He claims Ramage and Lorentzon did well on trail and in the u21s but both were shown up in the first team. Lorentzon, he claims, never made a tackle and was woefully out of position all the time. The realisation came that Ramage couldn't do it after the Southend game while Lorentzon's performance against Colchester convinced KC we had been "sold a pup"
To be fair Nick he probably said the lion and sheep comment after weeks of abuse that we didn't even know about. I mean death threats, jesus some people are just cretins.
I only hope that going forward in his career his advisors have learnt something about guiding him and shielding him from things like this, which will help him to learn not to react as well. He didn't deserve such abuse.
I wonder if Sweden just had a rightback crisis the time he got capped? It's a shame about Lorentzson, I was expecting Roland v.2.
Lotentzson didn't actually have a Sweden cap someone had edited his Wiki he had played for for a Sweden XI in some exhibition games in Thailand I think it was.
Is that definite? It's got him listed as starting a friendly against Finland here - http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football...lies/2013/sweden-finland_mtc597795/live.shtml
Wait never mind, it was part of the 'King's Cup' which sometimes includes club/invitational teams so it's not a proper international thing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_King's_Cup
Yep, me too.I wonder if Sweden just had a rightback crisis the time he got capped? It's a shame about Lorentzson, I was expecting Roland v.2.
Yep, me too.
I thought he looked comfortable on the ball and that his distribution was good. He did get caught out of position though and he wasn't endowed with pace either.
Very true about the lack of tackling, but I'm sure we have seen much worse at the club, even just in the past 5 years.
Taking up a loan slot that TM had a decent striker lined up for, which would have brought the goals that had dried up.
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To be honest I'm not sure why we agreed to keep him on loan. Was it simply just to soften the "blow" to fans? Mistake really to keep him. I wasn't too concerned we'd sold him.
Summary of what Crowley said:
- George Thomas needs more confidence in himself. Has all the talent - Joe Cole called him the most talented player at the club - but needs to believe in himself more and be selfish at times.
- Bury are going to have a fire sale this summer. Would have Leon Clarke back in an instant even though he's an interesting character, to say the least.
- The transfer plan is going to look at signing more players like Jodi Jones who are going up the leagues, rather than guys like Henderson/Ramage/Hunt who are going down the leagues.
- Ricketts will be a backup centre-back next year. Is being kept on for his off-field stuff, he's like a "defenders coach" and runs training sessions sometimes. An unofficial 'player-coach'. Tudgay is the same, but with the strikers.
- Lorentzson is one of the worst players he's ever seen at City. McGoldrick the best.
- Aaron Martin just isn't strong enough for Mowbray. Gets pushed off the ball too much for a CB.
- Steven Hunt was handled poorly, should've had an intense mini pre-season with the physios - a la Joe Cole - instead of just coming into normal training.
- Maddison transfer was the turning point. Cost us the chance to get a striker on loan. Club needed to take the money from Norwich.
- Maddison was badly affected by all the negative comments on social media from Coventry fans. Forced him to tears. Even was sent two death threats that the club had to report to police.
- JM10 is not some arrogant, cocky little twat at all, like he is made out to be by some. Is just a 19-year-old who struggled after going from local hero to hated for no reason overnight.
- Mowbray has been targeting players to sign for a month now.
- Says that this season was a learning curve for Mowbray, watching teams like Walsall and Burton thrive while Sheff UTD - with all their former higher league players - struggled.
I'm sure I've missed some out but that's the gist of it. The Maddison stuff was really eye-opening.
I'd take a chance on Roland v.1. Now !I wonder if Sweden just had a rightback crisis the time he got capped? It's a shame about Lorentzson, I was expecting Roland v.2.
The reaction to Maddison leaving, even on here, was unbelievable.
I've never seen a player's game so nitpicked apart on these boards before. There were always far worse players than Maddison in games and he (alongside Murphy at times) was made an uneccessary scapegoat.
Our fans are awful at times, I know all clubs have morons but picking on a 19 year old who came through the ranks and made the club a good chunk of money was very weird and came across as very bitter.
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But wasn't the loan limit the matchday squad or is there another limit of loans full stop? Surely he could have just not put loans like JM or bigi in the squad
So pretty much a confirmation there that Bigi is joining if we needed it.
KC also launched into the players who filmed a rap video in the dressing room last season whilst in the mix of a relegation battle. Sounded proper pissed off at them. ( I don't remember this or who it was)
KC had to teach Maddison to stop looking at his phone all the time. He's also had clubs watching him for the past three years.
Didn't get on with Andy Webster, had an argument after the Oldham 4-1 defeat last season when AW was captain but wouldn't face the media after the game, said he shunned all responsibilities.
Sounds like a decent lad who really had the players in check, Mowbray really liked and trusted him I think. Shame to see him go.
Nouble, Turgott, and a couple of others if i remember rightly
I struggled to see how he went from being "hacked down" to "diving" overnight. He wasn't doing much different to before his transfer.
Just like how it went from she said yes Marlon, to no, overnight?He was being paid by a different team.
Are we honestly playing dumb about football fans preferring players in their own side?
It was more that we stopped dressing up his diving and other quirks when he wasn't ours than we started making stuff up.
It's like your own kid vs someone else's of course their terrible behaviour is your child's "bad day" or whatever. That's human nature.
Still, never let a chance to feel superior to other City fans pass without comment eh guys?
That was after the Crawley game when we had stayed upWas Maddison in it? Or was that something else he was shouting "Squaaaaadddd" in?
Ah must be a different thing thenThat was after the Crawley game when we had stayed up
He was talking about the worst 11, I'm sure malaga would be in there with him.
He did say "one of the worst", not " is the worst"
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Upsets me reading that about Maddison. A young lad who's been with us for 13 years, has talent and goes off to play at a higher level for more money and he gets death threats. There's some absolute hypocritical thunder cunts out there.
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alan remembers Malaga..
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