lordy_87
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I bloody hope not, football grounds with athletics tracks are the worst.
I bloody hope not, football grounds with athletics tracks are the worst.I'm interested to know if it'll be a multi venue event, ie, will it have an athletics track.
Yeah I get it Shmmmeee but what was the fit out cost on top, did that include all the land and prperation of? Plus it's just 21k capacity and it was some years ago. Remember I'm talking about today/ in a few years from now and 30/35k capacity. If you could build a nice stadium right down to complete fit out, ready to go with a 30k capacity for under 75m for example = I'd snap your hand off. Remember also we need a proper stadium becuase we are in a league playing 'proper' football now! lol
We don’t and we don’t have the money to pay for it. Let’s be realistic here.I'm not sure we need 30k capacity personally.
I'm interested to know if it'll be a multi venue event, ie, will it have an athletics track.
We don’t and we don’t have the money to pay for it. Let’s be realistic here.
Completely irrelevant as they didn’t build it from scratch but no and they are now struggling financially.Did WASPS have a need for £32000 or have any money to buy a stadium ?
True. However the backing of the local council was a massive reason the whole concept got going and became such a success. I used the word problem in respect of that council support we appear to be lacking at CCFC!Why is that a problem? We’re apparently getting a land gift and a partnership here too.
Completely irrelevant as they didn’t build it from scratch but no and they are now struggling financially.
This is exactly my point.Following your logic it will make sense to build afresh to a size and specification that meets requirements and affordable
And, of course new and not mired with several million pounds of maintenance and upgrade costs
This is exactly my point.
The size needs to be suitable to our current standing AND sensibly financed. There’s no point saying we’d like 30k plus on the off chance we make it to the prem. Even if we did want to do the debt incurred will hold us back and we could end up with another Ricoh situation.
If we want a stadium of our own it has to be one we can finance sustainably.
We are homeless because we couldn’t afford to build the Ricoh. Let’s not make the same mistake again.
True. However the backing of the local council was a massive reason the whole concept got going and became such a success. I used the word problem in respect of that council support we appear to be lacking at CCFC!
We are homeless because of decisions made by past Owners and Directors being in cahoots with the Council !
Yeah. That decision being to ask the council to fund the Ricoh as we couldn’t afford to build it...We are homeless because of decisions made by past Owners and Directors being in cahoots with the Council !
I bloody hope not, football grounds with athletics tracks are the worst.
They must want something out of it. I’d hope a track in the stadium isn’t part of it but as I’ve said multiple times we’re not in a position to be picky.Exactly mate, it'll be far worse then the Ricoh 'expierence'.
I have a feeling the uni will want it, so they can start doing athletics meetings there.
That’s not really true now is it?
We may have felt we couldn’t continue, but the decision to do it without anywhere to go was very much ours.
Sisu took six years to break the lease, and have had six more to sort a replacement.
I was referring to Highfield Road move - showing my age here !
I was not clear and you too quick to defend!
They must want something out of it. I’d hope a track in the stadium isn’t part of it but as I’ve said multiple times we’re not in a position to be picky.
Yeah let’s hope that’s the case.The club say they will own the stadium and be responsible for all operations TBF. It could be a simple land deal for the stadium itself and the partnership is more the sports science/football management/green tech showcase stuff.
The club say they will own the stadium and be responsible for all operations TBF. It could be a simple land deal for the stadium itself and the partnership is more the sports science/football management/green tech showcase stuff.
Or the decision of the council to fund the last part of the Tesco deal, then turn around and claim it would be state aid if CCC then helped CCFC get back on it's feet by following through on their end of the bargain. Councillors at the time must have had dollar signs in front of their eyes.Yeah. That decision being to ask the council to fund the Ricoh as we couldn’t afford to build it...
Black lives matter, because all lives should matter, especially those of our Black players.Black seats matter.
I mean IMO the whole “CCC aren’t helping” is baseless, but I get that’s a fruitless argument on here. But isn’t the whole point that this is Warwick not Coventry council?
Anyway As NW pointed out, other clubs have built grounds despite objections from hostile councils in shorter time.
The example NW and myself discussed was Brighton. Where the planning permission was submitted to a council supportive of their plans. It was an adjacent local authority that opposed the stadium.
In that scenario, had the planning permission been made to Lewes Council, there wouldn’t be a Falmer stadium for Brighton.
Besides, the project took 13 years to completion, so we’ve got another 6-7 years to see if we can beat it! Slight despairing tone there.
A challenge to yourself and @Deleted member 5849
Is there an example out there where a football club has managed to obtain planning permission from a hostile local authority in the UK?
Common sense dictates that the CCC would certainly not want to build another multi-purpose stadium in their jurisdiction.
The Butts could increase to 10,000-15,000 in the future, and you have the RICOH. Assuming the club (CCFC) and council are on good terms, it doesn’t make sense for them!
anyone know a Covnetry "Tony Bloom"? The other major difference in the scearioThe example NW and myself discussed was Brighton. Where the planning permission was submitted to a council supportive of their plans. It was an adjacent local authority that opposed the stadium.
In that scenario, had the planning permission been made to Lewes Council, there wouldn’t be a Falmer stadium for Brighton.
Besides, the project took 13 years to completion, so we’ve got another 6-7 years to see if we can beat it! Slight despairing tone there.
A challenge to yourself and @Deleted member 5849
Is there an example out there where a football club has managed to obtain planning permission from a hostile local authority in the UK?
Common sense dictates that the CCC would certainly not want to build another multi-purpose stadium in their jurisdiction.
The Butts could increase to 10,000-15,000 in the future, and you have the RICOH. Assuming the club (CCFC) and council are on good terms, it doesn’t make sense for them!
Brighton. The local authority objected. You can go for the ah but it's different all you like. it's different by being in brighton (or Lewes) not Coventry.Is there an example out there where a football club has managed to obtain planning permission from a hostile local authority in the UK?
Les Reid said:But Coventry City Council’s planning committee, as with all district councils in Warwickshire, are “quasi-judicial” bodies – meaning councillors are legally obliged to vote based on “material planning considerations”.
Coventry City bosses are pinning their hopes on winning planning permission at appeal or at a public inquiry if they cannot get their plans through any local council’s planning committee.
The example NW and myself discussed was Brighton. Where the planning permission was submitted to a council supportive of their plans. It was an adjacent local authority that opposed the stadium.
In that scenario, had the planning permission been made to Lewes Council, there wouldn’t be a Falmer stadium for Brighton.
Besides, the project took 13 years to completion, so we’ve got another 6-7 years to see if we can beat it! Slight despairing tone there.
A challenge to yourself and @Deleted member 5849
Is there an example out there where a football club has managed to obtain planning permission from a hostile local authority in the UK?
Common sense dictates that the CCC would certainly not want to build another multi-purpose stadium in their jurisdiction.
The Butts could increase to 10,000-15,000 in the future, and you have the RICOH. Assuming the club (CCFC) and council are on good terms, it doesn’t make sense for them!
There are plenty of areas with more than one stadium. Think the worry of multiple venues in one medium city is the least of our issues tbh.
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