idm1975
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And while were at it when did mowbray decide that about rose and how many games you been too 1 or 2 homes i bet!
And while were at it when did mowbray decide that about rose and how many games you been too 1 or 2 homes i bet!Lol I bet Sheffield and Bradford are green with envy they we have Bigi and Rose and they've got fleck and vincelot. In every game I've seen we've been hopelessly predictable in midfield. Rose is so underwhelming Mowbray now decides he's a wingback.
Or a right footJones seems scared to shoot. Technically and Pace wise, he's good, but he doesn't have an end product.
Can you not see the issues on the pitch? Away from the politics.Nick its all, It's, but's and maybe's.. Lets be honest deal with today's facts we are in trouble as a complete package, if TM left today, which i have no issue with, i just don't see it changes or effects much. If we were top of the league like we were last Christmas still doesn't change the fact we are in the shit today. Why don't you look at it this way instead of dealing with the future which is uncertain but with these owners a disaster.
And you also know i have never mentioned fan ownership, you know who i think is involved in a potential ownership and have spoke to you weeks about it...
Do you not think the politics off the pitch filters through to all?Can you not see the issues on the pitch? Away from the politics.
Anybody think he should stay if we do not beat Wimbledon midweek??
Read some match reports then dickhead, fleck on the bench and vincelot how good was he for us from january. Take your blind hatred out of the equation
And while were at it when did mowbray decide that about rose and how many games you been too 1 or 2 homes i bet!
I'm sure there will be a fair few that do.Anybody think he should stay if we do not beat Wimbledon midweek??
Read some match reports then dickhead, fleck on the bench and vincelot how good was he for us from january. Take your blind hatred out of the equation
You think that hate doesnt play a part in what you say? You are in denial, i dont get it!Hatred us an absurd notion - you are oddly protective of one individual - up to you.
It's a forum and I'll give my opinion. Ratings by fans are not always great indicators. Search threads about Kevin Malaga if you don't believe that. Then look at ratings Jacob Murphy received. I don't think Norwich are too worried he's back playing for them.
It's opposition and how they rate opponents that matters. Murphy was a threat to opposition as they knew his capability. Fleck could distribute and cover ground. The current midfield is weak and easily overrun. It's also pitifully ineffective when in possession. Nothing effective is being created. To say this hasn't gone backwards is absurd.
Stevenson seems to be able to carry the ball forward - but he isn't a first choice.
It's poor in comparison to last season - been to every home game other then west ham by the way but results and dominance don't lie.
Can you not see the issues on the pitch? Away from the politics.
At last comen sense.Fleck, Obrien, Cole, Armstrong, Vincelot, Maddison, Murphy even Kent. Mogga only bombed put Obrien because he felt detrimental to others. I disagreed with that, but add that we lost unluckily Reda and then Turner and the goals and strength basically ripped out. He's expected to replace it overnight with little resource. Would have been very lucky if he'd managed that. In our shite position I think we're still lucky to have him. Certainly deserving of more of a chance I mean who realistically will come in and wave a magic wand with players 5heyve not chosen and can't change for months? 5 more games minimum imo and I fully expect us moving up by then.
It wasn't overnight it was a pre season, he also has better resources than a faIr few managers in this league.Fleck, Obrien, Cole, Armstrong, Vincelot, Maddison, Murphy even Kent. Mogga only bombed put Obrien because he felt detrimental to others. I disagreed with that, but add that we lost unluckily Reda and then Turner and the goals and strength basically ripped out. He's expected to replace it overnight with little resource. Would have been very lucky if he'd managed that. In our shite position I think we're still lucky to have him. Certainly deserving of more of a chance I mean who realistically will come in and wave a magic wand with players 5heyve not chosen and can't change for months? 5 more games minimum imo and I fully expect us moving up by then.
I've never understood the resources argument , and how you can possibly use that argument now , surely that argument only holds up after 46 games .It wasn't overnight it was a pre season, he also has better resources than a faIr few managers in this league.
Cannot see how anyone can even think about what is going on at pitch level whilst this circus continues - Beleive me th me players and management are all affected daily by this off pitch saga and basically are acting professional and hoping beyond hope somebody/something will Changed behind the scenesCan you not see the issues on the pitch? Away from the politics.
Cannot see how anyone can even think about what is going on at pitch level whilst this circus continues
Lots of things have happened in 12 months including all the decent loan players returning to there clubs. I cannot see how anyone can judge TM working in the current conditions as football is about confidenceYour opinion, I cannot see how no-one cared about Sisu last year when we were flying high and then signing Joe Cole, but worst start in nearly 100 years and "it's not the managers fault it's Sisu".
Well yep, that only stacks up if the playing budget has been drastically cut, but it hasn't been has it.Your opinion, I cannot see how no-one cared about Sisu last year when we were flying high and then signing Joe Cole, but worst start in nearly 100 years and "it's not the managers fault it's Sisu".
Your opinion, I cannot see how no-one cared about Sisu last year when we were flying high and then signing Joe Cole, but worst start in nearly 100 years and "it's not the managers fault it's Sisu".
There was still plenty of criticism of SISU and the negative effect they had on the club, their inability to move the club forward.
Lots of things have happened in 12 months including all the decent loan players returning to there clubs. I cannot see how anyone can judge TM working in the current conditions as football is about confidence
To make a successful club the players/ manager- the owners and of course the fans must work together to be successful - everyone is going in different directions hence failure -
I've never understood the resources argument , and how you can possibly use that argument now , surely that argument only holds up after 46 games .
Have we started poor yes , should we do better yes , the other argument is that we mass release and recruit every single season , there is no stability whatsoever .
Now Walsall and burton had built sides over 4/5 years so they have stability and last season it showed why teams with lower budgets can do better than teams with bigger wage budgets .
Just because we can pay probably
an avarage of 500 a week more in wages per player doesn't mean that each player will be better and our team should be better , over teams that have kept their best players year in year out And haven't had to build a team from scratch like Mowbray has done this year
Well yep, that only stacks up if the playing budget has been drastically cut, but it hasn't been has it.
No-one within the club or media is saying it has and the word is that it is just about the same, or just slightly less, yet here we are, bottom of the table.
It simply doesn't stack up. Have we got a bottom of the table budget? No.
We are drastically underperforming.
Not everyone saw Cole coming as a great move. Not everyone thought promotion was nailed on. There was plenty of debate around where the team were actually at. However most people did revel in the high league position (even if it didn't reflect the true story) as it was a breath of fresh air. There was still plenty of criticism of SISU and the negative effect they had on the club, their inability to move the club forward.
Well Walsall started drifting away after a managerial change , and burton was forced , as was Walsall to be honest .the core squad didn't change did itBoth clubs you mention also had management changes.
We also started a team from scratch last season.
Last season we used far more players than these teams and have already used around 25 this season. Mowbray constantly rings the changes to no apparent purpose.
His performance post Christmas with that squad was abysmal.
Mowbray could if he wanted have retained Martin but now complains that he has young defenders.
He chose to retain Ricketts and tudgay which seems questionable to say the least.
He has signed two players on long contracts this season who the jury is still out on.
As for signings I would say most of the permanent signings he's made over the two years have been poor.
His history suggests when decline starts he doesn't turn it around.
Was agreeing with you and summing up.I agree, did you see my post before? I have not said our budget is any different to the year before
Fleck, Obrien, Cole, Armstrong, Vincelot, Maddison, Murphy even Kent. Mogga only bombed put Obrien because he felt detrimental to others. I disagreed with that, but add that we lost unluckily Reda and then Turner and the goals and strength basically ripped out. He's expected to replace it overnight with little resource. Would have been very lucky if he'd managed that. In our shite position I think we're still lucky to have him. Certainly deserving of more of a chance I mean who realistically will come in and wave a magic wand with players 5heyve not chosen and can't change for months? 5 more games minimum imo and I fully expect us moving up by then.
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