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SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

The line may be similar but at least the Sky Blue saga is back in the hands of the Sports Editor.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/sport-opinion/sky-blues-theres-deal---6234431

It's a decent read, mentions the poll that Reid has conveniently ignored (and its flaws) but offers no new insights but perhaps we might get a more balanced coverage now?

dongonzalos · Oct 24, 2013

SkyBlueCharlie said:
The line may be similar but at least the Sky Blue saga is back in the hands of the Sports Editor.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/sport-opinion/sky-blues-theres-deal---6234431

It's a decent read, mentions the poll that Reid has conveniently ignored (and its flaws) but offers no new insights but perhaps we might get a more balanced coverage now?

Hopefully yes.

Still doesn't say how many voted in the poll in just 4 days.

duffer · Oct 24, 2013

That article's a bit more like it, imho.

My only question is, do SISU really have £30-£40m to plough into the club to buy a ground and fund the losses at Northampton, or are they bluffing?

Personal opinion, they've got nothing like this sort of money available to them, and if they can't get the Ricoh at a massive discount they won't buy it. Nor, for the same reason, will they buy a new stadium. I still think the improved rental deal is the most likely route to a return, but I guess we'll see.

dongonzalos · Oct 24, 2013

duffer said:
That article's a bit more like it, imho.

My only question is, do SISU really have £30-£40m to plough into the club to buy a ground and fund the losses at Northampton, or are they bluffing?

Personal opinion, they've got nothing like this sort of money available to them, and if they can't get the Ricoh at a massive discount they won't buy it. Nor, for the same reason, will they buy a new stadium. I still think the improved rental deal is the most likely route to a return, but I guess we'll see.

Personally I don't think the question is whether they can get access to someone else's 30-40 million.

It is more a case of when they then look to get a return on their investment we are talking about someone buying CCFC for 100-110 million.

None of the people who have been granted access Ms Sepella have challenged this point

singers_pore · Oct 24, 2013

Yes, that article is far more reasonable and balanced compared with the tripe written by Les Reid.

John_Silletts_Nose · Oct 24, 2013

A good, refreshing, honest review of the situation, better than the opinion pieces written by Les Reid.

Some more investigative journalism on SISU Capital or ACL/CCC would be interesting.

duffer · Oct 24, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Personally I don't think the question is whether they can get access to someone else's 30-40 million.

It is more a case of when they then look to get a return on their investment we are talking about someone buying CCFC for 100-110 million.

None of the people who have been granted access Ms Sepella have challenged this point

Yep, good point, although it assumes that the £60m they claim to have already lost on CCFC is really the truth.

I'm not entirely convinced it is, but it certainly begs the question.

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

John_Silletts_Nose said:
A good, refreshing, honest review of the situation, better than the opinion pieces written by Les Reid.

Some more investigative journalism on SISU Capital or ACL/CCC would be interesting.

Quite right...and that's where Reid should be spending his time, effort and expertise. Just my opinion of course!

AndreasB · Oct 24, 2013

Ever thought it may be you that is imbalanced?

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

AndreasB said:
Ever thought it may be you that is imbalanced?

Feeling a bit touchy aren't you? If you want to insult me them please get the word right...it is unbalanced. But to answer your apparent question then 'no'. What I look for is the sort of balanced, relatively unbiased journalism that we get in this article, something that we have not been getting for the past couple of weeks. I used to be quite impressed by Les Reid but just lately, in my opinion he's forgotten that he is a journalist and has become an activist. Nothing wrong with that in principle but he should at least come out and say that is his viewpoint.

RPHunt · Oct 24, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Personally I don't think the question is whether they can get access to someone else's 30-40 million.

It is more a case of when they then look to get a return on their investment we are talking about someone buying CCFC for 100-110 million.

None of the people who have been granted access Ms Sepella have challenged this point

Yes, very true.

Somebody from Sheffield tells me that Mandaric is looking at offers to buy Wednesday for £20-£25 million. So, for more or less the amount it is going to cost SISU to build a new stadium, a would be owner can buy a Championship side with a ground that can hold 35k and a fanbase that averages over 20k in good times and in bad.

I suspect that anyone, with the sort of money to underwrite SISU's daft scheme, will be asking Ms Seppala how exactly she expects to get back the cost of a new stadium, let alone make a profit.

dongonzalos · Oct 24, 2013

RPHunt said:
Yes, very true.

Somebody from Sheffield tells me that Mandaric is looking at offers to buy Wednesday for £20-£25 million. So, for more or less the amount it is going to cost SISU to build a new stadium, a would be owner can buy a Championship side with a ground that can hold 35k and a fanbase that averages over 20k in good times and in bad.

I suspect that anyone, with the sort of money to underwrite SISU's daft scheme, will be asking Ms Seppala how exactly she expects to get back the cost of a new stadium, let alone make a profit.

This is the frustrating part

No one seems to questing Ms Sepalla or Mr Fisher over this.

They ask them what their plans are they say borrow money and build a stadium.

No one then says right and how do you intend to get a return on your investment?

They really can't with that plan.

ecky · Oct 24, 2013

duffer said:
That article's a bit more like it, imho.
My only question is, do SISU really have £30-£40m to plough into the club to buy a ground and fund the losses at Northampton, or are they bluffing?

Personal opinion, they've got nothing like this sort of money available to them, and if they can't get the Ricoh at a massive discount they won't buy it. Nor, for the same reason, will they buy a new stadium. I still think the improved rental deal is the most likely route to a return, but I guess we'll see.

Exactly right..... It's been 6 months since fisher said they were building a new stadium!
Where is it sisu stop playing games with our club...either you have the money to make an offer for the Ricoh or you don't, the other option ain't going to happen, the silence from them is deafening

kmj5000 · Oct 24, 2013

Spot on - cue SISU?

kmj5000 · Oct 24, 2013

dongonzalos said:
This is the frustrating part

No one seems to questing Ms Sepalla or Mr Fisher over this.

They ask them what their plans are they say borrow money and build a stadium.

No one then says right and how do you intend to get a return on your investment?

They really can't with that plan.

Tim Fisher was invited to speak to CWR yesterday but he refused!

AndreasB · Oct 24, 2013

SkyBlueCharlie said:
Feeling a bit touchy aren't you? If you want to insult me them please get the word right...it is unbalanced. But to answer your apparent question then 'no'. What I look for is the sort of balanced, relatively unbiased journalism that we get in this article, something that we have not been getting for the past couple of weeks. I used to be quite impressed by Les Reid but just lately, in my opinion he's forgotten that he is a journalist and has become an activist. Nothing wrong with that in principle but he should at least come out and say that is his viewpoint.

IM touchy!! ho ho...from the people who see consipracy everywhere. I would dare to suggest he is better informed and better read than the loons on here so i would trust his judgement over yours anyday.

oh and if you are going to try and be picky over grammar - get it right pal - nothing worse than a fucking pedant who is WRONG

"In common usage, imbalance is the noun meaning the state of being not balanced, while unbalance is the verb meaning to cause the loss of balance. In the context stated, the noun form should be used"

RPHunt · Oct 24, 2013

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asb · Oct 24, 2013

AndreasB said:
...from the people who see consipracy everywhere. I would dare to suggest he is better informed and better read than the loons on here so i would trust his judgement over yours anyday.

When I read many of the posts like yours I think the words:-

Reductio ad absurdum

Why debate the facts when you can claim instead that anyone who does not agree with you is a conspiracy nut.

Then why would you be interested in a debate when personal insults work well for you.

As for the article it was more inclusive then much of what has been coming from that direction in recent weeks.

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

AndreasB said:
IM touchy!! ho ho...from the people who see consipracy everywhere. I would dare to suggest he is better informed and better read than the loons on here so i would trust his judgement over yours anyday.

oh and if you are going to try and be picky over grammar - get it right pal - nothing worse than a fucking pedant who is WRONG

"In common usage, imbalance is the noun meaning the state of being not balanced, while unbalance is the verb meaning to cause the loss of balance. In the context stated, the noun form should be used"

Why do you see the need to use to revert to such personal abuse? While I do rely upon academic learning and research to look for the truth, I'm not overly concerned with insignificant detail as I think the detail was far from that in this discussion and at no time while writing my reply was I engaging in any form of sexual congress or any other sexual act. (That's before you see the need to revert to any other form of abuse.)

As far as subscribing to any conspiracy theory, where do you get that from? I feel that the article quoted gives a much more balanced (it's that word again) view than some of the recent stuff from Mr Reid. That's not a conspiracy as it's my personal view, I am not, as far as I'm aware, part of any group or organisation that are planning to carry out any illegal or harmful act, with or without political motivation or making any such plans in secret. That's just my opinion of course!

GaryPendrysEyes · Oct 24, 2013

The Sports Editor is a breath of fresh air after Les Reid. Just straightforward no obvious underhand agendas spinning in the background.. In my opinion.

He didn't mention the rent option though, which is an option to get us back to Coventry, why discount it just because Sisu don't like it....

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

RPHunt said:
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Do you think we could we could get Nick to include this in with all the other emoticons?

RPHunt · Oct 24, 2013

SkyBlueCharlie said:
Do you think we could we could get Nick to include this in with all the other emoticons?

I think it should be automatically generated to appear at the end of any post that uses profanities and words in capitals to justify a point.

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 24, 2013

RPHunt said:
I think it should be automatically generated to appear at the end of any post that uses profanities and words in capitals to justify a point.

Sounds pretty good to me.

dadgad · Oct 24, 2013

Anything's better than "don't read Les Reid" who is a waste of space

Jack Griffin · Oct 24, 2013

singers_pore said:
Yes, that article is far more reasonable and balanced compared with the tripe written by Les Reid.

Agreed.. a sensible balanced analysis at last.,

Jack Griffin · Oct 24, 2013

duffer said:
Yep, good point, although it assumes that the £60m they claim to have already lost on CCFC is really the truth.

I'm not entirely convinced it is, but it certainly begs the question.

At least 50% of it is what GR wrote off when they bought CCFC, but they kept it on the books.

Astute · Oct 24, 2013

AndreasB said:
IM touchy!! ho ho...from the people who see consipracy everywhere. I would dare to suggest he is better informed and better read than the loons on here so i would trust his judgement over yours anyday.

oh and if you are going to try and be picky over grammar - get it right pal - nothing worse than a fucking pedant who is WRONG

"In common usage, imbalance is the noun meaning the state of being not balanced, while unbalance is the verb meaning to cause the loss of balance. In the context stated, the noun form should be used"

Sounds more like a conspiracy about conspiracies to me............unless you do mean consipracy :thinking about:

Florence1898 · Oct 24, 2013

Apparently there are rumours in Media circles that the trade off for Joy giving an exclusive interview to Les Reid was, he had to sell his soul and agree to sympathetically report SISU's cause and to instigate a direct attack on the Council. Mr Reid's inability to piece together a cohesive story based on evidence that has been publicly released, for example Bob Ainsworth, just demonstrates how difficult it must be for him to compute, then again Alun Thorn his editor must also be spineless.

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