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[oldfiver]

But A) The club hasn't applied to have any covenant changed or applied for planning permission. B) Commercially Sensitive information? Isn't the covenant a matter of public record available to anyone at request to the LRO? C) If the club ever did look to change the covenant (no indication as yet that they're even considering it) is the final decision CCC's? Wouldn't that be central government as presumably any change of use and therefore covenant is a planning matter?

No covenant needs to be changed see #482 - CCC reported it wanted to insert a covenant and then found it could not

 

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[oldfiver]

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.

Where have I slagged you off?
I have actually said you were MISLED !!
If you see something that is totally wrong would you let that go without correcting it?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Where have I slagged you off?
I have actually said you were MISLED !!
If you see something that is totally wrong would you let that go without correcting it?

Where have I said you?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yup, just like work.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Yup, just like work.

STFU and put some clothes on! You'll get Nick done for pornography.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I've already said i've shown one account of goings on at the Butts. I really couldn't give a f**k what anyone believes I stated (Don't shoot the messenger for the fifth time) but it seems you're all good at oneupmanship eh

You're doing your best

 

[oldfiver]

Where have I said you?

In red - twice
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Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.

 

[Grendel]

The non footballing clause was a sub clause introduced

Now stop bickering !

Coventry City Council have responded to a leaked email saying that it was attempting to block Coventry City from playing at the Butts Park Arena.

According to the Coventry Telegraph's Simon Gilbert, "Coventry City Council can't block change in Butts Park Arena lease to allow Coventry City to ground share with Coventry Rugby Club but changes in rent between leases would have to be approved by councillors"

A leaked email to the rugby club in January 2016, said the council wanted a new clause inserted which would specifically prevent “professional association football or training associated therewith” in exchange for making other changes to the sub-lease.

The Coventry Telegraph asked Nigel Clews, assistant director of property and asset management at Coventry City Council, why they had tried to insert the clause at that time and he said: “No, it doesn’t look good. But we were trying to flush out details.

Spot on. A fishing expedition according to the "bend over backwards" council.

 

[Grendel]

In red - twice
↑
Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.

Yep they were caught with their pants down but oddly certain posters on here don't even see it.

 

[Grendel]

You're doing your best

He's made a twat of himself and even UKIP Tony, despite exchanging mutual likes on this thread has deserted him to his inevitable shafting.

 

[Captain Dart]

This enough?.... Mr Millerchip, a former Coventry Rugby Club player, donated thousands of pounds to the club when the outfit was struggling financially. He currently owns Coventry Rugby Properties LLP, which owns the 125-year lease from Coventry City Council for the Butts Park Arena site. That lease contains restrictions which mean the site can only currently be used by a rugby club.

Does this mean the lease can only be held by a rugby club without imposing a ban on other sports/activities.

Other events take place there, certainly the CAMRA Beer festival for around the last 10 years and I see a Comedy Club an upcoming Fireworks display .

Coventry United are not a Pro outfit Nick.

Semi-pro, they pay some players appearance fees.
Sums of £200/match have been mentioned.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

In red - twice
↑
Who said it was?

I have posted that answer several times over several threads but it continues to be ignored
Some people do not like the idea the Council were caught lying - which is what it was

And I've said I couldn't give a f**k who is right or wrong, they're all as bad as one another. simple as that. It's all about point scoring on here f**k all to do with debates just slag off someone you don't like! or has a different view to you.

That was not a go at you, it was a generalisation. Or is there anyone else that did a Nick, Oldfiver, and saw it as him personally?

 

[Captain Dart]

http://www.coventry.gov.uk/downloads/file/9287/20105594

Dear

Freedom of Information Act 2000

Thank you for requesting information about Coventry RFC’s lease of The Butts which the
Council received on 19th April 2013. Your request has been considered under the
Freedom of Information Act 2000 ("The Act").

You have requested the following information:

I would like a copy of Coventry RFC’s lease for its ground at The Butts and any
associated letters from the club’s officers. If the club was to move to The Ricoh, can you
please advise on what planning permission would be available for that site? Should the
site not be used for rugby football in the future, does this mean that the facilities would
revert to Mr Keith Fairbrother who gave them to the club free of charge?

Following careful consideration, the information you requested concerning details of
Coventry RFC’s lease of The Butts falls under the exemption(s) in Section 21 of the Act,
which relates to 'information reasonably accessible to the applicant by other means'.
The exemption applies as the information regarding leases and supporting material is
publicly accessible at the Land Registry.

Please visit the Land Registry website at www.landregistry.gov.uk or contact the Land
Registry customer support team on 0844892111. The lease in this case was dated 21
January 2003 between the City of Coventry Council and Butts Park Venture Ltd.

In respect of your query about planning applications, more details are available via the
Council's Planning Portal, located at:

http://www.coventry.gov.uk/info/200074/planning

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Does this mean the lease can only be held by a rugby club without imposing a ban on other sports/activities.

Other events take place there, certainly the CAMRA Beer festival for around the last 10 years and I see a Comedy Club an upcoming Fireworks display .


Semi-pro, they pay some players appearance fees.
Sums of £200/match have been mentioned.

I wouldn't have a clue mate I only "Put it out there"
Most will be semi-Pro but they won't be getting appearance money but expenses is what it will be termed as, but possibly changed from when I was playing.

 

[skybluetony176]

That discussions were going on between CRFC and CCFC at all was something that was commercially sensitive.

Someone should have told Les Read. He's the one that broke the story wasn't it?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

He's made a twat of himself and even UKIP Tony, despite exchanging mutual likes on this thread has deserted him to his inevitable shafting.

Have I really? Let me ask... Who made a twat of themself by passing off estimations as a fact?

 

[torchomatic]

Someone should have told Les Read. He's the one that broke the story wasn't it?

Oh it was him now. I thought Gilbert tried to claim that. He seemed pretty sure of himself.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Yep they were caught with their pants down but oddly certain posters on here don't even see it.

Come on Grenduffy, tell us what it was like when you got caught with your pants down in "Estimation/factsgate"?

 

[oldfiver]

That was not a go at you, it was a generalisation. Or is there anyone else that did a Nick, Oldfiver, and saw it as him personally?

I think a direct reply to my post addressed to me with the word "you" used twice is a bit of a give away
I accept your misuse of the word "you" and have moved on

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I think a direct reply to my post addressed to me with the word "you" used twice is a bit of a give away
I accept your misuse of the word "you" and have moved on

Very Gracious of you.. but I still say you knew exactly what I was saying.

 

[oldfiver]

I wouldn't have a clue mate I only "Put it out there"
Most will be semi-Pro but they won't be getting appearance money but expenses is what it will be termed as, but possibly changed from when I was playing.

All the first team squad are salaried

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh it was him now. I thought Gilbert tried to claim that. He seemed pretty sure of himself.

Sorry. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? Only you seem to be doing both.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

All the first team squad are salaried

By that post I take it you are privvy to the inner sanctum of Cov Utd then.

 

[Grendel]

SBK and UKIP Tony - the football forums equivalent to Les Dennis and Dustin Gee as comedy geniuses.

 

[Grendel]

Have I really? Let me ask... Who made a twat of themself by passing off estimations as a fact?

I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.

Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?

Because G would vote for Trump.
I've heard they use the same Barber

 

[Grendel]

Just one question why do you keep up with this ukip thing?

Merely as there are two Tony's - one a legal eagle and the other a ukip supporter - I am merely differentiating between the two to avoid confusion.

 

[martcov]

Merely as there are two Tony's - one a legal eagle and the other a ukip supporter - I am merely differentiating between the two to avoid confusion.

Of course you do....... and no doubt you always call the other one 'legal eagle Tony'.

 

[Captain Dart]

Aren't we all?

Nope, I'm not a brain dead PC slacker am I?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Nope, I'm not a brain dead PC slacker am I?

Well...

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I never did. It was a use of a football website to analyse transfer fees. You said you'd "heard" Westwood was transferred for £250,000 and the website showed or believed £700,000 when analysing the accounts. This also agreed with the press versions at the time. I never used the words "estimated facts" - you went on a typical Alf garnet rant and we all laughed at you - ukip Tony is trying to save you but that's like asking for football lessons off graham withey - you are drowning.

LMFAO... You've got to be a sociopath pal. You admitted it on this forum. We all saw it. You said "I believe the website "Estimations" because they are more "Fact" than your "Reported to be" from the newspapers. Hahahaha. I'll find it and show you what a arsehole you really are hahaha.

 

[Grendel]

LMFAO... You've got to be a sociopath pal. You admitted it on this forum. We all saw it. You said "I believe the website "Estimations" because they are more "Fact" than your "Reported to be" from the newspapers. Hahahaha. I'll find it and show you what a arsehole you really are hahaha.

Please do

 

[hill83]

I've got a link to the thread in question if anyone is bothered.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I've got a link to the thread in question if anyone is bothered.

Yes please mate