Mowbray v Adkins in L1 (2 Viewers)

[AFCCOVENTRY]

I see Adkins appointed Sheff U manager. Very good appointment for them.

Should be an interesting season coming with Mowbray and Adkins in L1.

Much will also depend on money available for players wages or transfers.

 

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[stupot07]

Sheffield United will have more buying power than us. With Atkins at the helm I'm now expecting them to challenge for automatics and the title, where as we will be a bit behind them hopefully challenging for top 6.


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[FRY-CCFC]

Sheffield United will have more buying power than us. With Atkins at the helm I'm now expecting them to challenge for automatics and the title, where as we will be a bit behind them hopefully challenging for top 6.


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That's how I see it at the minute. Dependant on signings then I may get slightly more optimistic.

Not like me to be overly optimistic though is it

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

They get much bigger crowds than us and own their own stadium...must help them with a top 3 budget in L1.

 

[Astute]

They get much bigger crowds than us and own their own stadium...must help them with a top 3 budget in L1.

How much income do you think they get from owning their own stadium? Yes their gates are much higher than ours. But I would expect ours to be much higher if we are not near the bottom of the table as usual. And I would consider TM to be the most experienced between the two of them and to also have better contacts in the game. He even managed to get a good loan signing from Spurs just after joining us. And there is a good chance he will do something similar again.

 

[Sick Boy]

I can't imagine we would pull in crowds on par with Sheffield It'd if we were successful in this league.

 

[mrtrench]

I can't imagine we would pull in crowds on par with Sheffield It'd if we were successful in this league.

What if we were to spread a rumour in Sheffield that they are crap?

 

[Sick Boy]

What if we were to spread a rumour in Sheffield that they are crap?

A lot of their fans do think they're crap!!

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

The longer we stay down here the harder it will be to get out of the league with big teams dropping down, managers trickling down the divisions and more teams spending money.

 

[ps1948]

They get much bigger crowds than us and own their own stadium...must help them with a top 3 budget in L1.

Hasn't helped them get promoted for the past few seasons............

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Would have been happier with either of these managers but think we have the better one just.

 

[Sick Boy]

The longer we stay down here the harder it will be to get out of the league with big teams dropping down, managers trickling down the divisions and more teams spending money.

Like Sheffield United you mean?

 

[Gint11]

Roughly speaking, dont they attract around 17k for home games? We would easily get that if a semi successful season, even more so with how starved we are of having a good full season. In saying that, they do own their own stadium and have more buying power than us so I expect them to be up there. I am shocked they sacked Clough.

 

[Sick Boy]

Roughly speaking, dont they attract around 17k for home games? We would easily get that if a semi successful season, even more so with how starved we are of having a good full season. In saying that, they do own their own stadium and have more buying power than us so I expect them to be up there. I am shocked they sacked Clough.

We barely managed to get that in the Championship.

 

[Otis]

Roughly speaking, dont they attract around 17k for home games? We would easily get that if a semi successful season, even more so with how starved we are of having a good full season. In saying that, they do own their own stadium and have more buying power than us so I expect them to be up there. I am shocked they sacked Clough.

Not a semi successful one I would have thought, but maybe if we were top and winning regularly at home.

 

[Ashdown]

They get much bigger crowds than us and own their own stadium...must help them with a top 3 budget in L1.

Didn't someone quantify on here once that the profits after costs on a years pie and beer sales was around £100,000 ? We pay £100,000 rent now and I'm not sure about the Corporate arrangement/split ? but the difference between us and other clubs revenue streams { especially in this division} is not as great as SISU would like you to think.

 

[Sick Boy]

Didn't someone quantify on here once that the profits after costs on a years pie and beer sales was around £100,000 ? We pay £100,000 rent now and I'm not sure about the Corporate arrangement/split ? but the difference between us and other clubs revenue streams { especially in this division} is not as great as SISU would like you to think.

So there is no need to own our own ground again? I am surprised that more clubs aren't looking at us with envy to be honest.

 

[Astute]

So there is no need to own our own ground again? I am surprised that more clubs aren't looking at us with envy to be honest.

Owning our own stadium would give us one big thing. Security.

Would you like to let us know any other big points about owning our own stadium as you like to bring it up frequently. A few have even said that we will be in the shit until we do. The problem is they fail to back it up with facts. We are much better off renting the Ricoh for about the present amount than building one outside Coventry as they are suggesting. Why don't you have a go at Richardson for making us homeless instead of anyone else mentioning it?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Didn't someone quantify on here once that the profits after costs on a years pie and beer sales was around £100,000 ? We pay £100,000 rent now and I'm not sure about the Corporate arrangement/split ? but the difference between us and other clubs revenue streams { especially in this division} is not as great as SISU would like you to think.

I think it's more than the pie and beer sales you refer to. Meeting, Conference and Exhibition space could easily garner £2-5m per annum.

 

[Sky Blue Dal]

I can't imagine we would pull in crowds on par with Sheffield It'd if we were successful in this league.

I wouldn't be too sure on that. It has been a long time since we have had any success and the fans including the many stay away fans are all hungry for it.

I can tell you one thing all the lost fans will come back in droves BUT most importantly it all down to SISU's marketing strategy and there ability to promote this success to the masses.

 

[Sick Boy]

I wouldn't be too sure on that. It has been a long time since we have had any success and the fans including the many stay away fans are all hungry for it.

I can tell you one thing all the lost fans will come back in droves BUT most importantly it all down to SISU's marketing strategy and there ability to promote this success to the masses.

I often forget that when we were in the top-flight HR was a sell out every week. We never got crowds of sub 12000

 

[Astute]

I think it's more than the pie and beer sales you refer to. Meeting, Conference and Exhibition space could easily garner £2-5m per annum.

Not easily. The arena was said to be making a loss when there was no rent being paid. And the arena is in a good location for people travelling to the area. Not only that but there is a lot of competition in the area. And all of it it well established. If it was so good why didn't SISU purchase it instead of risking losing it trying to get a few million knocked off the price?

 

[Astute]

I often forget that when we were in the top-flight HR was a sell out every week. We never got crowds of sub 12000

The time when our attendances were so low was when violence was about. Just about all clubs suffered. Attendances were on their way back up slowly as the violence got less. But it was a long process. If you was ever about at them times you will understand why a lot of families stopped going. We even went as low as 8,000 IIRC.

 

[Sky Blue Dal]

I often forget that when we were in the top-flight HR was a sell out every week. We never got crowds of sub 12000

You also forget the times when we were doing well and had some good run of games whilst we were in top flight at Hr , we were getting 18,000+ . A well known example of this is 86-87 season and when we had the six win streak in the PL under Gordan Strachan, There are many more I could add to this list .



When the team is doing well and are winning consistently the crowds will turn up and that implies to all teams in professional football. If the sky blues do well be it in cup competitions and especially if they feel there is a good chance of aiming for promotion the larger crowd will come back.

 

[skybluebeduff]

Hasn't helped them get promoted for the past few seasons............

They would of if Ched wasn't a very naughty boy.

 

[Sick Boy]

The time when our attendances were so low was when violence was about. Just about all clubs suffered. Attendances were on their way back up slowly as the violence got less. But it was a long process. If you was ever about at them times you will understand why a lot of families stopped going. We even went as low as 8,000 IIRC.

I can remember going in 1995 vs Wimbledon and there was less than 10k there!

 

[Hobo]

I can remember going in 1995 vs Wimbledon and there was less than 10k there!

I can remember poor gates in the 70's against Sheff United and Middlesborough. Perhaps Highfield Road wasn't always the Mecca people remember? However, normally good sides playing well for City have pulled decent crowds.

it is the same everywhere I have lived Sheffield, Liverpool, Manchester and their conurbations, crowds reflect the teams performance levels. Villa have pulled 14000 in top flight before.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Not easily. The arena was said to be making a loss when there was no rent being paid. And the arena is in a good location for people travelling to the area. Not only that but there is a lot of competition in the area. And all of it it well established. If it was so good why didn't SISU purchase it instead of risking losing it trying to get a few million knocked off the price?

If you have a decent venue, which the Ricoh is (Exhibition Hall as well as internal facilities) then £2-£5m is easily achievable. I work with a number of venues across the UK and Europe who have facilities not as comparable (smaller) and they're turning over revenue within that bracket.

You're right about competition though...fair point. Comparably, you've got the NEC, NIA and the Telford Centre really. But if you've got a good sales team and a good operations team to help secure repeat business, £2-£5m for a venue like the Ricoh is an easily achievable.

 

[Paxman II]

Fans have been starved too long. They will return as soon as some success takes place on the pitch. Winning at home and vying for promotion (something we have not done in decades) will see regular crowds of 17/18k or more at the Ricoh even in league 1 because there will be a sense of us finally getting back to where we belong and that would be a tantalizing crowd puller. It's all down to TM and listening to his comments about Reda and aspirations of going up and trying to go up again is certainly encouraging and full of confidence.