New manager's contract (1 Viewer)

psgm1 · Sep 3, 2012

In the real world, a new employee is typically signed on with a probationary period between 3 and 6 months dependant upon the company.

Why can't you put a manager under those terms?

Surely if a manager cannot make an impact within 3 months they NEVER will?

Thorn's first 20 games should have been enough to have got him sacked last season, yet had he been on probation, they could have got rid without having to pay compensation!

In what other job would you get paid for being so incompetent that you get sacked?

By the same token players should be treated similarly! Would give them an incentive to play to their best all the time!

I know it will never happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't!

Grendel · Sep 3, 2012

There is nothing to stop it happening providing both parties agree the terms.

hamil99 · Sep 3, 2012

Because football ain't like a real business. We've had sisu try and run this club like an average business and look where its got us..... No its time to run pur club like a football club, not a fuckin estate agents.....

Yorkshire SB · Sep 3, 2012

Possibly, but I don't think that's good for the club. Not putting faith in a manager can lead to a rebellious squad and could cause real problems.

Also heard a rumour from a source within the game that said Didi Hamman has applied for the job! From following him on twitter and having watched him as a pundit, I think he could be an interesting choice, comes across very well and seems to have a superb knowledge of the game, not to mention a seemingly calm persona and high intelligence. Unproven I know, but I wouldn't be against him coming in.

mark82 · Sep 4, 2012

I've never been on a probationary contract. If a firm wants my skills then it will be on a permanent basis. No way I would leave a stable jobs for another company on such terms.

mark82 · Sep 4, 2012

On the other hand if I got sacked in the first year of a contract pretty sure you cannot sue for unfair dismissal.

Sawyer · Sep 4, 2012

He kinda had a guarenteed 1 season contract due to the circumstances in which he was placed.

Mucca Mad Boys · Sep 4, 2012

hamil99 said:
Because football ain't like a real business. We've had sisu try and run this club like an average business and look where its got us..... No its time to run pur club like a football club, not a feckin estate agents.....

Football clubs are run like business, that's capitalism for you...

Tad · Sep 4, 2012

No potential manager would agree to it because if they failed, they'd walk away empty handed. Where as sacking them once they have control requires a hefty pay out by the club.

Football is ran like a business, and that's what's cheapened the game. Too many greedy people trying to get there hands on money.

sly_old_fox · Sep 4, 2012

mark82 said:
On the other hand if I got sacked in the first year of a contract pretty sure you cannot sue for unfair dismissal.

if you got sacked before the end of your contract then you can sue for unfair dismissal, if you just yake a job under regular employment term, as most of us do, then if you are sacked/let go within the first 12 months then there is very little you can do about it, probationary period or no probationary period.

SkyBlueGuy · Sep 4, 2012

There are pleanty of was to be sacked whilst under contact without it being unfair dismissal. For example if you are incompetent or you harass people at work etc.

I was thinking about the contract situation last night. Seems that realistically they should be offering one year contracts not three. I understand the arguement that you need to show support/faith in the new man but financially it's stupid. When was the last time we renewed the contract of a manager? The players no full well that a manager on a three year contact can still be sacked so I don't think player would give less respect to a manager on one year.

SonofErnie · Sep 4, 2012

It may sound a good idea in principle, but who are you going to attract on a short term deal, especially if they are already employed. Another point being that if they do well, they can walk away to a bigger and better job at the end of the contract.

ccfcway · Sep 4, 2012

SonofErnie said:
It may sound a good idea in principle, but who are you going to attract on a short term deal, especially if they are already employed. Another point being that if they do well, they can walk away to a bigger and better job at the end of the contract.

yer, not much of a concern for us, that one.

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