But Boris says Brexit is oven ready.Notwithstanding the effects of COVID on the aviation industry, given the proposed expansion of LTN, and lots of capacity still at STN there is no chance that any airline would consider using BHX as an alternative to extra LON capacity. That’s also not factoring in the potential LHR 3rd runway, which the Government might now decide to back and want to use to make the UK look like it is strong and open for business after the s**tshow that will be Brexit.
I think going back a few years when Bryan Richardson was yahooing having a station at the Ricoh to ferry the hordes of punters to our super duper new ground was a pipe dream just like his national stadium bollox.
Johnson is oven-ready. Fckn turkey.I think going back a few years when Bryan Richardson was yahooing having a station at the Ricoh to ferry the hordes of punters to our super duper new ground was a pipe dream just like his national stadium bollox.
But Boris says Brexit is oven ready.
Notwithstanding the effects of COVID on the aviation industry, given the proposed expansion of LTN, and lots of capacity still at STN there is no chance that any airline would consider using BHX as an alternative to extra LON capacity. That’s also not factoring in the potential LHR 3rd runway, which the Government might now decide to back and want to use to make the UK look like it is strong and open for business after the s**tshow that will be Brexit.
Cost of HS2 tickets apparently to be prohibitive to all but business travellers who are now all working at homeThis decision massively predated Covid and even Brexit, so those played little part in the decision for HS2 (although the latter will have been factored into the review last year).
The LHR 3rd runway has been mooted (and resisted) for ages, as have any alternatives and the cost of such development in the SE would be massive.
Answer this - if the reason for it is to encourage investment further north, why put the main stop attached to an airport? Surely you'd ignore that and just go straight into Birmingham or nearby. Why would people fly to London, to then have to travel across London to get on a train to take them on a 45 mins 100 mile journey north? Wouldn't you either just stay in London or fly straight to BHX and connect from there? Of course it doesn't have the same level of flights as London but it could be expanded to cater for more flights and would likely be much cheaper than expanding existing London airports such as Heathrow.
Similarly if it was for those using the Channel Tunnel from Europe, HS2 doesn't connect to HS1 - one terminates at St Pancras, the other Euston - so again they'd have to get off and a connecting train. Why bother? Just stay in London.
Now look at it from the other direction. Plane lands at BHX. Get on a train attached to the airport and be in central London in 45mins, a time comparable with a number of the other 'London' airports. Then when you leave get on a 45 min train back to BHX, straight off and into the airport.
One of those scenarios makes sense. The other doesn't.
Cost of HS2 tickets apparently to be prohibitive to all but business travellers who are now all working at home
The local Coventry to Leamington train, via Kenilworth, is a one to two carriage affair. In fact, it's the one that goes through Coventry Arena station!
Cost of HS2 tickets apparently to be prohibitive to all but business travellers who are now all working at home
They have further to go - saving 20 mins getting to London from Brum is wasted on the first cup of coffee - we live 1.5 hours from St Andrews and therefore not that different from the new HS2 stadium - still quicker for me to go South in the car and park - jump on the tubeHaving high speed rail is a good idea, how do so many other countries manage it without making it such a cluster fuck?
But our country is bigger than Cov or Brum to London and the whole point is that it should be quicker, easier and cheaper than doing it by car because we'd be doing less damage to the environment.They have further to go - saving 20 mins getting to London from Brum is wasted on the first cup of coffee - we live 1.5 hours from St Andrews and therefore not that different from the new HS2 stadium - still quicker for me to go South in the car and park - jump on the tube
But our country is bigger than Cov or Brum to London and the whole point is that it should be quicker, easier and cheaper than doing it by car because we'd be doing less damage to the environment.
Well if we all had electric cars then no - for the destruction of the countryside so far then no - i used Brum as the example - would have been more effective doing the North end first - problem is that for everyone South of Brum it has no benefit but a massive impact on the countryside - trains abroad are very inexpensive to use and i have done - here they are very expensive and i have not been on a train for 5 years , our problem is we have to drive and then park - its cheaper to go by car and park like the Wembley trips and currently low Covid riskBut our country is bigger than Cov or Brum to London and the whole point is that it should be quicker, easier and cheaper than doing it by car because we'd be doing less damage to the environment.
How the hell can you reduce people travelling?Rather than build a railway why doesn't the government do more to reduce the number of journeys and the average distance travelled?
I'm not saying HS2 has been well managed, I said it's a clusterfuck but everything you've ought up shows that it could have been done better. Electric car's are expensive to buy and don't travel long distances yet, trains can.Well if we all had electric cars then no - for the destruction of the countryside so far then no - i used Brum as the example - would have been more effective doing the North end first - problem is that for everyone South of Brum it has no benefit but a massive impact on the countryside - trains abroad are very inexpensive to use and i have done - here they are very expensive and i have not been on a train for 5 years , our problem is we have to drive and then park - its cheaper to go by car and park like the Wembley trips and currently low Covid risk
Sure - trouble is now i think its a bigger white elephant than Sky Blue Sam - and its too expensive to can it which is a shame as Richie needs 40 billion right nowHow the hell can you reduce people travelling?
I'm not saying HS2 has been well managed, I said it's a clusterfuck but everything you've ought up shows that it could have been done better. Electric car's are expensive to buy and don't travel long distances yet, trains can.
If you built it on existing lines then no need to rip up any countryside.
It would have been better doing the whole mainline for both coasts.
Trains are too expensive here because they're owned by European state operators who use our extortionate prices to subsidise fares, nationalise them.
How the hell can you reduce people travelling?
We’re so shit at infrastructure in this country.
They have further to go - saving 20 mins getting to London from Brum is wasted on the first cup of coffee - we live 1.5 hours from St Andrews and therefore not that different from the new HS2 stadium - still quicker for me to go South in the car and park - jump on the tube
London does alright but the state being involved in TFL doesn’t matter I swear itWe’re so shit at infrastructure in this country.
Not that I believe this stadium will happen but if it did would love something like this... Orlando SC stadium 25,000. Construction cost $155m though...
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Some broadly stadium related info:
1. Paper from Warwick DC on site of a new Cov South railway station. This has some other general info about plans to develop land around UoW WCCC-2066277159-1388 (warwickshire.gov.uk)
2. Image of proposed 'Very Light Rail' route map
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A lot of the US soccer stadiums are crappy metal framed/almost temporary structures. Good to see this one isn't.
Not saying it's always a bad thing. San Jose's ground is rickety but good (longest outdoor bar in the US). Red Bull Arena is good. Just a shame the footy is in the main pretty shit.
I'm not sure if that would work. How would spectators in the stadium see people running around the outside of it? Still at least it wouldn't be around the pitchA lot of the US soccer stadiums are crappy metal framed/almost temporary structures. Good to see this one isn't.
One risk with the University approach is the fact that I'd imagine they would want a stadium with a running track around it..........
I hope you are watching these days, but the quality has risen a lot in the last few years. Lot more money being pumped into the rosters beyond just big name stars. The league is starting to poach a lot of quality talent from South America.
I would put the league average team pretty much on par with Cov. There are teams, like San Jose, that I think Cov would beat more often than not. But I don't think Cov would manage well at all against the top teams like LAFC, Columbus, and Toronto.
I'm not sure if that would work. How would spectators in the stadium see people running around the outside of it? Still at least it wouldn't be around the pitch.
I can't open the documents for some reason. Do they mention a new stadium specifically?
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