But its a weird middle ground. I mean ifollow is flakey when its a game we can legally watch here let alone when you add in VPNs. Just open it up and let those that want to pay to watch games. Removes any excuse for watching illegal streams. Its going to happen at some point so stop delaying the inevitable and denying yourself an income stream.Ultimately the clubs aren't going to push that hard, they still get a decent bit of income without the costs associated with it. It just isn't something they'd actively market.
Yeah, they have to follow the music business really, and accept the genie's out the bottle and they can't put it in, and at least try and manage it to their advantage as best they can. Also worth noting that bands make their money from touring nowadays rather than records, so it's clear the live experience won't necessarily suffer if you do that, and people will still want to go to the game itself if they can.But its a weird middle ground. I mean ifollow is flakey when its a game we can legally watch here let alone when you add in VPNs. Just open it up and let those that want to pay to watch games. Removes any excuse for watching illegal streams. Its going to happen at some point so stop delaying the inevitable and denying yourself an income stream.
I guess the deal with Sky is the blockerBut its a weird middle ground. I mean ifollow is flakey when its a game we can legally watch here let alone when you add in VPNs. Just open it up and let those that want to pay to watch games. Removes any excuse for watching illegal streams. Its going to happen at some point so stop delaying the inevitable and denying yourself an income stream.
I guess the deal with Sky is the blocker
They're well on the road to making the same mistake the music business made. Head in the sand and assume the problem with go away and by the time you face up to reality your product is completely devalued as everyone is used to getting it for free.Yeah, they have to follow the music business really, and accept the genie's out the bottle and they can't put it in, and at least try and manage it to their advantage as best they can.
Issues like that are often easy to resolve. Sky have exclusive rights to domestic cricket yet you can watch every ball of every country championship game for free on YouTube as well as some white ball games.I guess the deal with Sky is the blocker
They're well on the road to making the same mistake the music business made. Head in the sand and assume the problem with go away and by the time you face up to reality your product is completely devalued as everyone is used to getting it for free.
Music industry revenues are at their highest levels in decades and have been growing steadily for years. When your product is universally popular, there is almost always a way back.
You got a source for that?
Cheers, I notice they make the cut off the bottom of the trough. Revenue in the 90s was an order of magnitude higher before internet piracy came along:
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Its doing just fine because they've moved the goalposts. Instead of just revenue generated by music itself labels now routinely sign artists to 360 deals where they make money of the artists merchandise, touring and basically everything.Yeah, true. But I think the music industry faced a much greater challenge from piracy than football ever did/ever will, and it’s doing just fine.
Its doing just fine because they've moved the goalposts. Instead of just revenue generated by music itself labels now routinely sign artists to 360 deals where they make money of the artists merchandise, touring and basically everything.
Can't see that happening in football. Imagine signing a player who has a 7 figure deal with Nike and the club saying that's no longer the players money, it goes to the club!
Of course things bounce back but the longer you delay the inevitable the longer the dip and the harder it is to bounce back.
Fair enough, I've never heard of clubs taking the money players get for doing endorsements, advertising etc but if that's the case its still not really a reason to turn down another viable income stream.Football clubs already do make money off their “artists” merchandise, live performances, prize money etc, it’s their entire business model. A player’s contract with their team is as close to a 360 contract as you can get. The clubs have done great out of it.
Club doing a ticket offer for the Hull game but lots of ST holders not receiving an email? Waste of time if people don’t know about it @Sky Blue Pete
Fair enough, I've never heard of clubs taking the money players get for doing endorsements, advertising etc but if that's the case its still not really a reason to turn down another viable income stream.
IMO the longer they hold off on making games available legally the more people will find alternative ways of watching them and once people are doing that it becomes much harder to turn them into a paying customer if and when you do decide to make a legal option.
There's not a huge amount of data on this, anecdotally it doesn't seem to make much difference. For me the biggest thing would be more thought in the fixture scheduling so no massively long midweek trips.But you’ve nailed the issue with your second point. My worry is that the game is going to cater more and more towards the fans watching at home/overseas, to the detriment of the live match day experience.
Have asked Mark HornbyClub doing a ticket offer for the Hull game but lots of ST holders not receiving an email? Waste of time if people don’t know about it @Sky Blue Pete
My worry is that the game is going to cater more and more towards the fans watching at home/overseas, to the detriment of the live match day experience.
They made sure I got the renewal emailHave asked Mark Hornby
The answer I received wasThey made sure I got the renewal email
The answer I received was
Hi Pete
No worries, hope you're well.
Just spoke to our CRM Executive, who runs our emailing now. It was for all ST holders.
This will largely be down to them either not opting in to receive marketing emails from the Club or not having a valid/current email on their account. They can update their preferences and details on the eticketing website on their account.
Thanks
Mark
Mark Hornby
Head of Marketing & Communications
Coventry City Football Club
The answer I received was
Hi Pete
No worries, hope you're well.
Just spoke to our CRM Executive, who runs our emailing now. It was for all ST holders.
This will largely be down to them either not opting in to receive marketing emails from the Club or not having a valid/current email on their account. They can update their preferences and details on the eticketing website on their account.
Thanks
Mark
Mark Hornby
Head of Marketing & Communications
Coventry City Football Club
Me tooNot sure this is true. I’ve not had it but had marketing emails as recently as four days ago.
I’ve gone back to himMe too
Yes I had a ST renewal email last weekMe too
Hi PeteYes I had a ST renewal email last week
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