if it, awfully sad whatever the truth.

That doesn't make sense, you imprison the wrong person, the case is closed, and there is still a killer walking the street but an in ocent person is in jail.
 

rob9872

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That doesn't make sense, you imprison the wrong person, the case is closed, and there is still a killer walking the street but an in ocent person is in jail.
Sorry CVD,to clarify in this case I meant. I thought the rest of the post that was clear. Here the person claiming to be responsible, is already locked up and may only want the notoriety of more as he's never coming out anyway.
 

clint van damme

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Sorry CVD,to clarify in this case I meant. I thought the rest of the post that was clear. Here the person claiming to be responsible, is already locked up and may only want the notoriety of more as he's never coming out anyway.

Right, yeah, I think there's alo going way to go before they let Stone out just yet.
 

Grendel

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For the record Mr Stone is not a model citizen

he has had numerous prison sentences for violence

he on one occasion caused severe damage to a hapless individual in a robbery by smashing him over the head with a hammer

he likes stabbing people and stuck a knife in a friends stomach and when arrested tried to gauge out a police officers eye

Had 10 years fit violent armed robbery

He was frequently violent towards women and smashed a girlfriend around the head before punching and kicking her. She dropped charges against him as she was terrified for her life

before the Russell murders he’d tried to kill his parole officer and became violent to a nurse while being treated for his drug addiction

He confessed to a prior murder but was never cknvivted

Michael stone has been described by a judge as one of the most dangerous and evil men he’d ever met. Someone who of out in society will kill and inflict violence with no remorse

I’m not losing too much sleep over his incarceration
 

JAM See

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For the record Mr Stone is not a model citizen

he has had numerous prison sentences for violence

he on one occasion caused severe damage to a hapless individual in a robbery by smashing him over the head with a hammer

he likes stabbing people and stuck a knife in a friends stomach and when arrested tried to gauge out a police officers eye

Had 10 years fit violent armed robbery

He was frequently violent towards women and smashed a girlfriend around the head before punching and kicking her. She dropped charges against him as she was terrified for her life

before the Russell murders he’d tried to kill his parole officer and became violent to a nurse while being treated for his drug addiction

He confessed to a prior murder but was never cknvivted

Michael stone has been described by a judge as one of the most dangerous and evil men he’d ever met. Someone who of out in society will kill and inflict violence with no remorse

I’m not losing too much sleep over his incarceration
If a person is in prison for a crime they did not commit, that is a miscarriage of justice.
 

rob9872

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For the record Mr Stone is not a model citizen

he has had numerous prison sentences for violence

he on one occasion caused severe damage to a hapless individual in a robbery by smashing him over the head with a hammer

he likes stabbing people and stuck a knife in a friends stomach and when arrested tried to gauge out a police officers eye

Had 10 years fit violent armed robbery

He was frequently violent towards women and smashed a girlfriend around the head before punching and kicking her. She dropped charges against him as she was terrified for her life

before the Russell murders he’d tried to kill his parole officer and became violent to a nurse while being treated for his drug addiction

He confessed to a prior murder but was never cknvivted

Michael stone has been described by a judge as one of the most dangerous and evil men he’d ever met. Someone who of out in society will kill and inflict violence with no remorse

I’m not losing too much sleep over his incarceration
Hopefully they'll not believe this then or the fecker will get a pay out too.
 

rob9872

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If a person is in prison for a crime they did not commit, that is a miscarriage of justice.
You might be lawfully correct, but in cases like this I'm on the side of couldn't give a flying fuck as long as the actual perpetrator is also incarcerated which he is.
 

clint van damme

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Hopefully they'll not believe this then or the fecker will get a pay out too.

If he didn't commit the crime he shouldn't be in jail for it, simple as that.

If he's comitted a murder that he hasn't been prosecuted for the police should work on gathering evidence and securing a conviction.
 

rob9872

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If he didn't commit the crime he shouldn't be in jail for it, simple as that.

If he's comitted a murder that he hasn't been prosecuted for the police should work on gathering evidence and securing a conviction.
Yeah let's let him out to vomit another whilst they gather that evidence
 

JAM See

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You might be lawfully correct, but in cases like this I'm on the side of couldn't give a flying fuck as long as the actual perpetrator is also incarcerated which he is.
You couldn't give a flying fuck if if a non perpetrator is in prison, as long as a perpetrator is?

I suggest you reflect on your thoughts.

To recap...'It's okay for an innocent person to be in prison, as long as the real criminal is in chokey too'

What an odd person you are. The innocent can suffer, as long as the guilty are suffering too.
 

Grendel

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Hopefully they'll not believe this then or the fecker will get a pay out too.

he’s had half a million in legal aid to date
 

rob9872

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You couldn't give a flying fuck if if a non perpetrator is in prison, as long as a perpetrator is?

I suggest you reflect on your thoughts.

To recap...'It's okay for an innocent person to be in prison, as long as the real criminal is in chokey too'

What an odd person you are. The innocent can suffer, as long as the guilty are suffering too.
No you misunderstood my post. Stone is a scumbag as per Grendels list of crime. He should be locked up. I don't care what he's locked up for as long as he's off the streets. The innocent and being innocent of a particular crime are very different things.
 

clint van damme

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No you misunderstood my post. Stone is a scumbag as per Grendels list of crime. He should be locked up. I don't care what he's locked up for as long as he's off the streets. The innocent and being innocent of a particular crime are very different things.

But he should be locked up for something he did, not something he didn't do.
Locking people up for things they didn't do has cost the taxpayer a lot of money over the years, sound convictions based on good evidence is how it should work.
 

Grendel

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You don't believe in due process and the rule oflawthen, fairenough.

The rule of law sent him down and the jury didn’t even know his history - one hopes they re arrest him over the 1976 murder so he’s nit someone’s next door neighbour soon
 

rob9872

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But he should be locked up for something he did, not something he didn't do.
Locking people up for things they didn't do has cost the taxpayer a lot of money over the years, sound convictions based on good evidence is how it should work.
I'd love him to be locked up for the things he has done, but imo sentences are often too lenient. If he comes out and commits a serious crime, I'd hate to be the one to have to tell that family.
 

clint van damme

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I'd love him to be locked up for the things he has done, but imo sentences are often too lenient. If he comes out and commits a serious crime, I'd hate to be the one to have to tell that family.

The answer isn't to convict him for something he didn't do, that's a very dangerous path that certain.police forces have already been down and it didn't end well.
 

Grendel

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And that's fine, convict him of what he's done, no issue there.

The only times the public have been safe from Stone is when he’s not in the streets

He refuses to say his whereabouts that day. There was a brutal robbery in the Maidenhead area on that day. Stone has a liking of smacking oriole knee the head with a hammer repeatedly

If Mr Stone was released and moved in next door would be comfortable given the fact every time he has been released he has immediately again committed horrific violent acts against innocent people?
 
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The answer isn't to convict him for something he didn't do
Not, of course, that it's clear that he didn't do this one... yet. Wouldn't be the first time some nutter has claimed to commit a murder when they didn't, because they love the attention.

It's a wait and see here...
 

Johnnythespider

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For the record Mr Stone is not a model citizen

he has had numerous prison sentences for violence

he on one occasion caused severe damage to a hapless individual in a robbery by smashing him over the head with a hammer

he likes stabbing people and stuck a knife in a friends stomach and when arrested tried to gauge out a police officers eye

Had 10 years fit violent armed robbery

He was frequently violent towards women and smashed a girlfriend around the head before punching and kicking her. She dropped charges against him as she was terrified for her life

before the Russell murders he’d tried to kill his parole officer and became violent to a nurse while being treated for his drug addiction

He confessed to a prior murder but was never cknvivted

Michael stone has been described by a judge as one of the most dangerous and evil men he’d ever met. Someone who of out in society will kill and inflict violence with no remorse

I’m not losing too much sleep over his incarceration
Sounds like the police had a murder they couldn't solve and found a likely candidate to lock up for it, which if all the things you mention are true is fine, until you realise that means the real killer is still out there waiting to kill again. Not fine for Milly Dowlers family.
 

Johnnythespider

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You might be lawfully correct, but in cases like this I'm on the side of couldn't give a flying fuck as long as the actual perpetrator is also incarcerated which he is.

Not before he killed again
 

SBT

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For the record Mr Stone is not a model citizen

he has had numerous prison sentences for violence

he on one occasion caused severe damage to a hapless individual in a robbery by smashing him over the head with a hammer

he likes stabbing people and stuck a knife in a friends stomach and when arrested tried to gauge out a police officers eye

Had 10 years fit violent armed robbery

He was frequently violent towards women and smashed a girlfriend around the head before punching and kicking her. She dropped charges against him as she was terrified for her life

before the Russell murders he’d tried to kill his parole officer and became violent to a nurse while being treated for his drug addiction

He confessed to a prior murder but was never cknvivted

Michael stone has been described by a judge as one of the most dangerous and evil men he’d ever met. Someone who of out in society will kill and inflict violence with no remorse

I’m not losing too much sleep over his incarceration

Thank heavens for the resident forum expert and his Big Book of British Murders
 

clint van damme

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The only times the public have been safe from Stone is when he’s not in the streets

He refuses to say his whereabouts that day. There was a brutal robbery in the Maidenhead area on that day. Stone has a liking of smacking oriole knee the head with a hammer repeatedly

If Mr Stone was released and moved in next door would be comfortable given the fact every time he has been released he has immediately again committed horrific violent acts against innocent people?

I'm not comfortable with fitting people up for crimes they didn't commit.
If he's as bad as you say I would imagine convicting him for something he has done wouldn't be too difficult.
 

clint van damme

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Not, of course, that it's clear that he didn't do this one... yet. Wouldn't be the first time some nutter has claimed to commit a murder when they didn't, because they love the attention.

It's a wait and see here...

Yeah,you can't let him go just because Bellfield said he did it, there's also g way ro go on.this one, he may well be guilty
 

Grendel

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Not before he killed again

Michael Peterson has never been convicted of murder but has been in prison for almost his whole life since 1974 - every time he was released he committed acts of grotesque violence - he can’t operate in society

stone is the same a complete nut job who must never be allowed to breathe free air
 

JAM See

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No you misunderstood my post. Stone is a scumbag as per Grendels list of crime. He should be locked up. I don't care what he's locked up for as long as he's off the streets. The innocent and being innocent of a particular crime are very different things.
Oh dear.

Being innocent of a particular crime and being convicted of said crime is a bad thing.

That's why we have laws an all that important stuff.

Trial by @rob9872 and their opinion is not enough.
 

Grendel

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Oh dear.

Being innocent of a particular crime and being convicted of said crime is a bad thing.

That's why we have laws an all that important stuff.

Trial by @rob9872 and their opinion is not enough.

On release would you be happy if he moved in next door?

As for laws and important Stuff he was convicted twice by a jury who heard all the evidence
 

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