Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
So what is the point in quoting him then?
If you don't believe him, none of us believed him, the council didn't believe him then why would they have to act against the football club on something nobody believed.
So what is the point in quoting him then?No
No
I am not sure if you are trying to defend them but missing the point and making it worse?
we’re going round in circles.
sisu need to drop the court cases and go. once that happenes Ccfc will be at the Ricoh and start again. put all this mess behind us.
The local tax payer will be in a worse position if tens of thousands of people visiting the city and bringing revenue each year no longer need to because there is no football club there.the council have a duty to act in the best interest of the local tax payer. NOT a privately owned profit making hedge fund who renaged on a legally binding tenancy agreement !
You’re right, and Wasps need to fuck off back to London aswellwe’re going round in circles.
sisu need to drop the court cases and go. once that happenes Ccfc will be at the Ricoh and start again. put all this mess behind us.
Don’t think that makes much of a difference to the question being asked of him.The Council has met already with the Sky Blue Trust – but not the Football Club. A former Labour colleague of George Duggins is John Fletcher, who was Labour Council leader from 1996 to 1999 and is on the board of the Sky Blue Trust. Is Mr Fletcher willing to use his position and many contacts in the Council to help arrange a meeting between his former colleagues and the Football Club to help it remain at the Ricoh Arena?
John Fletcher hasnt been on the trust board for a long time
That is not going to solve the problem of returning the club to stability. Everyone is surely fed up of these games with the future or even existance of the club now. All the parties need to make a lasting peace and agree a sensible deal.No, only you seem to be going round in circles in this thread?
It's fairly simple, if any side has bullshitted in all of this then they should be called out for it regardless of who it is.
Which is why it's so frustrating when someone who isn't sisu gets told to do a deal people just deflect to sisu.That is not going to solve the problem of returning the club to stability. Everyone is surely fed up of these games with the future or even existance of the club now. All the parties need to make a lasting peace and agree a sensible deal.
No but I doubt the games would get as far if they were all called out from the start rather than siding with certain ones to try and get at others.That is not going to solve the problem of returning the club to stability. Everyone is surely fed up of these games with the future or even existance of the club now. All the parties need to make a lasting peace and agree a sensible deal.
we’re going round in circles.
sisu need to drop the court cases and go. once that happenes Ccfc will be at the Ricoh and start again. put all this mess behind us.
Wasps know how SISU operate as do we all. They're built on litigation and court cases and put that statement out knowing SISU wouldn't and won't drop the legals so that people say as you have and make them appear to have no fault in this.
You have to question therefore what their agenda is? I assume they're frightened of losing the court case and if they do, then it proves despite all of SISU's failings to our club, that in this instance, legally they were right all along. Wasps received help from the Council to spite them and an out of town franchise given preferential treatment and a superb facility at an under-valued price at the expense of the Coventry tax holder. We paid more in rental income in the preceding years than their bill to own and generate profit from.
Quite where this leaves CCFC of course is anyone's guess as SISU couldn't care less about us either and we're merely a pawn in their game. Pleased with regards the statement that the council are being held to task over things too.
This is the key thing. The argument that Fisher bullshits is irrelevant unless you think the standard a public body should be held to is the same as a Caymen hedge fund.Thing is, the council have said that it must be a condition of sale that we must be able to play our games. A public body has to be careful with statements like that.
we’re going round in circles.
sisu need to drop the court cases and go. once that happenes Ccfc will be at the Ricoh and start again. put all this mess behind us.
This is the key thing. The argument that Fisher bullshits is irrelevant unless you think the standard a public body should be held to is the same as a Caymen hedge fund.
Now we all know they said it, that can’t be walked back. The question becomes what did they do to ensure it happened.
It’s all well and good people now saying there’s no way such a condition can be present but that being the case it should have been explained at the time.
Very silly on the part of the council. By this point they were well aware what SISU were like and should have been careful what they were saying. I suspect the issue was they were concern the sale would be objected to if people feared for the football clubs future.
There isn’t many things that I dislike more than people who side with wasps over Coventry city football club just because they hate sisu , they should be put on the same register as nonces .... cunts
I agree with your sentiment, but unfortunately that isnt going to stand up in court.And letting the 130 year old football club that has brought millions to the economy die is in their best interests?
Owners come and go. Football clubs don’t
I agree with your sentiment, but unfortunately that isnt going to stand up in court.
It's why they just repeat the same lines over and over "It woz SISU". Yeah we know SISU are cunts and they should get everything they deserve too but it doesn't mean others can act like it and get away with it but just hide behind the SISU line everytime.
I’m not trying to defend the council at all, they have their part to blame in this situation. But over 95% of coventry’s Council tax payers do not attend the Ricoh regularly. Could you imagine the uproar that would happen if the council had to make further cuts in public spending, or announced more job cuts while at the same time funding an empty stadium?I am not sure if you are trying to defend them but missing the point and making it worse?
I’m not trying to defend the council at all, they have their part to blame in this situation. But over 95% of coventry’s Council tax payers do not attend the Ricoh regularly. Could you imagine the uproar that would happen if the council had to make further cuts in public spending, or announced more job cuts while at the same time funding an empty stadium?
Of course, the football team doesn't just affect those who attend. There's a positive link to identity and wellbeing within a community, as well.I’m not trying to defend the council at all, they have their part to blame in this situation. But over 95% of coventry’s Council tax payers do not attend the Ricoh regularly. Could you imagine the uproar that would happen if the council had to make further cuts in public spending, or announced more job cuts while at the same time funding an empty stadium?
THIS!
the council have acted in a terrible way. no regard at all for the club.. And what little regard they , at the time, appeared to show - by saying the club's home would be safe for them as part of the deal - they are now saying they never said ( or at least it was only for four years )
Are SISU bad news , and contributing to this saga, we all want them gone as soon as possible - YES
Are the council telling also to blame here and need calling out for their terrible behaviour, which has contributed to where we are today - YES
Its not one OR the other... its both!!!
But there WILL be a football club here, Timmy said so !!!The local tax payer will be in a worse position if tens of thousands of people visiting the city and bringing revenue each year no longer need to because there is no football club there.
The shocking hit to Swansea's economy when it stops being a Premier League city
Football clubs are great for the economy.
The loss of what football club?It kind of would if the impact on the economy of a local shop is deemed more than the loss of a football club.
I don't get your point. Nobody beieves what he says. I expect to believe what elected representatives say and if they lie then they should be held to account.But there WILL be a football club here, Timmy said so !!!
AND they’ll have a nice new stadium!!!
Honestly, it’s as if some people on here don’t believe a word he says!!!
The loss of what football club?
When the announcement was made to sell the Ricoh to wasps, the club was going to have a new ground within the city!
So no loss of revenue, no impact to the local economy, just an empty Ricoh.
You can’t use hindsite, to slate the decision to sell.
If you genuinely believed at the time of the sale that Fisher would get a new ground sorted I would urge you to seek medical help.The loss of what football club?
When the announcement was made to sell the Ricoh to wasps, the club was going to have a new ground within the city!
So no loss of revenue, no impact to the local economy, just an empty Ricoh.
You can’t use hindsite, to slate the decision to sell.
Unfortunately, believing it or not dosnt matter, sisu will be shafted in court by their own previous statements. THAT will be the legal argument, mine or your opinion on who was telling porkies won’t matter a jot.If you genuinely believed at the time of the sale that Fisher would get a new ground sorted I would urge you to seek medical help.
Unfortunately, believing it or not dosnt matter, sisu will be shafted in court by their own previous statements. THAT will be the legal argument, mine or your opinion on who was telling porkies won’t matter a jot.
The council will say, they made a business decision based on the public statements made by sisu. End of court case.
That statement is insane. I like it a lot.
We all know SISU are cunts but I'm so sick of the council and wasps getting away with everything.
I cannot get my head around people that defend wasps so much. Whilst they aren't to blame the most, if your wife cheated on you, would you go and have some beers with the bloke that shagged her? The council are definitely well up to their necks in this, but then again, people refuse to blame them because they're against sisu...
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