New stadium - Okay, let's just suppose for a moment (20 Viewers)

play_in_skyblue_stripes · Dec 30, 2014

Obviously no-one who goes to Ricoh Arena is a scab. Coventry City playing in city of Coventry is clearly right unlike last season's disgraceful location.
The main factors I see for low crowds at Ricoh are threefold.
1) total disillusionment with the off-field situation that SISU have created
2) total disillusionment with the on-field situation that SISU have caused
3) overall Coventry City fans are fickle

bigfatronssba · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
Last 2 games - when Leeds are as least as shit as we are if not much worse...

Leeds V Fulham 13th December - 27, 264
Leeds v Wigan 26th December - 28,375

Go fuck yourself

So by "each week" you meant 2 games?

Leeds average attendance is currently 23305.

So your wrong.

LB87ccfc · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh only lost 16,000 fans not 17,000 then. Thats ok.

This is because their was a bandwagon following , then we dropped to the hardcore, with new owners, and a hint of success on the pitch, the fans would turn up in their droves.

bigfatronssba · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh only lost 16,000 fans not 17,000 then. Thats ok.

Stop digging a hole. You were wrong, accept it and move on.

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

LB87ccfc said:
But Leeds are not worse than us are they.. Tit

for the division they play in they are.

turlykerd · Dec 30, 2014

League one

Largest Attendance
Coventry City
Gillingham
27,306
Lowest Attendance
Coventry City
Preston North End
1,006

I think there is a fan base there , but because of many factors it's being eroded .

I also think SISU would just build it where ever they could but it's a hypothetical question as it's not happening .

As far as the name calling on this thread ... Grow up guys

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

LB87ccfc said:
This is because their was a bandwagon following , then we dropped to the hardcore, with new owners, and a hint of success on the pitch, the fans would turn up in their droves.

you said that would happen when we got back to the Ricoh -

Nick · Dec 30, 2014

Not being funny, it could be next to the cathedral but if it was SISU doing it people would find a reason to be against it wouldn't they?

Too many polish people building it, not enough sand in the concrete.....

RFC · Dec 30, 2014

mrtrench said:
SISU would have to invest heavily - something that they have proven that they don't want to do since their original foolhardy lump sum. Hence I think that they should be very careful before committing, especially after the Sixfields fiasco. Hence I think that they would want to ask fans and only proceed if they thought that they would get significant numbers. Having said that, they don't seem to have been acting in a logical way so far - arrogance mixed with incompetence is my take. Hence if (massive if) they ever did press ahead it could well be without any material consultation which could backfire on them again. Who could they sue then?

Sorry but "investing heavily" is NOT the answer?

In fact it's the main reason we are where we are now!

Spending money we hadn't got and getting ourselves into such debt, the Club almost went out of existence.

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Stop digging a hole. You were wrong, accept it and move on.

Yep I was wrong - you were right, its all wasps fault we dropped 16,000 fans.

bigfatronssba · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
Yep I was wrong - you were right, its all wasps fault we dropped 16,000 fans.

I didn't say who's fault it was, just that the statement of "we had under 10k before wasps was mentioned" is wrong.

LB87ccfc · Dec 30, 2014

RFC said:
Sorry by "investing heavily" is NOT the answer?

In fact it's the main reason we are where we are now!

Spending money we hadn't got and getting ourselves into such debt, the Club almost went out of existence.

Ok whatever you say Tim

Mr T - Sukka! · Dec 30, 2014

There is no evidence of any new stadium.

Until there is any concrete evidence then the majority wont be on board. Simple really.

Ashdown · Dec 30, 2014

I'd say a crowd of over 10,000 on a freezing cold December day just after Xmas when the owners are a complete bunch of shits and the team has been awful all season is quite good all told !
New stadium......nah, won't happen, it's all part of the usual lies and bullshit to spin things out while SISU bide their time for the court action. Even they wouldn't be stupid enough to knock up some meccano fairyland somewhere in Bedworth and expect to make a profit out of it !

chiefdave · Dec 30, 2014

It's down to SISU to present an argument that a move is required. If they say this is what we're being offered at the Ricoh, this is the alternative with a new ground and it clearly shows the new ground is a better option (and their statements stand up to scrutiny) why wouldn't any fan back them? The ones that moan will most likely be the ones that don't go now as it's too hard to get to / can't park / seats are blue etc etc.

Of course for most people there will be a cut off point where the ground is too far out of the city. I'd be fine with Bermuda or Warwick Uni for example but if it's Leamington or the NEC then I'd have to seriously consider if I would still go.

LB87ccfc · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
you said that would happen when we got back to the Ricoh -

Which it did we had x 27 more than our gates at shitfields which you loved.

Now the fans refuse to come back due to the entertainment on the pitch being poor due to numerous factors, number 1 being your pals c**t and c**t 2 lying out their arses to the fanbase constantly and producing no funds whatsoever to actually PURCHASE a player for HARD CASH instead destroying the team at every opportunity and replacing the squad with players who are just desperate to earn a living but you revel in all this shite don't you.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 30, 2014

turlykerd said:
League one

Largest Attendance
Coventry City
Gillingham
27,306
Lowest Attendance
Coventry City
Preston North End
1,006

I think there is a fan base there , but because of many factors it's being eroded .

I also think SISU would just build it where ever they could but it's a hypothetical question as it's not happening .

As far as the name calling on this thread ... Grow up guys

They only turn up for the one off games, the fan base isn't there.

Travs · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
you said that would happen when we got back to the Ricoh -

You're trying to spark debate with people who use such witty banter as 'shitfields' in every conversation, and anyone who doesn't agree with them is called 'tim'...

fuck em..... let them believe that by sitting on their arses at home they are protesting.....

p.s. Leeds' protests will be better because they won't be piss-poorly organised, and because their fan base (as a whole) is passionate rather than apathetic.

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

LB87ccfc said:
Which it did we had x 27 more than our gates at shitfields which you loved.

Now the fans refuse to come back due to the entertainment on the pitch being poor due to numerous factors, number 1 being your pals c**t and c**t 2 lying out their arses to the fanbase constantly and producing no funds whatsoever to actually PURCHASE a player for HARD CASH instead destroying the team at every opportunity and replacing the squad with players who are just desperate to earn a living but you revel in all this shite don't you.

28 thousand went to Gillingham and the very next fucking week only a third of that could be bothered to turn up to our next game. Will never understand that.

Ashdown · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
28 thousand went to Gillingham and the very next fucking week only a third of that could be bothered to turn up to our next game. Will never understand that.

Wasps are about to experience the very same phenomenon ! Generally Coventry people only turn up in numbers for a big event................but then they have had 15 years of decline in our main teams. Truth is SISU and their proclamations and lies are driving people elsewhere. All folk want is a semblance of a chance of success !

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

Ashdown said:
Wasps are about to experience the very same phenomenon ! Generally Coventry people only turn up in numbers for a big event................but then they have had 15 years of decline in our main teams. Truth is SISU and their proclamations and lies are driving people elsewhere. All folk want is a semblance of a chance of success !

Not sure I ever base my support on the "proclamations of the owners" - they are all usually chancers or bullshitters in my experieince. Support is a lot more fundamental than that - you go because you go. If you choose not to then fine as well, but please dont justify it by blaming anyone else.

Some seasons at the RSC re shit - Im not going to fork out for the fucking Winters Tale or Pericles or a Russian version of Cymbeline but I dont BLAME the owners of the RSC do I?

Astute · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
"YOU ARE" would be better if you cant understand basic grammar rules.

First rule of being an ass and picking up on faults of grammar. Make sure you get your own right. ...unless you want to explain why you used the word CANT.

italiahorse · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
Yeah ok - they say they love it but dont fucking go to it.

The city faithful are the season ticket holders like myself. Committed for a whole season regardless.
There are less than 10,000 of us and that has been the case for many years.

I have not been asked my opinion by Sisu on a new stadium to which I object solely on financial risk to the clubs future.
That financial risk will be raised the further from Coventry it is built and if it is not PL standard people will be driven away by the lack of ambition.
I want to see in detail why the Ricoh can't work because Wasps may be interested in helping if Sisu ask.
Once they show us that's not the case then we can all push for a new stadium. But that would also need to be shown to be a better option than any Ricoh deal.

Continue to feed me bullshit and they can get on with it themselves.

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

Astute said:
First rule of being an ass and picking up on faults of grammar. Make sure you get your own right. ...unless you want to explain why you used the word CANT.

sorry, I meant C-UNIT.

torchomatic · Dec 30, 2014

I for one hope the new stadium isn't a figment of Fisher's fevered imagination but a reality. The Ricoh was soulless before, but since Wasps appeared it's bloody awful. Particularly galling are those massive Wasps badges inside with our badge printed on a bit of A3 and stuck on with sellotape.

Samo · Dec 30, 2014

Otis said:
Let's say for arguments stake Sisu come out and announce that land has been secured. They let it be
known the location and then they ask fans for their views. The ground is 6 miles away.

The majority of fans say they will not attend once it is built and don't support the location selected.

What would Sisu do? What would they do if the fans opposed the location of the new stadium? Seems logical that it has been really difficult to secure any loaction (that's if of course they have indeed been looking).

Just wonder what our owners would do if they knew they were going to lose thousands and thousands more supporters because of the location not backed by the City faithful?

Would then then blame the fans? Look for another location? Focus on the Ricoh? Fook off? Or will they just say 'here's the location, take it or leave it?'

:thinking about:

I have never believed for a moment that Sisu intended to build but right now I hope they do and I never have to set foot in the Ricoh again. If the new stadium were just outside Cov it wouldn't bother me particularly, let's face it with one strong gust of wind the Ricoh would be in Nuneaton! I don't think for a second that anything we say will make any difference if they ask at all. They know that with a little success, fans will return and new fans will emerge. Its a big catchment area with loads of potential. There will come a day when this whole sorry mess will be a distant memory and young CCFC fans will support their team wherever the pitch is located.

Astute · Dec 30, 2014

AndreasB said:
sorry, I meant C-UNIT.

Why is it all about you all the time?

torchomatic · Dec 30, 2014

And how does our future look if we stay at the Ricoh with zero income?

italiahorse said:
I have not been asked my opinion by Sisu on a new stadium to which I object solely on financial risk to the clubs future.

torchomatic · Dec 30, 2014

Absolutely right. And maybe in 2264 we can move back to the Ricoh?

Samo said:
There will come a day when this whole sorry mess will be a distant memory and young CCFC fans will support their team wherever the pitch is located.

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

Astute said:
Why is it all about you all the time?

ooh cheeky, still love you though.

Nick · Dec 30, 2014

italiahorse said:
The city faithful are the season ticket holders like myself. Committed for a whole season regardless.
There are less than 10,000 of us and that has been the case for many years.

I have not been asked my opinion by Sisu on a new stadium to which I object solely on financial risk to the clubs future.
That financial risk will be raised the further from Coventry it is built and if it is not PL standard people will be driven away by the lack of ambition.
I want to see in detail why the Ricoh can't work because Wasps may be interested in helping if Sisu ask.
Once they show us that's not the case then we can all push for a new stadium. But that would also need to be shown to be a better option than any Ricoh deal.

Continue to feed me bullshit and they can get on with it themselves.

Surely it would make no sense financially to build a whopping great big stadium for the PL while we are in League One? Surely you would build it with expansion and growth in mind to make it easily upgradeable during a close season if we got promoted.

You keep going on about Wasps being interested to help and your figures but in all honesty it is just feeding as much bullshit.

You are saying it would make sense to build a PL standard stadium straight away to fit 12,000 fans in on a good day?

AndreasB · Dec 30, 2014

torchomatic said:
And how does our future look if we stay at the Ricoh with zero income?

looks ok for Italia I think

Nick · Dec 30, 2014

torchomatic said:
And how does our future look if we stay at the Ricoh with zero income?

The same as we keep hearing about why Wasps had to move I guess from the same people who are saying we have to stay at the Ricoh and Rent off Wasps...

Samo · Dec 30, 2014

torchomatic said:
Absolutely right. And maybe in 2264 we can move back to the Ricoh?

Yes, although I don't think that 'we' will be you and I.

bigfatronssba · Dec 30, 2014

Nick said:
Surely it would make no sense financially to build a whopping great big stadium for the PL while we are in League One? Surely you would build it with expansion and growth in mind to make it easily upgradeable during a close season if we got promoted.

You keep going on about Wasps being interested to help and your figures but in all honesty it is just feeding as much bullshit.

You are saying it would make sense to build a PL standard stadium straight away to fit 12,000 fans in on a good day?

Overall it costs less to build a big stadium than it does to build a small, and then expanded stadium.

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