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Ashdown · Jun 20, 2017

90% down to the owners as usual. If they back the manager then we should be top 6 in that league surely but although they have allowed a few players in, who will go now to compensate them and come January if we are flying do they cash in on our better players as has happened before ? My heart says automatic promotion, my head says Joy and Tim will balance the books and we will fall to mid table.

Skyblueweeman · Jun 20, 2017

standupforcity said:
Play-offs......and as we have a 100% Wembley record, everything points to promotion.

66.67%...won the FA Cup & Checkatrade but lost the Charity Shield to Everton.

Astute · Jun 20, 2017

Without knowing our squad it would be as hard guessing where we will finish next season as knowing what sort of mood my wife will be in next week.

oldskyblue58 · Jun 20, 2017

Difficult to tell, over the years I haven't paid much attention to L2 so don't know much about it. The impression I get it is more about thumping the ball than playing the ball around and that it is based on size and physicality. Do we have a squad to match or counter that?

I don't buy in to the notion that says we are CCFC so should challenge at the top or even expect playoffs or automatic promotion. It has to be earnt, and set up properly from the get go. I do not think finance should be an excuse for mediocrity in L2 - potentially we will have a budget to better most teams.

What gives me confidence is the manager that we have. His record in the lower leagues (1& 2) is pretty decent, and I like the way he talks the game. He seems to tell it how it is. Has said they have targeted more players so I hope he can get a good number over the line and into our squad. I would think MR is a major asset in "selling" the club to any potential players

I think the Wembley win will be important psychologically because those who remain will be associated with winning not repetitive failure that has been long ingrained in to CCFC

Against that. As yet I am not sure I see a squad as yet that is nailed on promotion candidates or going to be consistent & strong enough to be round the play off places. At the moment I would say 8th or 9th. We still lack goals, speed, physicality and leaders in my opinion but that may change by August assuming there are funds, or created, in the budget. Every team will see CCFC as a target to beat and we have seen that effect before coupled with CCFC inability to cope with it

I do however feel that the football side of things is getting its act together better. That there is improving communication and marketing. That gives me more confidence. I think that improving situation gets masked by the off field stuff surrounding owners, finances, bids and court cases.

Overall optimistic at this point, but wary of outright positivity after many seasons of failure

Paxman II · Jun 20, 2017

It is not a question of predicting, hoping, wishing, it's a simple case of expectation. Anything but promotion will be abject failure.
This should be our defining turn around built on a decent manager by all accounts, a decent budget tbf and a good start to recruitment early on.
The signs are there for a revival of sorts, build momentum to take to league 1 and the championship.
If we have a good season but fail by a gnats whisker to gain promotion it might be OK for another season, but after that fail to go up and I think the wheels will finally fall off and CCFC will be no more. In simple terms this club can not afford a poor season any more.

Ashdown · Jun 20, 2017

Paxman II said:
It is not a question of predicting, hoping, wishing, it's a simple case of expectation. Anything but promotion will be abject failure.
This should be our defining turn around built on a decent manager by all accounts, a decent budget tbf and a good start to recruitment early on.
The signs are there for a revival of sorts, build momentum to take to league 1 and the championship.
If we have a good season but fail by a gnats whisker to gain promotion it might be OK for another season, but after that fail to go up and I think the wheels will finally fall off and CCFC will be no more. In simple terms this club can not afford a poor season any more.

I agree, the club is on borrowed time now and if SISU fail this time at this level then it will surely signal the end for almost all but the most desperate of the fan base.

Covkid1968# · Jun 20, 2017

I wont be confident of a top 6 finish until I see the League 2 on tour t-shirts on sale....

clint van damme · Jun 20, 2017

Ashdown said:
I agree, the club is on borrowed time now and if SISU fail this time at this level then it will surely signal the end for almost all but the most desperate of the fan base.

I'm not sure how following your club through probably the worst spell of it's history equates to being desperate. Desperate for what?

Skyblueweeman · Jun 20, 2017

oldskyblue58 said:
Difficult to tell, over the years I haven't paid much attention to L2 so don't know much about it. The impression I get it is more about thumping the ball than playing the ball around and that it is based on size and physicality. Do we have a squad to match or counter that?

I don't buy in to the notion that says we are CCFC so should challenge at the top or even expect playoffs or automatic promotion. It has to be earnt, and set up properly from the get go. I do not think finance should be an excuse for mediocrity in L2 - potentially we will have a budget to better most teams.

What gives me confidence is the manager that we have. His record in the lower leagues (1& 2) is pretty decent, and I like the way he talks the game. He seems to tell it how it is. Has said they have targeted more players so I hope he can get a good number over the line and into our squad. I would think MR is a major asset in "selling" the club to any potential players

I think the Wembley win will be important psychologically because those who remain will be associated with winning not repetitive failure that has been long ingrained in to CCFC

Against that. As yet I am not sure I see a squad as yet that is nailed on promotion candidates or going to be consistent & strong enough to be round the play off places. At the moment I would say 8th or 9th. We still lack goals, speed, physicality and leaders in my opinion but that may change by August assuming there are funds, or created, in the budget. Every team will see CCFC as a target to beat and we have seen that effect before coupled with CCFC inability to cope with it

I do however feel that the football side of things is getting its act together better. That there is improving communication and marketing. That gives me more confidence. I think that improving situation gets masked by the off field stuff surrounding owners, finances, bids and court cases.

Overall optimistic at this point, but wary of outright positivity after many seasons of failure

Great post OSB. Agree with everything in it. I'm the same as well really...too early to tell but I'm happy with the work MR has done to get bodies in already as well the apparent effort and improved communication from the club.

I'm pleased that we're going into pre-season with something resembling a good foundation of a squad rather than the usual scenario of getting loans in during August and not having time to settle.

Fingers crossed...

Adge · Jun 20, 2017

Like to think this season will be different but we still need some of the dross out of the door and better to be coming in. Need to do it at the first time of asking and by any route possible. In reality I think 10-12th will probably be somewhere more like where we will finish and the demise will continue.

Astute · Jun 20, 2017

ATM we are missing the main ingredient. A goalscorer. If Robins manages to get one in I will go into next season very confident. But so far we are looking mid table. But we are not looking much worse than anyone else. Just about every club will be bringing in players. We are just past halfway through June. There is a long time to go yet.

Liquid Gold · Jun 20, 2017

Astute said:
ATM we are missing the main ingredient. A goalscorer. If Robins manages to get one in I will go into next season very confident. But so far we are looking mid table. But we are not looking much worse than anyone else. Just about every club will be bringing in players. We are just past halfway through June. There is a long time to go yet.

What's happened with Collins, it's gone very quiet.

covcity4life · Jun 20, 2017

its still way too soon. we need more players asap

if haynes,thomas and turnbull sign up we still need 1 winger,1 amc and 1 striker minimum.

ccfcway · Jun 20, 2017

oldskyblue58 said:
What gives me confidence is the manager that we have. His record in the lower leagues (1& 2) is pretty decent,

What's he done ?

Grendel · Jun 20, 2017

ccfcway said:
What's he done ?

His record in league two is very good isn't it with Rotherham? His record with us is undeniably good and his record at Scunthorpe is milgned but in the first season they climbed from relegation to top 10 I think.

ccfcway · Jun 20, 2017

Grendel said:
His record in league two is very good isn't it with Rotherham? His record with us is undeniably good and his record at Scunthorpe is milgned but in the first season they climbed from relegation to top 10 I think.

I said the same thing In a previous thread that he was at least a top 6 manager in this league and was told he hasn't done it before and has no experience of taking a team up....

Personally, I don't think we can ask for a better manager in league two

Grendel · Jun 20, 2017

ccfcway said:
I said the same thing In a previous thread that he was at least a top 6 manager in this league and was told he hasn't done it before and has no experience of taking a team up....

Personally, I don't think we can ask for a better manager in league two

I'm sure at Rotherham one season he had something like a 17 point reduction.

ccfcway · Jun 20, 2017

Grendel said:
I'm sure at Rotherham one season he had something like a 17 point reduction.

they did, he would have made the play offs without that

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jun 20, 2017

Astute said:
ATM we are missing the main ingredient. A goalscorer. If Robins manages to get one in I will go into next season very confident. But so far we are looking mid table. But we are not looking much worse than anyone else. Just about every club will be bringing in players. We are just past halfway through June. There is a long time to go yet.

Very Astute of you Astute ! it doesn't matter witch league the team plays in , if you don't SCORE more GOALS then your opponents you won't win the games and the team goes nowhere !

I know it's stating the obvious . I hope Mark Robins gets LUCKY in the transfer market for a 20+ goals striker .

Deleted member 4439 · Jun 21, 2017

skybluesam66 said:
season 1 10th
season 2 17th
season 3 24th

and then repeat in the conference

that's a fair shout.

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