eastwoodsdustman
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Am I being naive here? Surely preparing for games would be talking through players individual responsibilities for the game?
I said it on another thread a week or so ago, we need a vision from him so we can understand what he's trying to achieve. Because he's rapidly losing people's faith and people are interpreting the strange decisions as limping towards the end of his contract. In which case it's been an utter waste of 2 years aside from Jodi Jones and Turnbull on longer contracts.And yet we have posters on this forum willing to throw him their keys and saying the line "in Tony we trust"...............
That's the thing, if he said "it's going to be shit, we won't go down but are totally rebuilding so this season is mid table, next we will have a solid squad of our own players" then people could understandI said it on another thread a week or so ago, we need a vision from him so we can understand what he's trying to achieve. Because he's rapidly losing people's faith and people are interpreting the strange decisions as limping towards the end of his contract. In which case it's been an utter waste of 2 years aside from Jodi Jones and Turnbull on longer contracts.
This is just jumping on Mowbray's back for the sake of it. Six months ago he was giving us the best season we have had in years. Literally years.
This is just jumping on Mowbray's back for the sake of it. Six months ago he was giving us the best season we have had in years. Literally years. And now, after a half-dozen games of the new season, he's morphed into a clueless moron according to some. Ridiculous.
This is just jumping on Mowbray's back for the sake of it. Six months ago he was giving us the best season we have had in years. Literally years. And now, after a half-dozen games of the new season, he's morphed into a clueless moron according to some. Ridiculous.
We were top of the league, the only thing that was ridiculous was that we finished outside of the playoffs given the first half of the season we had. It was completely inexcusable and one of the main reasons why he kept his job was that he said it was a two year plan, so people gave him the benefit of the doubt, and another year to improve.
What happened instead was a summer of cutting the best players from last season that we had (granted Fleck and the loans were probably going anyway), and failing to replace them numbers and quality wise, leaving all the transfer market activity to the dying seconds and then wondering why we have a team of players that firstly aren't probably good enough. Couple this with the admission that they haven't been training properly, and you wonder if the guy has completely lost the plot.
I think the implication is that they have been training with the players they had in preseason. This quote is attributed to the players who joined after the season began likeThey can train with the players they already have, then if they bring new players in they just bring them up to speed.
Although MV isn't anything to do with the football side now is he?
And if we win the next 20 in a row I'll love him again.
Things change.
I think the implication is that they have been training with the players they had in preseason. This quote is attributed to the players who joined after the season began like
Sterry
Turnbull
Page
Wright
Agyei
Bigi
Who haven't had much time to train with the team
Bang on.We were top of the league, the only thing that was ridiculous was that we finished outside of the playoffs given the first half of the season we had. It was completely inexcusable and one of the main reasons why he kept his job was that he said it was a two year plan, so people gave him the benefit of the doubt, and another year to improve.
What happened instead was a summer of cutting the best players from last season that we had (granted Fleck and the loans were probably going anyway), and failing to replace them numbers and quality wise, leaving all the transfer market activity to the dying seconds and then wondering why we have a team of players that firstly aren't probably good enough. Couple this with the admission that they haven't been training properly, and you wonder if the guy has completely lost the plot.
And if we win the next 20 in a row I'll love him again.
Things change.
This is just jumping on Mowbray's back for the sake of it. Six months ago he was giving us the best season we have had in years. Literally years. And now, after a half-dozen games of the new season, he's morphed into a clueless moron according to some. Ridiculous.
That's the thing, if he said "it's going to be shit, we won't go down but are totally rebuilding so this season is mid table, next we will have a solid squad of our own players" then people could understand
It's the best season we had in 2 years in terms of pre December results.
Same here lostIncredible. I'm all for defending the manager, and I'll even forgive the recruitment process going a bit wrong. But I'm lost for words here.
They can train with the players they already have, then if they bring new players in they just bring them up to speed.
Although MV isn't anything to do with the football side now is he?
Well... yes.
Isn't that what they're paid to do?
How did that season finish? Better or worse than last?
One place lower without a deduction
What would have been the points difference? Where would we have finished that season with the points we had this season season? How does the goal difference compare between the two seasons?
How is that relevant? We had a -10 start to a season and weren't even playing at home. The poster said it was in terms of a start to the season the best in years. Actually in terms of wins and points accumulated it wasn't.
League position is all that matters in a season. The actual performance of Mowbray and Pressley is almost identical at this stage of their careers for coventry and I can confidently predict that similarity will continue until we fire him.
And we will at some point this season fire him.
When do you think that will be out of interest. End of this month? Before Christmas?How is that relevant? We had a -10 start to a season and weren't even playing at home. The poster said it was in terms of a start to the season the best in years. Actually in terms of wins and points accumulated it wasn't.
League position is all that matters in a season. The actual performance of Mowbray and Pressley is almost identical at this stage of their careers for coventry and I can confidently predict that similarity will continue until we fire him.
And we will at some point this season fire him.
It's relevant because the season doesn't finish in December. TM in his first full season surpassed SP's even with the points deduction reinstated. We finished 8 points better of, a far far superior goal difference and in a season that was far far tighter. Let's look at the whole picture shall we. Not just one carefully selected piece.
(edit) Just to add, we'd have finished 14th last season with 61points. That's how much harder last season was.
I said day 1 he was an uninspiring choice for me.When do you think that will be out of interest. End of this month? Before Christmas?
You can't really make that assumption, because all variables are different. You could argue that the top 6 in 13/15 season were much stronger hence some of tbrm having better points targets or the 7-24th place being stronger and difficult to beat hence more draws and less wins and lower scores. You could argue that last season there were a lot weaker teams in the bottom half which meant the top half gained more points.
Not saying any of that is true, you can only judge season in its own context.
There are glaring similarities between SP and Mowbray
- both came in towards the end of a season and did OK but nothing brilliant
- both had a decent points finish in their first full season - 9th without the 10 point deduction SP / 8th Mowbray
- in that season both managers only had a good first half of the season before nose diving in the second half
- both dropped on lucky with a young unknown 20 goal a season striker
- both played attacking and possession football
- both then switched to a wing back system at the start of their second full season in which the team looked toothless.
-both openly admited to not knowing thr league or thr pool of players you'd recruit from
- both fairly reliant in the academy players
- at this point both their records are pretty much identical.
You also have to factor in that Presley had transfer embargo's, 2x points deductions, Northampton, and although existing high earners on the wage bill you'd argue that Presley had less to wheel and deal with at sixfields in particular, where he was only allowed to sign players on wages 75% lower than the outgoing player.
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Although I also read somewhere or other that some research over a period of time showed that the manager has much less influence over performance than player's pay does.
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