Correct it's ridiculous to consider offering failed players new deals.
The other factor is who we can get rid of who are contracted. Reid, turnball, Beavon, K Thomas and jones are on deals and the first three likely to be big earners by league two standards.
They will eat into the budget big time so the notion we'd be able to waste money resigning the likes of Bigi Burge and Haynes is nonsense.
I'd offer stokes a deal but any other out of contract player should go. I suspect he will sign Clarke. I'd actively try and move Reid on as we need his wages on more committed players.
I agree he has come on but he is still off the pace, he is a 100% trier and we all love a trier but I don't see him creating anything he is like a poor mans Telfer and I couldn't stand himThink he's really come on last 4 weeks. All about opinions though
Clarke seems to win pretty much everything in the air.
I would definitely keep him and hope we can secure another Rawson from somewhere. Those two seem to work well together.
I think they would let us keep Rawson on a season long loanOnly Clarke I would have thought. Would have thought no chance on Rawson or Reilly.
Is that accurate Grendel?The wage bill this season was around £1.7 million
You would assume next season it would hover around £1 million to £1.2
If we are saddled with the contracted players we have it would leave very little room for manoeuvre in terms of new recruits - renewing out of contract players on existing wages is s non starter. I wonder how much reids wages would be as a percentage of the total bill next year -- too much
Is that accurate Grendel?
If so it is around the level I've suggested and not the one quoted by Venus @£2.1M.
Nor mid table as suggested by Fisher in Saturdays Sky interview, a reduction of around 25%season on season and on rising turnover.
What on earth has Fisher been playing at /with?
The wage bill this season was around £1.7 million
You would assume next season it would hover around £1 million to £1.2
If we are saddled with the contracted players we have it would leave very little room for manoeuvre in terms of new recruits - renewing out of contract players on existing wages is s non starter. I wonder how much reids wages would be as a percentage of the total bill next year -- too much
Not sure why it should be that low they are about to bank half a million plus next week and they have around a million pound of players to sell plus season ticket sales. For people like Haynes they will have to offer him a deal that is at least the same to get any compensation if he goes.
Is that accurate Grendel?
If so it is around the level I've suggested and not the one quoted by Venus @£2.1M.
Nor mid table as suggested by Fisher in Saturdays Sky interview, a reduction of around 25%season on season and on rising turnover.
What on earth has Fisher been playing at /with?
The club has several senior players that will still require payment through the summer when there is no income. That will eat into all the Wembley money and a fair proportion any fees we get.
So it wasn't rising wages as we've been told.Well you know what Fisher is like, listen carefully to the words he used the figure he was quoting may not be for the budget that you were thinking of.
Kieran Crowley has used the £1.7M figure on twitter.
That was the purported figure for Mowbray last season.I think the quoted budget was actually around £2.3 but it's a ceiling not an indication of spend. It's why endless arguments around budget is pointless.
When are they paid until is it the end of May?
So it wasn't rising wages as we've been told.
Wage inflation,the exact term used.
What would be the motivation?
Not to make some invalid headline that we're profitable surely
£2.3M......... Top Eight.
£2.1.............Top twelve
£1.7M.......... Bottom Eight?
Maybe the difference between that and last year's budget leaves Joy free to not provide the 'Backstop' funding Fisher referenced on Saturday?
Turnbull is still under contract for 2 more years!Players you would keep and what you would sign.....
I would send both Burge and RCC out on loan with a recall option. I would sign a experienced keeper.
I would have Corey on the bench. However if there was an injury I would recal Burge or RCC.
I would keep DKE as first choice RB
I would sign a no nonense experienced hard man CB
I would play Stokes beside him if we can keep him.
I would have Harries as back up and a loanee
I would keep Haynes if that possible and Stokes as his cover. However I would consider a loanee if he got a long term injury.
I think we will sell Willis.
I think we will sell Stevenson
I would keep Bigi
I would try and get Reilly (unlikely I Know)
I would keep Jones if possible
I would keep Reid if possible
I would keep Beavon if possible
I would let Ruben go.
I would keep both Thomas' if possible
I would sign a powerful striker
A hard man midfielder
A creative midfielder
Another 2 wingers.
I would let Foley Clarke Tudguy Turnball Vlad go
The rest would come from the development teams
Turnbull is still under contract for 2 more years!
What intrigues me is that it's been cut twice on rising turnover and has been around 40% of the 60% allowed and now this season according to this figure would be around 30%.Sheffield United is £5million.
Why they are top of the league.
You talk like we are the only Club that have no income coming in over the summer, that's the second time you have mentioned it in this thread alone.Players on longer contracts need paying all summer and there will be other staff bills costs to bear with no revenue coming in
You talk like we are the only Club that have no income coming in over the summer, that's the second time you have mentioned it in this thread alone.
Shouldn't that be factored in when the playing budget comes out or is it an extra?
After all, we all expect to get holiday pay unless we are self employed.
It's nothing to do with budgets. It's an issue of balancing payments and avoiding cash flow. The same issue if the club was operating on a fan based model.
Keep - one of Burge and Charles-Cook to contest with an older keeper for the spot
Keep - Willis, Kelly-Evans, Stokes, Haynes, Harries, Clarke
Go -Turnbull, Foley
Keep - Bigi, Stevenson, Jones, Reid
Go - Gadzhev, Finch, Rose
Not sure - Lameiras
Keep - Beavon, Kwame Thomas, George Thomas, Conor Thomas, Tank Engine Thomas
Go - Tudgay, Yakubu
i agree with most of those. still think haynes and lameries have a alot to prove
think we have a good 8 or 9 players worth keeping though that will do well under robins. such a shame majority of this season been under venus and slade, but hey i getting back to prem from league 2 is even more of a story lol
How are you going to offer out of contract players enough money and recruit other players? Average league two wage is £40,000 a year.
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