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Liquid Gold · Oct 23, 2019

Has to be said again they were absolutely useless.

Fleetwood goal miles offside with the lino well behind without a clue.
Another blatant handball penalty we've not been given.
Fouls when the ball is clearly won - for both teams.
No free kicks for blatant fouls - both teams.

They really need to work out a way to improve the level of officiating. Pay them a really health salary so people want to do the job but then analyse them in detail and punish them for errors. They should also be made to speak to the press after the game to explain why they've made their decisions.

MatthewWallis · Oct 23, 2019

Don’t understand it’s like anything below the premier league and they lose their vision

lord_garrincha · Oct 23, 2019

Thing is... goal not given = same old formation and 1 up top, and likely not 3pts.

Football is like that... shit officials making duff decisions... then it can turn around. Lets just enjoy a win!

ccfc1234 · Oct 23, 2019

There is an argument that VAR is needed more in lower levels given how inept some officials are.

Looked like offside and a penalty for handball.

SkyBlueDom26 · Oct 23, 2019

We need to make a complaint, they are fucking shite week in week out

shmmeee · Oct 23, 2019

It’s the total silence and wagon circling that bothers me. People would be a lot happier just knowing that that Lino is being spoken to or literally anything that accepts it was a fuck up. Instead it’s just silence then the fucker will do it again later in the season.

covmark · Oct 23, 2019

shmmeee said:
It’s the total silence and wagon circling that bothers me. People would be a lot happier just knowing that that Lino is being spoken to or literally anything that accepts it was a fuck up. Instead it’s just silence then the fucker will do it again later in the season.

Bang on.
Let's wheel these useless twats out and explain why they've made such ridiculously shit decisions.
I reckon decisions would improve.

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tigersb · Oct 23, 2019

Personally I'm quite ignorant of the rules
Evans might have been onside but the scorer was off when the ball was crossed
Did the fact the ball came off the post mean he was then onside?

Paul Anthony · Oct 23, 2019

It really is laughable how awful it is at this level. But, they keep getting away with it, so it'll never change. It amazes me how we always seem to get them.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 23, 2019

block16 said:
Good chance I’m being an idiot here but if the first fleetwood player to take the shot was onside then I think the second part is onside. They’re both behind the defence one on one with the keeper and therefore there’s no defender that the striker can actually pass behind meaning the lad that scored can’t be offside. Just a ‘sweaty goal’ that used the post. I might be totally fucking wrong though!

If he's ahead of his teammate he's still offside.

block16 · Oct 23, 2019

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If he's ahead of his teammate he's still offside.

Just looked at the footage yeah he’s ahead of the teammate - it is offside. Thought he was behind him when the shot was taken

MalcSB · Oct 23, 2019

block16 said:
If the first fleetwood player to take the shot was onside then I think the second part is onside. They’re both behind the defence one on one with the keeper and therefore there’s no defender that the striker can actually pass behind meaning the lad that scored can’t be offside. Just a ‘sweaty goal’ that used the post. I might be totally fucking wrong though!

Edit- I am wrong as the player that scored was in front of player that took the shot
Tbh there was a lot to look at and consider I’m not so sure it was as Obvious a mistake as it first seemed.

It was obvious.

MalcSB · Oct 23, 2019

tigersb said:
Personally I'm quite ignorant of the rules
Evans might have been onside but the scorer was off when the ball was crossed
Did the fact the ball came off the post mean he was then onside?

No

Johhny Blue · Oct 24, 2019

ccfc1234 said:
There is an argument that VAR is needed more in lower levels given how inept some officials are.

Looked like offside and a penalty for handball.

If we had VAR this season we’d already be promoted

Johhny Blue · Oct 24, 2019

block16 said:
If the first fleetwood player to take the shot was onside then I think the second part is onside. They’re both behind the defence one on one with the keeper and therefore there’s no defender that the striker can actually pass behind meaning the lad that scored can’t be offside. Just a ‘sweaty goal’ that used the post. I might be totally fucking wrong though!

Edit- I am wrong as the player that scored was in front of player that took the shot
Tbh there was a lot to look at and consider I’m not so sure it was as Obvious a mistake as it first seemed.

You sure took the long road, but you got there in the end

Johhny Blue · Oct 24, 2019

tigersb said:
Personally I'm quite ignorant of the rules
Evans might have been onside but the scorer was off when the ball was crossed
Did the fact the ball came off the post mean he was then onside?

Yes. Maybe. No

Johhny Blue · Oct 24, 2019

block16 said:
Just looked at the footage yeah he’s ahead of the teammate - it is offside. Thought he was behind him when the shot was taken

No he wasnt

shmmeee · Oct 24, 2019

OK. Sanity check and because they seem to change the rules and I miss it.

I thought the rule was if the ball was played forward you had to be onside, not if you are ahead of the player playing it. Is this wrong? (Usual “interfering with play” exceptions obviously)

robbiekeane · Oct 24, 2019

shmmeee said:
OK. Sanity check and because they seem to change the rules and I miss it.

I thought the rule was if the ball was played forward you had to be onside, not if you are ahead of the player playing it. Is this wrong? (Usual “interfering with play” exceptions obviously)

It doesn't matter if the ball is played forwards backwards or sideways. If the receiving player is behind the ball when it's played he is onside...regardless of direction the ball is played.

So this bloke is offside

robbiekeane · Oct 24, 2019

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If he's ahead of his teammate he's still offside.

Teammate is irrelevant it's the ball position.

shmmeee · Oct 24, 2019

robbiekeane said:
It doesn't matter if the ball is played forwards backwards or sideways. If the receiving player is behind the ball when it's played he is onside...regardless of direction the ball is played.

So this bloke is offside

Yeah just read the rule. Has that changed or have I always been wrong?

robbiekeane · Oct 24, 2019

shmmeee said:
Yeah just read the rule. Has that changed or have I always been wrong?

Think it’s just one of those common misconceptions mate...probably from being screamed “SQUARE IT HE CANT BE OFFSIDE” on an icey January Sunday morning in the memorial park in an oversized kit

oscillatewildly · Oct 24, 2019

Johhny Blue said:
If we had VAR this season we’d already be promoted

And countless match officials sacked.
But not before being tarred and feathered.

speedie87 · Oct 24, 2019

The state of this thread and the match thread for the offside embarrassing. Think we need a football rules thread to educate people -

Adge · Oct 24, 2019

speedie87 said:
The state of this thread and the match thread for the offside embarrassing. Think we need a football rules thread to educate people -

Indeed. Yes it was offside (the player who put the ball in the net as he was “gaining an advantage by being in that position”) and the assistant has made an error. But you are right-people (not only on here) take pleasure in slagging off the officials while not even knowing the offside rule themselves!

skybluepm2 · Oct 24, 2019

It’s the lack of accountability that has always wound me up. They aren’t ever interviewed post-match and if a manager or player dare criticize a frankly ridiculous decision, they are charged and/or fined with bringing the game into disrepute by the farce that is the Football League/F.A.

mark82 · Oct 24, 2019

skybluepm2 said:
It’s the lack of accountability that has always wound me up. They aren’t ever interviewed post-match and if a manager or player dare criticize a frankly ridiculous decision, they are charged and/or fined with bringing the game into disrepute by the farce that is the Football League/F.A.

The difference is media coverage. If it was premier league (before VAR) it would have been discussed for days and the pressure may have led to demotion of referees (not on one bad decision but we see them consistently at this level).

torchomatic · Oct 24, 2019

What really annoyed me was the ref telling Marosi to get on with it when we were winning, never said anything to their players taking an age to take goal kicks and throw ins. That lino was getting plenty of stick though, wasn't he?

Nick · Oct 24, 2019

Adge said:
Indeed. Yes it was offside (the player who put the ball in the net as he was “gaining an advantage by being in that position”) and the assistant has made an error. But you are right-people (not only on here) take pleasure in slagging off the officials while not even knowing the offside rule themselves!

Yet another error from the official down that side.

This comes after 2 clear handballs missed in previous matches in the same box (also one last night too).

It's baffling how so many people in the stand behind them can see things that they seem to keep missing. There was a free kick they had where their player had a shot on the 2nd ball afterwards, he was miles offside too.

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Oct 24, 2019

Nick said:
Yet another error from the official down that side.

This comes after 2 clear handballs missed in previous matches in the same box (also one last night too).

It's baffling how so many people in the stand behind them can see things that they seem to keep missing. There was a free kick they had where their player had a shot on the 2nd ball afterwards, he was miles offside too.

To be fair, the handball was marginal. It was from close by and there was no movement towards the ball, "You see them given, you see them not" category. I'd much rather the latter than the former because the handball rule is currently ridiculous. Having said that, the offside is a joke of a decision and as someone mentioned previously, the worst bit of officiating all game was the perceived 'time-wasting' by Marosi despite the fact Fleetwood had been doing it since minute 10 with absolutely no mention from the referee.

Nick · Oct 24, 2019

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
To be fair, the handball was marginal. It was from close by and there was no movement towards the ball, "You see them given, you see them not" category. I'd much rather the latter than the former because the handball rule is currently ridiculous. Having said that, the offside is a joke of a decision and as someone mentioned previously, the worst bit of officiating all game was the perceived 'time-wasting' by Marosi despite the fact Fleetwood had been doing it since minute 10 with absolutely no mention from the referee.

The 2 previous ones weren't marginal though.

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Oct 24, 2019

Nick said:
The 2 previous ones weren't marginal though.

I've been away so haven't made a game since Rotherham so I can't say I've seen them, was just taking last nights one at face value.

Adge · Oct 24, 2019

Nick said:
Yet another error from the official down that side.

This comes after 2 clear handballs missed in previous matches in the same box (also one last night too).

It's baffling how so many people in the stand behind them can see things that they seem to keep missing. There was a free kick they had where their player had a shot on the 2nd ball afterwards, he was miles offside too.

He got the penalty right though-the assistant gave the penalty.

clint van damme · Oct 24, 2019

torchomatic said:
What really annoyed me was the ref telling Marosi to get on with it when we were winning, never said anything to their players taking an age to take goal kicks and throw ins. That lino was getting plenty of stick though, wasn't he?

bloke in front of me who's normally quiet was losing his head over this, ranting and raving at the ref. It was pretty funny because he's normally mild mannered.

Esoterica · Oct 24, 2019

I didn't think it was particularly marginal - he puts his arm out that far away from his body and then it hits his hand too rather than his upper arm. It's above shoulder height and he's made his body unnaturally bigger.

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