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  • Start date Dec 19, 2022
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wingy

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #36
Macca said:
That’s interesting (not arguing here) as my wife has just moved from 22 years in NHS to a private health company dealing with sub contracted NHS patients. She finds that there is a far leaner management structure
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Yes but would that be because there's a more structured programme of what they take on such as knee's etc?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #37
Wouldn’t private providers be a lot smaller too?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #38
shmmeee said:
Wouldn’t private providers be a lot smaller too?
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They're smaller as they have much much narrower remits, a private health provider subcontracting elective work has no other obligations other than the work it is contracted to do. It's unlike the NHS which has an obligation to anybody that is brought through the door.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #39
Just at A&E with my wife and her mum , doing tests on her mum to rule out a suspected stroke . Been here since 7am , staff are running round like blue arsed flys
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #40
wingy said:
Not sure how busy it is these days but there is the drop in centre at the bottom of Stoney Stanton .. Maybe they could still make more of that .
Just for the generalized stuff .
Open up to 10pm and weekends too
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I went there once, went for when it opened on a Saturday morning but still had to wait for a couple of hours. Saw a doctor who sent me to the hospital with a hand written letter as its run by Virgin Health and their system isn't compatible with the one at the hospital

The walk in centres are a good idea but there needs to be more of them and they need to be staffed so you aren't waiting hours. If you've got to drive across town and then wait around for ages people will just head to A&E

Same with 111, good idea but all they do is tell you to go to the hospital or walk in centre
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #41
Nick said:
Exactly.

Should be doing everything they can to make sure A&E is a last resort.
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The plan 7 or 8 years ago was to make pharmacies a go to for minor things to take the pressure off Doctors and A&E and then, as expected (except it wasn't expected and announced totally out of the blue) Tory funding cuts (12% followed by 7.4% the next year) stopped that idea after many pharmacies spent money fitting themselves out for it.

That idea is coming back around though I believe.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #42
Nick said:
Exactly.

Should be doing everything they can to make sure A&E is a last resort.
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That's what they have been doing, hence the creation of 111, walk in centres, urgent care centres, urgent treatment centres etc. It all is pointless as ultimately it isn't addressing the underlying capacity issues in acute, primary and adult social care.

There are significantly less GPs now than there were in 2010.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #43
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Just at A&E with my wife and her mum , doing tests on her mum to rule out a suspected stroke . Been here since 7am , staff are running round like blue arsed flys
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Best of luck Daz, hopefully it's not as serious as feared.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #44
hill83 said:
The plan 7 or 8 years ago was to make pharmacies a go to for minor things to take the pressure off Doctors and A&E and then, as expected (except it wasn't expected and announced totally out of the blue) Tory funding cuts (12% followed by 7.4% the next year) stopped that idea after many pharmacies spent money fitting themselves out for it.

That idea is coming back around though I believe.
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You can do that still though for a lot of stuff. There needs to be more public information campaigns about what you can go for. A lot of people are in the mindset of GP or A&E and nothing else. 111 is completely pointless as well, just always says go to A&E to cover themselves.
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #45
shmmeee said:
You can do that still though for a lot of stuff. There needs to be more public information campaigns about what you can go for. A lot of people are in the mindset of GP or A&E and nothing else. 111 is completely pointless as well, just always says go to A&E to cover themselves.
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Yes you can, it was planned to be a lot more than it ended up being though.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #46
shmmeee said:
You can do that still though for a lot of stuff. There needs to be more public information campaigns about what you can go for. A lot of people are in the mindset of GP or A&E and nothing else. 111 is completely pointless as well, just always says go to A&E to cover themselves.
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TBF once you introduce various options it just seems like a dilution.
Starting to be a self help project isn't really the answer.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #47
hill83 said:
The plan 7 or 8 years ago was to make pharmacies a go to for minor things to take the pressure off Doctors and A&E and then, as expected (except it wasn't expected and announced totally out of the blue) Tory funding cuts (12% followed by 7.4% the next year) stopped that idea after many pharmacies spent money fitting themselves out for it.

That idea is coming back around though I believe.
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As long as they can sign prescriptions for antibiotics, seemed to be prone to chest or upper tract infections when I was much younger.
It became obvious what they were and thoroughly frustrating going through all the rigmarole of getting the appointment and wasting GP time.
Good old Amoxacyllin or tetracycline.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #48
This may be over simplifying things but wouldn't it be a good idea to have these other options based at the same location as A&E. Turn up, have a fully staffed and qualified reception team who spend a couple of minutes finding out what's wrong and direct you to the correct service
 
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Macca

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #49
wingy said:
Yes but would that be because there's a more structured programme of what they take on such as knee's etc?
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Not sure I mean it’s strictly orthopaedic both adults and children and the size although a large company with circa 300 staff is clearly not NHS comparable. Was just really an observation from her that the layers of management in NHS was ludicrous
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #50
clint van damme said:
Best of luck Daz, hopefully it's not as serious as feared.
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Thankfully not a stroke , she’s being kept in overnight for an assessment by the nureology team tomorrow. I’ve worked in the Nhs for the last 12 years and have been in and out of A&E quite a lot through my job but can honestly say I’ve never seen anything like it today . The staff were ran off there feet people were leaving as they hadn’t been seen which then asks the question did they need to be there . The nhs is broken and the staff are doing a remarkable job in my opinion
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #51
ImIf anyone has to go to walsgrave over the next few weeks be careful according to one of the nurses I was talking to there has been a COVID outbreak over the last couple of days
 

Otis

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #52
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
ImIf anyone has to go to walsgrave over the next few weeks be careful according to one of the nurses I was talking to there has been a COVID outbreak over the last couple of days
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I have just come back from there. Hopefully it was nowhere near Ward 20.

Or the staircase near Ward 20. Or the main entrance hall, M&S and WH Smiths, or the toilets by the pharmacy. Or the pharmacy.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 27, 2022
  • #53
Me dad was taken in last night , may need a pacemaker as he has an ectopic heartbeat. Running more tests on him at the minute
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 27, 2022
  • #54
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Me dad was taken in last night , may need a pacemaker as he has an ectopic heartbeat. Running more tests on him at the minute
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Good luck Daz. Best wishes.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 27, 2022
  • #55
Cheers mate , he has dementia as well so he’s needing a bit more reassurance and patience
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2022
  • #56
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Me dad was taken in last night , may need a pacemaker as he has an ectopic heartbeat. Running more tests on him at the minute
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Fucks sake mate, you're having no luck at the moment. Fingers crossed it all goes well.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 28, 2022
  • #57
me dads having a pacemaker fitted at some point today
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #58
Me dad had his pacemaker fitted yesterday and is on his way home , he looked brilliant today

God bless the nhs
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 29, 2022
  • #59
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Me dad had his pacemaker fitted yesterday and is on his way home , he looked brilliant today

God bless the nhs
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Great to hear, Daz.
 
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