Do you mean the "Blind Hatred" of something that has ripped the heart out of every CCFC fan, and couldn't give a Fat One about the Club
The very sameDo you mean the "Deluded Fool" that, even now, believes SISU will build a Stadium?
But the fact remains that CCC have endangered the future of our club by selling to wasps. Yes SISU may have had it coming but they have damaged the club in their eagerness to fuck up SISU and shown scant regard for it's plight beyond SISU or the tradition and heritage of our club in the city.
So are you saying that Sisu haven't endangered the life of our football club too?
But Samo, It isn't CCC selling away our heritage(Ryton) it's SISU.
But Samo, It isn't CCC selling away our heritage(Ryton) it's SISU.
Yes. Hatred is fine. Blind Hatred is stuoid4.
The very same
Very true. but they were responsible for "selling away" the Ricoh.
Everyone knows SISU are shit owners and every can't wait to get rid of them. But what frustrates a lot of people is when every tiny thing that goes wrong is pinned on the owners, when actually these things are not entirely their fault.I think you're mixing up "Blind Hatred" with "Blind Faith"... "Blind Hatred" usually comes about by firstly "Seeing" and then getting so wound up it sends one into a blind rage/hatred..... "Blind Faith" is what happens with a few on here, ie- RFC when they "See" but just let it all happen anyway.
Everyone knows SISU are shit owners and every can't wait to get rid of them. But what frustrates a lot of people is when every tiny thing that goes wrong is pinned on the owners, when actually these things are not entirely their fault.
Recognising that not absolutely everything is 100% their fault (Mowbray making shit signings with a competitive budget, Mowbray making daft substitutions, Wasps being arseholes, the council being arseholes), is not the same as people defending SISU are being an "apologist" or whatever the hell the latest daft label is.
If you cannot see that it is not the same thing, than you are a waste of time arguing because you obviously don't have the intellect to participate in a proper debate.
I think just about every forum member sees the bigger picture but some seem to blame CCC/ACL for the downright ineptitude of SISU to do at least one thing right. Of course CCC/ACL are culpable to an extent, but f**k me some need to wake up and see who, by a vast distance are the major protagonists in all this shitfest!
You've no need to respect my opinion SBK, no other bugger does. The point is that I'm not convinced that selling the training ground per se is a terrible idea. I think it's the fact that SISU are doing it that bugs people. If Wasps hadn't bought up the Higgs centre then there was at least a half-feasible idea for moving the whole shebang there, which in fairness was mooted prior to the deal going through.
The brutal fact, for me, is that if Wasps hadn't been allowed to move up here and purchase the Ricoh we'd be in a better position all round and might not even be talking about this - whether our crappy owners were still with us or not.
Apologies for dragging Wasps into it again, I don't doubt that everyone here tires of my bitterness about it. However to my eyes the deals between Wasps, the Council and the Higgs will do far worse damage to the club than anything that SISU could ever do to us - including (if or when it comes to it) another insolvency. I'll try to shut up about it now...
Spot on. My feelings exactly. Wasps will do more damage to CCFC than SISU ever will.
Absolutely the crux of it. Not a whisper with Higgs, not a whisper when Wasps grabbed the Ricoh, because it buggered SISU. And the club, of course, but hey, thems the breaks. As long as SISU get it, who cares?
If that happens it will be because SISU are a willing victim. SISU already have done more damage to CCFC than all the others combined and they aren't finished yet.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing ain't it. If only.... If only... If only....... If only SISU had bought into the Ricoh on the start of their tenure... If only SISU had bought into the Ricoh when it was offered some 2-3 years into their tenure... If only SISU had made a FIRM OFFER instead of that "Lip Service" when Wasps had made their firm, and without any proviso's offer. things would be all fantastic today... *Shakes**Shivers**Snaps out of daydream*
TBF I don't care a fig about SISU's business woes, if they didn't understand the true costs then they should never have got involved.
Everyone's had an impact, and I'm sure on the CCC and ACL fans forums they must be fuming. But this is a CCFC forum, we discuss CCFC.
It's the constant whatabbouttery and acting as if Sisu are just poor dears being buffeted around by these massive forces, rather than the sole owners of our club and the people responsible for its outcomes.
Sounds like a teenager that hasn't done his homework: everyone's fault but the person responsible for it.
Don't know about whataboutery, but there's a sodding huge straw man here. I find it incredible that posters who are otherwise quite intelligent struggle to spot it. There is no one on this board who is pro SISU.
It's completely bloody idiotic to suggest there is. Pointing out the obvious rubbish spouted by the council is not somehow pro-SISU. Never mind teenagers, that's the kind of logical flaw that a eight-year old could spot.
And that, you see, is where we disagree. SISU have screwed the club over royally, but selling the Ricoh to Wasps has finished us. The academy and the Ryton are trivial issues by comparison.
You can bitch all you'd like about SISU being crap owners, and they are, but one day they will go. Wasps have got a 250-year lease on the only decent football stadium in the city, and guess what, they need the revenue from it in order to keep their £35m-in-debt show on the road. The best we can hope for now, the absolute best, is some sort of rent deal and bugger all access to the other revenues - and there are idiots here who bought the line from the Council that it wouldn't hurt the club. Amazing.
Very true. but they were responsible for "selling away" the Ricoh.
What is wrong with you? What are my excuses? When did I say anything about the rent situation? When did we talk about due diligence?Cheeky fucker... Not making "Due Dilligence" when taking charge of a business shows lack of intelligence(Who was that?) I don't give a Frog's fat arse about all your excuses Rent should have been top of SISU's list, but no, the greedy fuckers cba with sensible business acumen. About the brains of an amoeba... which brings me back to you!
PS It shows when somebody doesn't read eh?... Take a look at my post #176 Then come back here and tell me I can't differentiate.
Sisu moving us to Northampton started the ball rolling re: wasps coming to play. If we didn't move from the Ricoh wasps wouldn't be here now.
Why do people like you talk about 'Budget' ?? You don't know anymore about how that 'budget' is being passed down than the next man ! SISU have lied about almost everything for 4 years, they're destructive club killing cunts just trying for a soft landing. There will be a handful of dick heads still defending them to the last and thousands of loyal City fans holding their head in their hands soon saying we tried to warn you, some of us right from 2007 !Everyone knows SISU are shit owners and every can't wait to get rid of them. But what frustrates a lot of people is when every tiny thing that goes wrong is pinned on the owners, when actually these things are not entirely their fault.
Recognising that not absolutely everything is 100% their fault (Mowbray making shit signings with a competitive budget, Mowbray making daft substitutions, Wasps being arseholes, the council being arseholes), is not the same as people defending SISU are being an "apologist" or whatever the hell the latest daft label is.
If you cannot see that it is not the same thing, than you are a waste of time arguing because you obviously don't have the intellect to participate in a proper debate.
Not excusing Northampton ?? Really, I bet you did at some point if I look back at posting records ?Totally disagree. CCC would have NEVER sold to SISU. "Hell will freeze over", remember. Wasps would have been on the scene regardless and The Council would have done exactly the same thng.
Not excusing the Northampton move. Shocking decision.
One point. Remember Lucas saying that Wasps would not have a detrimental affect on the football club. What do you reckon about that?
Why do people like you talk about 'Budget' ?? You don't know anymore about how that 'budget' is being passed down than the next man ! SISU have lied about almost everything for 4 years, they're destructive club killing cunts just trying for a soft landing. There will be a handful of dick heads still defending them to the last and thousands of loyal City fans holding their head in their hands soon saying we tried to warn you, some of us right from 2007 !
Not excusing Northampton ?? Really, I bet you did at some point if I look back at posting records ?
Look I can't really be bothered to start trawling back like some would but I think you know you defended that at times on here.What because i went to Sixfields?
I heard a few words from someone close to my family that suggests a big shock coming the way of CCFC fans next week, now I don't know details but do wonder but I'm told it's going to be properly shite !
To be honest i don't know what can be "worse" than being in our current situation.
Me neither I'm racking my brains but I think something is going to be announced one way or another.
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