Why are we a League One club? SISU are to blame for that.It depends what we are blaming for.
Academy, Ricoh etc or the tactics?
What people don't seem to get is that we are a league 1 club! It is all well and good bleating about not being able to sign amazing players, how many league 1 teams are signing these big name players?
The bloke who absolutely hammered our defence last night was a freebie from Shrewsbury, his replacement who has scored 5 in 7 was a freebie from Oldham. They had both been brought in with a clear job to do, to play to their system. The league's top scorer is a bloke who was on a free from Bradford.
Why can't you accept he is just being honest and honourable when he says he wouldn't take money owed he would rather see it stay with the club who haven't got a lot of money for them to reinvest?
Speculation...something this forum is particularly good at...Will this be officially announced today?
Look don't want to get into a ding dong with you, us fans need to stick together. Yes, I agree with all of the positives top 8 finish. But thats gone now, you can only judge on the here and now, even mowbray said it isn't good enough. And 2016 and this season hasn't been good enough, and a lot of that is down to mowbray.You forgot to add top 8 finish on only full season
Kinda like when you didn't count wins last season lol
Speculation...something this forum is particularly good at...
So were we. 2 or 3 players not billionaire money just solid pro`s at this level.
We got Hunt and Henderson.
I agree with you to a point. It feels almost like a lost cause. I can't see any other manager doing anything better than the previous 9. So keeping Mowbray would be just a good as getting anyone else. But getting a new manager is always tempting for any board or fans in the situation. This is what football is all about dreaming of what might be.Well glad to see those on here that were bleating got what they wished for.
As evo and others have said changing the manager isnt the quick fix answer to this mess. I will remind one or two of you in 12 months time when you are moaning about the new poor bastard who believed the sisu bullshit and came here.
12 managers in 9 years under these clowns doesnt lie.
Rip ccfc
Think this is a truly sad day for CCFC.
Last year top, today rock bottom. In between massive upheaval on the playing staff, largely due to not having the sufficient budget to either retain or recruit the identified targets.
Losing TM will sate a few of the SISU zealots as they try to get us to look the other way and we will all be distracted for a while but CCFC are losing a very capable manager.
The only reason we may attract a new manager is that taking us on is a "free hit" succeed and you are a genius, fail and no-one could expect anything else with that upheaval and the truly sorry saga of the SISU years.
Losing TM will sate a few of the SISU zealots
I think it is the loan culture we have adopted in more recent times that is the main problem. How can you realistically build an effective squad knowing that your staff turnover is going to be so high. Can't develop a sustainable coherent team culture, work ethic or strategic plan & change it again every 4-6 months imoThat's the issue, were the identified targets correct?
If he was capable, we wouldn't be rock bottom surely?
Look don't want to get into a ding dong with you, us fans need to stick together. Yes, I agree with all of the positives top 8 finish. But thats gone now, you can only judge on the here and now, even mowbray said it isn't good enough. And 2016 and this season hasn't been good enough, and a lot of that is down to mowbray.
Not sure what your second relates to.
I'm sad its ending this way, I like him as a person.
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Can people just get the above into their think neanderthal heads please and I'll be less of an angry person I promiseIt depends what we are blaming for.
Academy, Ricoh etc or the tactics?
What people don't seem to get is that we are a league 1 club! It is all well and good bleating about not being able to sign amazing players, how many league 1 teams are signing these big name players?
The bloke who absolutely hammered our defence last night was a freebie from Shrewsbury, his replacement who has scored 5 in 7 was a freebie from Oldham. They had both been brought in with a clear job to do, to play to their system. The league's top scorer is a bloke who was on a free from Bradford.
Its getting like real politics on here, saying we are in the shit because of the previous government. Look at Leicester, they had issues like ours sunk into administration and last year they won the fucking Premier League!
Maybe because they had owners who run a football team not squabble with every one.
TM put together a team last year consisting of:
Armstrong
Vincelot
Cole
Fleck
Maddison
Johnson
Murphy
At Christmas we were in a great position but the young players started to burn out and the inevitable injuries hit.
The squad needed strengthening in January, SISU received at least £2 million for Maddison, if a fraction of that had been released to Mowbray in the window we would have we would have gone up as champions.
Some one said a lot of our fans are deluded, he was spot on with that, nothing will change under our current owners regardless of who is manager.
I agree in some ways...what worries me is that thinking back to our last season in the Premiership - lots of pundits & supporters of other teams were very reassuring right up to the last few weeks of the season that we were playing some good football or were too good to go down - but we didNo ding dong
I just think signs of positivity are there. Just need a lil bit more time. Few wins on trot and climb table in no time. It's only September. I hope tm stays.
Give him another full season and see where we finish. Won't be anywhere near relegation zone I assure you
The SISU fans are out there somewhere, conspiring with Bigfoot and Nessie as part of the Illuminati. They definitely exist and are apparently in abundance here.
Cole....quality if fit. He wasn't. That is why he came to us. Not much quality in the rest of them. If some of the Maddison money was given to him better quality players couldhave been brought in to keep up with the promotion push. It didn't. The rest is history.We then got Jones and Gadzev just after which would be strange if there was no money.
TM thought he was getting solid pros in didn't he?
In the Winter window he got:
Martin Lorentzson
Andy Rose
Peter Ramage
Joe Cole
Stephen Hunt
Darius Henderson
Kyle Spence
Bilal Sayoud
Vladimir Gadzhev
Then loans:
Jack Stephens
Baily Cargill
Jodi Jones
Hilarious- nothing to do with the 200 million pumped into the club.Leicester is a good example. Presumably they only won the premier league last season because of the incompetence of the previous owners. It's the same principle at the end of the day for blaming 9 years *9 YEARS* of utter failure of the current owners on previous owners. 9 fucking years for crying out loud. Serious reality check needed by some members of this forum.
Nessie's more likely to be legit than whoever's playing that character!You left out RFC
Cole....quality if fit. He wasn't. That is why he came to us. Not much quality in the rest of them. If some of the Maddison money was given to him better quality players couldhave been brought in to keep up with the promotion push. It didn't. The rest is history.
Bet TM and MV end up at derby county, he has defenitly got something up his sleeve.
Hilarious- nothing to do with the 200 million pumped into the club.
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