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Momentum and optimism... gone? (2 Viewers)

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italiahorse

italiahorse

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #106
Moff said:
Lots of people have disagreed with the OP's post, but have done it in a less confrontational manner.
You know and I know its not a board of nodding donkeys or dogs, but if you feel that way why bother posting?
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Sometimes I wonder.
I think I like the banter.
It's also a good way to get Wasps news with so many people monitoring them :)
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #107
italiahorse said:
Sometimes I wonder.
I think I like the banter.
It's also a good way to get Wasps news with so many people monitoring them :)
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You don't have any banter.

Are you going to reply to the points people have made to you, or not?
 
Old Warwickshire lad

Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #108
McNulty has gone,get over it. We did some great business EARLY just as everyone asked.
So lets give last seasons team and the new lads a chance before we go into meltdown.
We had no choice with the McNulty shit,he wanted gone so it was best for us he went.
I still think a striker will be coming in,so back the manager and ffs don’t start moaning till after Christmas :emoji_fingers_crossed:
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #109
We're missing a replacement for McNulty.

We otherwise have competition for places with senior backup for each position. There is a degree of experience in the team, especially in midfield. Been a bit unlucky with niggling injuries during pre-season but that isn't by design clearly.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #110
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmm, fifty more pages coming where SBT argues over what nods.
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But we can all agree that dogs can't look up
 
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Otis

Otis

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #111
skyblueelephant76 said:
You've just explained where we have strengthened - left back, centre mid and rightback. Add to that Andreu and Jones and that's half a team of better players that will be available. Get a replacement for McNulty and we've done some good business.
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Yup. Having Jones and Andreu back IS strengthening.

And we cannot judge the players we have brought in until we see them in action, but Sterling, Agogo and Brown should also hopefully strengthen us too.

That's half a team right there.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #112
I think the majority of players signed this summer are more fringe players. However, I don’t think that that is necessarily a bad thing as the players that got us promoted, I think, can do a good job this season. In games against Blackburn, Shrewsbury, Walsall and MK we played well and were the better team in all but the first match when we fielded a weakened team. I would much sooner he tweaked things than go for wholesale changes. Left back was a definite area for Improvement and that was done straight away. The change of formation is unexpected but now is the time to try out new things. The sale of McNulty is really the black cloud on the horizon I think. While there is no guarantee that he would have succeeded at a higher level, I think most of us felt that he would. His sale, which I agree is down to the player and not the club, plus the lack of goals in pre season, has dampened things down a bit. A replacement for McNulty plus positive performances against Derby and WBA will no doubt cause optimism levels to rise.
 
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italiahorse

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #113
Nick said:
You don't have any banter.

Are you going to reply to the points people have made to you, or not?
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I have. We need a new striker who can score consistently at this level as a priority and it seems we are waiting until everybody else has completed their business first (My first post). Hopefully Robins will prove me wrong.
How the youngsters perform in L1 and how the other players I don't really know perform in a Cov shirt I will need to reserve judgment until I see them play.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #114
Liquid Gold said:
But we can all agree that dogs can't look up
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So true.

Always makes me chuckle when my dog chases a squirrel until it runs up a tree, the dog then left just staring at the tree at the first point of squirrel contact with it, as if the squirrel has disappeared INTO the tree the second it has touched it.

I always point and try to show her, but she just focuses on that one point of contact.
 

Esoterica

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #115
Otis said:
So true.

Always makes me chuckle when my dog chases a squirrel until it runs up a tree, the dog then left just staring at the tree at the first point of squirrel contact with it, as if the squirrel has disappeared INTO the tree the second it has touched it.

I always point and try to show her, but she just focuses on that one point of contact.
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What flavour crisp tree is it?
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #116
italiahorse said:
I have. We need a new striker who can score consistently at this level as a priority and it seems we are waiting until everybody else has completed their business first (My first post). Hopefully Robins will prove me wrong.
How the youngsters perform in L1 and how the other players I don't really know perform in a Cov shirt I will need to reserve judgment until I see them play.
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No, you haven't replied to the points you originally made you are just moving the goalposts when you got corrected and contradicting yourself.

We seem to always get last pick when everybody else has finished.
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Now you have changed it to just being a striker after it was pointed out we have done most of our business before everybody else.

but in my mind we lack experience at this level
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Now you are saying you don't know after somebody listed all of our players and their experience.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #117
Esoterica said:
What flavour crisp tree is it?
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No idea, but as I am in the park to give her exercise, I can tell you the brand is Walkers.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #118
Liquid Gold said:
But we can all agree that dogs can't look up
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Yes they can. One of mine can actually sit facing one way and put her head right over to look at you upside down. FACT
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #119
Nick said:
Yes they can. One of mine can actually sit facing one way and put her head right over to look at you upside down. FACT
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Moff

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #120
italiahorse said:
Sometimes I wonder.
I think I like the banter.
It's also a good way to get Wasps news with so many people monitoring them
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I will keep you posted
 
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italiahorse

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #121
Nick said:
No, you haven't replied to the points you originally made you are just moving the goalposts when you got corrected and contradicting yourself.



Now you have changed it to just being a striker after it was pointed out we have done most of our business before everybody else.



Now you are saying you don't know after somebody listed all of our players and their experience.
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Just read my first post. I only mention McNulty replacement.
Nobody knows how last years players and the new players will perform in a Coventry shirt.
The L1 players coming in might give you a feeling that we should be alright but I'm reserving judgement.
You'd start an argument in an empty room.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #122
italiahorse said:
Just read my first post. I only mention McNulty replacement.
Nobody knows how last years players and the new players will perform in a Coventry shirt.
The L1 players coming in might give you a feeling that we should be alright but I'm reserving judgement.
You'd start an argument in an empty room.
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Funny that, multiple people said the same thing in reply to you.

We've had players chose to sign for us over Bolton and Charlton and that's just ones we know about, both completed fairly early in the window.
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We signed a number of players before they even returned from pre season both this summer and last
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What has that got to do with your completely bullshit claim that we always have the last pick, when we’ve done our business early the last two years?
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You said:

We seem to always get last pick when everybody else has finished.
Not sure if this is exactly the case but it just seems like it every year.
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Using the word ALWAYS implies it happens all of the time rather than just 1 player. How does that imply you are only talking about McNulty? (The McNulty we signed in May)

Nobody was talking about "if we will be alright" and "how they will perform" they were asking you about your experience comment, why are you backtracking and trying to move the goalposts again? You said we were lacking experience.

It looks like it is either you trying to get arguments or you genuinely don't have the intelligence to make points.
 
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ceetee

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #123
I remember the meltdown a few seasons ago when we were going to start the season with an unproven academy kid called Callum Wilson

We will not have over £1M in the bank from the McNulty sale. No teams at our level pay that sort of money up front

It's a team game - nobody knows how players will fit in. The best team isn't always the best player in each position.

I shall wait and see......
 
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capel & collindridge

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #124
italiahorse said:
It's becoming a board of nodding donkeys.
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But we're only talking here of those who have equine handles. Right?
 
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italiahorse

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #125
Nick said:
Funny that, multiple people said the same thing in reply to you.
You said:

Using the word ALWAYS implies it happens all of the time rather than just 1 player. How does that imply you are only talking about McNulty? (The McNulty we signed in May)

Nobody was talking about "if we will be alright" and "how they will perform" they were asking you about your experience comment, why are you backtracking and trying to move the goalposts again? You said we were lacking experience.
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The multiple people are welcome to their 'opinion'.
Look back at the discussions from previous years and you will find we always have a discussion on leaving it too late. 'Always' means previous years not every player.
I can only give an opinion at this moment of time. If people are attending pre season matches I value there opinion but I'm not.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #126
italiahorse said:
The multiple people are welcome to their 'opinion'.
Look back at the discussions from previous years and you will find we always have a discussion on leaving it too late. 'Always' means previous years not every player.
I can only give an opinion at this moment of time. If people are attending pre season matches I value there opinion but I'm not.
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You are still not getting it.... It isn't about "opinion". Dates we sign people are fact, players experience in a league is fact.

You said they aren't experienced, you were giving a list of players and their experience and were asked which lack experience. You are now trying to change it to how well they will perform.

Can you link to people saying this last year, if I remember people were saying how refreshing it was to have it all done early?

If you have no idea about what you are saying and have to try and squirm, backtrack and move the goalposts because you have no idea how to back up what you say. What's the point?
 

ovduk78

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #127
Nick said:
Yes they can. One of mine can actually sit facing one way and put her head right over to look at you upside down. FACT
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And if they can't how do they catch a ball that is thrown high in the air?
Back on the original topic did McNulty & Jones play well together last season? I only saw them together in the shocker at Accrington where Jones & Nazon never looked to pass to a team mate all game so McNulty didn't run for a ball that he wasn't going to get. When I saw us play later in the season when Jones was injured McNulty never stopped making runs and looked a much better player
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #128
You’d think the season had already started and transfer window closed judging by the apocalyptic reaction of some people.

We got a good deal for McNulty, every footballer has a price, they met that price and we had a player who wanted to go. It would be a lot easier for Robins to just go out and sign a striker at an inflated price. We did that when we signed Kevin Kyle, or Leon McKenzie — two weak signings. The job at hand is to find the right kind of striker to suit our setup and personnel. That requires patience, not a panic buy. It is frustrating that Pompey are messing us about and I’d be tempted to up the offer to force it through because the main priority is to replace McNulty.

We plan on bringing 2-3 players in by the end of the window, this is encouraging and it’s a case of us fans being patient with the processes of a transfer.
 
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luwalla

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #129
Guys... let it go
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #130
Mucca Mad Boys said:
You’d think the season had already started and transfer window closed judging by the apocalyptic reaction of some people.

We got a good deal for McNulty, every footballer has a price, they met that price and we had a player who wanted to go. It would be a lot easier for Robins to just go out and sign a striker at an inflated price. We did that when we signed Kevin Kyle, or Leon McKenzie — two weak signings. The job at hand is to find the right kind of striker to suit our setup and personnel. That requires patience, not a panic buy. It is frustrating that Pompey are messing us about and I’d be tempted to up the offer to force it through because the main priority is to replace McNulty.

We plan on bringing 2-3 players in by the end of the window, this is encouraging and it’s a case of us fans being patient with the processes of a transfer.
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I think the dissatisfaction is the worry coming from the Mowbray season. I agree that we’ll most likely be sorted and actually have a squad just need that one extra player.
 

capel & collindridge

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #131
Even with that one extra player, it won't wipe out the shame of our U23s losing 2-1 last night to Tamworth.

SHFWF
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #132
Last game in league 1 two seasons ago was (compared with current squad and guessing starting 11):

Burge (Burge)
Willis (Sterling)
Turnbull (Willis)
DKE (Hyam)
Camwell (Brown)

Lameiras (Bayliss)
Bigirimana (Doyle)
Gadzhev (Ogogo)
Jones (Jones)

Tudgay (JCH)
Thomas (Biamou)

I'd say that there is not one position there we are now weaker (ignoring Thomas and Biamou as there is some formation differences!)

If you go back 3 seasons to when we finished 8th there is not 1 player the same and is a very different squad but i wouldn't say it was necessarily better than our current squad overall.

RCC

Vincelot
Stephens
Harries
Hunt

Fleck
Rose
Bigirimana

Lameiras
Armstrong
Thomas

Sounds like i'm more confident of a good season than most!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #133
Personally I’m fairly optimistic ahead of next season. We’ve made some good signings, this squad is better than the one relegated, Tony Andrews return will be as good as a new signing given he only appeared in a handful of games before his injury last season and there’s still plenty of time to make some more signings yet. We didn’t sign Andrews until the second week of August last season so there’s still some decent players available late doors so I’m not panicking yet on a MM replacement.

Not going to get carried away and suggest that we could be challenging for automatics all season but I’m not expecting relegation or a relegation battle. I fancy us for mid table to challenging for a playoff and frankly I think that should be enough for anyone at this moment in time.
 

Gibbo

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #134
Assuming 3-5-2 doesn't bugger us about, the defence should be as solid as last year - bearing in mind Brown and Ogogo will strengthen it. That is more than half the battle.
People might also remember that McNulty barely scored for the first half of the season, and we were still top 6
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #135
So maybe dogs can look up, but there's no way that rifle's real.
 

baldy

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #136
The Lurker said:
After the buzz from last season and the short break, I was hoping the momentum from Wembley would carry forward but due to lack of players coming in despite the Maddison and McNulty money it seems many fans are pissed off with sisu again. If we start slowly I can see the sisu out chants starting again.
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Yes you're right to be honest....as well as the 10 players already bought in during the close season,I want another eleventeen billion to add to the squad too...Robins has shown that he's blatantly not the man to take us forward due to the poor results in meaningless pre-season friendlies so far
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #137
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Otis said:
So true.

Always makes me chuckle when my dog chases a squirrel until it runs up a tree, the dog then left just staring at the tree at the first point of squirrel contact with it, as if the squirrel has disappeared INTO the tree the second it has touched it.

I always point and try to show her, but she just focuses on that one point of contact.
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You obviously haven't got a Patterdale Terrier, she looks up, then gets on her hind legs and starts barking at the squirrel. Given the opportunity she will start climbing the tree.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #138
It will be a tough season but I think we can do okay. I think Ponticelli will come of age, Allassani will improve as it goes on and Andreu is going to be really good. I will be happy if we finish 10th or 12. If we are flirting with the play offs come end of the season that would be a bonus.

So quietly confident and I hope JCH proves my reservations to be incorrect, as I believe there is potentially a good player in there.
 

GaryJones

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #139
Reminds me of a true story - we always take our dog out to the parks in Leamington and we have great fun pointing at squirrels and saying "Maddox Squirrel Squirrel!!" he is a Greyhound and never ever catches them as he generally growls right from the off and this announces his arrival thus the Squirrel scarpers up the tree and looks down thinking "Twat Dog".
We were walking through the (un-named) park last Summer on a Sunday and as we approached the kiddies area with roundabouts and swings we did our usual "Maddox Squirrel Squirrel" off he went at top speed but this time didn't growl at all - the Squirrel looked left then right then legged it to the nearest tree right in the middle of the play area.
For some reason only known to the Squirrel it got to the sanctuary of the tree then changed its mind and ran back at speed toward the dog!
All this is being watched by parents (all with arms folded) and kids (with mouths open) and in a split second our dog has this squirrel in its mouth and tosses it into the air like a Great White Shark attacking a Seal.
We are now in panic mode and retrieve the dog and my wife picks up the stunned (almost dead) squirrel and in a comedy moment offers the Squirrel to a tree saying "its ok its ok just stunned that's all" and it just slides down to the ground.
We now refer to this moment as Squirrel-Gate.
We don't say "Squirrel Squirrel" when we walk the dog any more!
 
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The Great Eastern

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  • Jul 25, 2018
  • #140
Hobo said:
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You obviously haven't got a Patterdale Terrier, she looks up, then gets on her hind legs and starts barking at the squirrel. Given the opportunity she will start climbing the tree.
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I sometimes look after my friends Patterjack (Patterdale & Jack Russel cross) and he does exactly the same. Never catches one as he makes a high pitched excited squealing sound which fully alerts any wildlife nearby. Dumb fuck........
 
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