No new stadium at Ryton (9 Viewers)

Spionkop · Oct 11, 2013

Shmmee, we'll have to disagree about potential of Highfield Road.
Nostalgic? No. It needed help I know.
Taking out the houses behind the main stand, was it Grantham Street? Would've made a huge difference. Ditto Nicholls Street. Liverpool are doing exactly that.
Apparently millions were spent on 'decontaminating' the Ricoh site. Money that could have been spent buying up houses at fair prices around the ground. I feel sure many residents would have been happy to move out of the club's shadow. But it's gone.
Yep, we sure could have found a better and central site.
Sisu are finding out. Absolutely. If they ever build it, will they come? Many will say - forget it.
Only Accrington and Dagenham currently have lower attendances than us. And Accrington are running us close.
The Butts would be just right at the minute.
Madness, utter madness.

skybluefred · Oct 11, 2013

The Butts was the only site worth considering when Highfield Road was sold.Yes it would have needed some demolition
in the surrounding area but that would not have been a major problem.But isn't it owned by CCC and would they have sold the freehold ???

shmmeee · Oct 11, 2013

Spionkop said:
Shmmee, we'll have to disagree about potential of Highfield Road.
Nostalgic? No. It needed help I know.
Taking out the houses behind the main stand, was it Grantham Street? Would've made a huge difference. Ditto Nicholls Street. Liverpool are doing exactly that.
Apparently millions were spent on 'decontaminating' the Ricoh site. Money that could have been spent buying up houses at fair prices around the ground. I feel sure many residents would have been happy to move out of the club's shadow. But it's gone.
Yep, we sure could have found a better and central site.
Sisu are finding out. Absolutely. If they ever build it, will they come? Many will say - forget it.
Only Accrington and Dagenham currently have lower attendances than us. And Accrington are running us close.
The Butts would be just right at the minute.
Madness, utter madness.

Can't say disagree with the last paragraph.

Regarding HR, you have to remember the question isn't "is it possible to expand" but "is it possible to expand and provide the facilities needed while meeting all relevant legislation about access, noise, etc etc.

Also Hillfields needed regeneration and football stadia stuck on residential streets don't tend to do wonders for house prices.

Personally I though gates of 13k stretched the infrastructure and that's before we get into the politics of kicking a bunch of families out of affordable accommodation that may have been in their possession for generations so that a few more City fans can watch us.

shy_tall_knight · Oct 11, 2013

Wolves Villa Blues & West Brom developed their stadiums and never moved, admittedly Highfield Road was in a very residential area like the old Baseball Ground and Filbert Street and Highbury who all moved away but quite near their old ground. The Brittania is one of the worst locations for a football ground in the middle of a characterless newly developed industrial estate. The Cobblers is another out of down souless development, Shrewsbury gets away with it cos there is nice scenery. On the whole the problem isn't with the stadiums its their locations.

skybluefred · Oct 11, 2013

shmmeee said:
Can't say disagree with the last paragraph.

Regarding HR, you have to remember the question isn't "is it possible to expand" but "is it possible to expand and provide the facilities needed while meeting all relevant legislation about access, noise, etc etc.

Also Hillfields needed regeneration and football stadia stuck on residential streets don't tend to do wonders for house prices.

Personally I though gates of 13k stretched the infrastructure and that's before we get into the politics of kicking a bunch of families out of affordable accommodation that may have been in their possession for generations so that a few more City fans can watch us.

AH BUT before the advent of all seater stadia we had crowds of 51,000 + on a couple of occasions and no problem with the area coping with the increased traffic.

bigfatronssba · Oct 11, 2013

shy_tall_knight said:
Wolves Villa Blues & West Brom developed their stadiums and never moved, admittedly Highfield Road was in a very residential area like the old Baseball Ground and Filbert Street and Highbury who all moved away but quite near their old ground. The Brittania is one of the worst locations for a football ground in the middle of a characterless newly developed industrial estate. The Cobblers is another out of down souless development, Shrewsbury gets away with it cos there is nice scenery. On the whole the problem isn't with the stadiums its their locations.

Difference with Wolves, Villa, Blues and West Brom was the housing around their ground was basically derelict. Aside from the social problems of the area, there is nothing wrong with the housing stock around HR. The same sort of houses go for over £120k in Earlsdon.

The Ricoh was never going to replace HR for that, but it was its modern successor just a couple of miles along the A444. Any new stadium out in the middle of nowhere will have nothing in common with HR.

bigfatronssba · Oct 11, 2013

skybluefred said:
AH BUT before the advent of all seater stadia we had crowds of 51,000 + on a couple of occasions and no problem with the area coping with the increased traffic.

I thought everyone walked to the football in those days?

shmmeee · Oct 11, 2013

skybluefred said:
AH BUT before the advent of all seater stadia we had crowds of 51,000 + on a couple of occasions and no problem with the area coping with the increased traffic.

Yes. But in the 21st century a large proportion want to drive, not walk. Lamentable as that may be.

Houdi · Oct 11, 2013

shmmeee said:
Well Warwick Uni has never wanted anything to do with Coventry.

I think we need a complete rethink on City Centers. Shopping and work are more diverse now. Should be a civic centre, maybe start with putting the stadium there? (aaand we're back on topic!)

The Skyscrapers Forum (Birmingham Metropolitan Area) is a great forum, where there is a near universal view that the Ring Road, 'celebrating' its 40th birthday has been the single biggest factor in 'killing dead' the city centre. It has provided a choke around the City, resulting in years of stagnation. No other major City in the UK has a ring road so close to its city centre like Coventry. Its great for getting people around the City, but has hugely contributed to us having a centre with no decent retail, and a non existent nightlife. Hopefully Friargate is the start of breaking the throttle around the City. Better late than never.

shy_tall_knight · Oct 11, 2013

The ring road is also very ugly in parts especially near the swimming pool. Coventry's traffic is superb compared to equivalent sized cities such as Leicester or Nottingham, I think this is mostly due to the ring road but agree it created a network of subways that made the place intimidating especially late at night also a precint shopping centre with shops that close early ensures its dead at 6.00.

Friargate will improve a part of it.

shmmeee · Oct 11, 2013

Houdi said:
The Skyscrapers Forum (Birmingham Metropolitan Area) is a great forum, where there is a near universal view that the Ring Road, 'celebrating' its 40th birthday has been the single biggest factor in 'killing dead' the city centre. It has provided a choke around the City, resulting in years of stagnation. No other major City in the UK has a ring road so close to its city centre like Coventry. Its great for getting people around the City, but has hugely contributed to us having a centre with no decent retail, and a non existent nightlife. Hopefully Friargate is the start of breaking the throttle around the City. Better late than never.

Well I know for a fact that that view has been held by people as high up as Leader of the Council as far back as the 90s, but convincing people it's worth the investment is I imagine another issue, especially when there's no development space to sell to commerce.

We should at least do something with it though. Let a few local artists loose on the coverings, bring some light and people under the underpasses and improve the bridges would be a start.

I did once hear about a crazy idea to turn it into a clock

simple_simon · Oct 11, 2013

What! We are giving a new stadium?

No one told me.

SkyblueBazza · Oct 11, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Otium Entertainment Group.. Be careful not to put to two and two together and come up wth five though.

Why not...most things don't add up with our owners

Jack Griffin · Oct 11, 2013

skybluefred said:
AH BUT before the advent of all seater stadia we had crowds of 51,000 + on a couple of occasions and no problem with the area coping with the increased traffic.

In the days when City had huge crowds very few people had a car.

RPHunt · Oct 11, 2013

Jack Griffin said:
In the days when City had huge crowds very few people had a car.

That's true, although in those days City played in Coventry.

Jack Griffin · Oct 11, 2013

RPHunt said:
That's true, although in those days City played in Coventry.

LOL yeah, that helped a lot..

BackRoomRummermill · Oct 11, 2013

oldskyblue58 said:
http://www.eventmagazine.co.uk/Business/article/1176666/Freeman-expands-Europe-SO-Group-purchase/

http://www.cvent.com/rfp/dallas-ser...ice-650b3dad9ad74b5cb6c93e77e739f6cb_167.aspx

this might help with some background on freemans who are building their HQ at ryton, expecting to employ 360 people

Project was announced on CWR this morning

Where does it say that in the links ............

Jack Griffin · Oct 11, 2013

BackRoomRummermill said:
Where does it say that in the links ............

Try this link http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/hundreds-jobs-created-firm-announces-6174878

BackRoomRummermill · Oct 11, 2013

Jack Griffin said:
Try this link http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/hundreds-jobs-created-firm-announces-6174878

That's great news for the area , very pleased and at last that site has some purpose. I was from Ryton and left in the mid 80's so am pleased that something good has happened since the poogeot shit bags seen off the good folk of Coventry . Thanks for the link

Jack Griffin · Oct 11, 2013

Link for Sainsburys move into Ansty http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sainsburys-london-staff-relocated-ansty-3313704

rightumpty · Oct 12, 2013

Does anyone seriously think these cowboys are going to spend £20m plus on a new stadium when they are already bleating about the debts incurred since administration. Be warned they will be the death of Coventry City Football Club unless someone stands up to them and forces them out.

SIR ERNIE · Oct 12, 2013

Are you lot seriously debating this?

SISU have no intention of building a stadium.

Never have had, never will.

James Smith · Oct 12, 2013

SIR ERNIE said:
Are you lot seriously debating this?

SISU have no intention of building a stadium.

Never have had, never will.

So where are we going to play if they're not going to do so? It is seemingly less likely that ACL are going to wait for us and that may scupper our chances of playing there if they "move on". So you're suggesting we could be stuck in Northampton for ever?

SIR ERNIE · Oct 13, 2013

James Smith said:
So where are we going to play if they're not going to do so? It is seemingly less likely that ACL are going to wait for us and that may scupper our chances of playing there if they "move on". So you're suggesting we could be stuck in Northampton for ever?[/QUOTE]

I'm not suggesting anything.

But one thing I'm certain about is that SISU will never build a new stadium.

They have no plans, no sites under review, no intention, no interest and most importantly no money.

They want the Ricoh for peanuts.

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