Oggy named our greatest ever player. (10 Viewers)

DT-R

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Based on succes, longevity and legacy. I don't think anyone can argue it being oggy really? Player, coach, manager and commentator. He really is Mr.CCFC I'd say. Maybe not as glamorous as Dublin or Huckerby or Keane. But he epitomises CCFC.

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Skyblue Bangkok

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Based on succes, longevity and legacy. I don't think anyone can argue it being oggy really? Player, coach, manager and commentator. He really is Mr.CCFC I'd say. Maybe not as glamorous as Dublin or Huckerby or Keane. But he epitomises CCFC.

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I'd have thought

Based on succes, longevity and legacy. I don't think anyone can argue it being oggy really? Player, coach, manager and commentator. He really is Mr.CCFC I'd say. Maybe not as glamorous as Dublin or Huckerby or Keane. But he epitomises CCFC.

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Kyle Lightbourne for me

Based on succes, longevity and legacy. I don't think anyone can argue it being oggy really? Player, coach, manager and commentator. He really is Mr.CCFC I'd say. Maybe not as glamorous as Dublin or Huckerby or Keane. But he epitomises CCFC.

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Kyle Lightbourne for me.
 

Otis

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Anyone from my era would put George Curtis as the greatest ever .What a captain? In the 60's he helped the team rise through the divisions.Then in the late 80's him and Snoz materminded the FA cup win. Must have been great being a dressing room with him in and his never say die attitude.
Yeah. Has to be up there.

Glazier was a much better keeper than Oggy. Our best ever player was probably Dion Dublin.
 

Grendel

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Anyone from my era would put George Curtis as the greatest ever .What a captain? In the 60's he helped the team rise through the divisions.Then in the late 80's him and Snoz materminded the FA cup win. Must have been great being a dressing room with him in and his never say die attitude.

He didn’t play in the top flight and had little to do with the Cuo win in reality
 

Ashdown

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Oggy, bless him, he’s thick as a plank on the radio most of the time. He had a couple of good years in goal for sure and was a stalwart. Wouldn’t say he was a favourite though, he was always so slow with the ball and couldn’t use his feet apart from the long punt.
 

MalcSB

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He didn’t play in the top flight and had little to do with the Cuo win in reality
He broke his leg in the second game in the top flight. So he did play in the then First Division. I doubt he would have played many 90 minutes these days, pussies.

Peak Roy Barry was probably even better, until he broke his leg.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Oggy, bless him, he’s thick as a plank on the radio most of the time. He had a couple of good years in goal for sure and was a stalwart. Wouldn’t say he was a favourite though, he was always so slow with the ball and couldn’t use his feet apart from the long punt.

Huge disagree from me here, he had more than a ‘couple of good years’- two matches that stick out to me straight away are the semi v Leeds where we would genuinely have been sunk before half time without the saves he made, and Spurs (a full ten years later) where some of the saves kept us up in the desperate final stages.
 

Skyblue Bangkok

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Huge disagree from me here, he had more than a ‘couple of good years’- two matches that stick out to me straight away are the semi v Leeds where we would genuinely have been sunk before half time without the saves he made, and Spurs (a full ten years later) where some of the saves kept us up in the desperate final stages.
Also away game at Arsenal in his latter years , we lost 3-0 but if it wasn't for him it would have been about 10. He had more than a couple of good seasons for us in my opinion.
 

Ashdown

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Huge disagree from me here, he had more than a ‘couple of good years’- two matches that stick out to me straight away are the semi v Leeds where we would genuinely have been sunk before half time without the saves he made, and Spurs (a full ten years later) where some of the saves kept us up in the desperate final stages.
Yeah, they were the couple of good years 😉
 

DT-R

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In terms of longevity and legacy then you can't really argue. In terms of ability, he's not even our best ever goalkeeper.
Based on succes he's our only player with the longevity and legacy that has won a cup. Based on other players that have won cups and had the same lasting legacy you can't put Lee Burge in the same league as Oggy? Granted, Kirkland and Hedman were both worlds above him as a GK, but neither won anything with the club or have the same legacy or longevity. I agree, in terms of class, flare and ability, there are thousands of players that would be above in. But that have stayed the distance AND actually won something? There are none that I can think of.

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Ring Of Steel

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Tommy, no question in my mind.

We have had some great players here from time to time.

Borrows is probably my all time favourite, I absolutely loved the guy 😁

So skilful, reliable, I remember he went to centre half later in his career for a while and was solid there too. Only ever saw two players get the better of him (in person anyway), Ruel Fox and bizarrely enough Ian Ormondroyd who gave him a torrid afternoon at Villa Park.
 

Ring Of Steel

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Based on succes he's our only player with the longevity and legacy that has won a cup. Based on other players that have won cups and had the same lasting legacy you can't put Lee Burge in the same league as Oggy? Granted, Kirkland and Hedman were both worlds above him as a GK, but neither won anything with the club or have the same legacy or longevity. I agree, in terms of class, flare and ability, there are thousands of players that would be above in. But that have stayed the distance AND actually won something? There are none that I can think of.

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I have the book called ‘Staying Up’ by Rick Gekoski, he had access to the team through the 97/98 season and that’s when Ogrizovic was dropped for Hedman, the general consensus was that Hedman looked like he was from another planet in training compared to Ogrizovic. Punching one of our fans at Preston probably didn’t do him too many favours, but yeah- great keeper. I’d put the Kirkland that we had above all of them in terms of ability, but in terms of what each contributed to the club over time, Ogrizovic stands miles ahead in my opinion.
 

MalcSB

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Borrows is probably my all time favourite, I absolutely loved the guy 😁

So skilful, reliable, I remember he went to centre half later in his career for a while and was solid there too. Only ever saw two players get the better of him (in person anyway), Ruel Fox and bizarrely enough Ian Ormondroyd who gave him a torrid afternoon at Villa Park.
Where the “fairness” breaks down when comparing, say, Glazier with Oggie, is that it is rare for an individual player to be entirely responsible for winning anything. ( Personally I thought Jim Blyth was pretty good.)

Even a 1966 Geoff Hurst didn’t actually win the WC on his own. MOM definitely.
 

Theonlywayisskyblue

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Oggy, bless him, he’s thick as a plank on the radio most of the time. He had a couple of good years in goal for sure and was a stalwart. Wouldn’t say he was a favourite though, he was always so slow with the ball and couldn’t use his feet apart from the long punt.
Very harsh on Oggy. Best player still Tommy Hutch; he'd still probably get in our team now
 

DT-R

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Borrows is probably my all time favourite, I absolutely loved the guy

So skilful, reliable, I remember he went to centre half later in his career for a while and was solid there too. Only ever saw two players get the better of him (in person anyway), Ruel Fox and bizarrely enough Ian Ormondroyd who gave him a torrid afternoon at Villa Park.
If we're talking "favourites" for me it has to be Peter Ndlovu. Born in 85 I was only about 7 or 8 when I met him at an autograph signing at HR. I was so nervous. I asked him, dead shy, "Peter, how do you say your name? In it un-love? Or nud-love?" He did reply, but what he said sounded like neither and I still to this day couldn't tell you what he said obviously something Zimbabwean, who knows? Not me that's for sure.
The next time I remember being so star struck was when I took my lad (maybe around the same age as i was) to the Allan Higgs xmas party and met Joe Cole. Best. Christmas. EVER! Great memories. That's the thing with the football. As shit as we are right now, and as much as we all love a moan and a bitch, we've all got great and fond memories.

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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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He didn’t play in the top flight and had little to do with the Cuo win in reality
Circumstances didn't help him injurywise .In the Cup I bet you he had a great influence at half time and definitely at the start of extra time remember going round to each player in turn and geeing them up.He was very much part of the team.
In terms of keepers we have had a couple better than Oggy IMO Bill Glazer and Jim Blyth
 

MalcSB

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Dont forget there was that a light cock up in 87 involving Oggie and Peake. If Spurs had scored, I am pretty sure our memories and opinions would be very different.
 

Ring Of Steel

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If we're talking "favourites" for me it has to be Peter Ndlovu. Born in 85 I was only about 7 or 8 when I met him at an autograph signing at HR. I was so nervous. I asked him, dead shy, "Peter, how do you say your name? In it un-love? Or nud-love?" He did reply, but what he said sounded like neither and I still to this day couldn't tell you what he said obviously something Zimbabwean, who knows? Not me that's for sure.
The next time I remember being so star struck was when I took my lad (maybe around the same age as i was) to the Allan Higgs xmas party and met Joe Cole. Best. Christmas. EVER! Great memories. That's the thing with the football. As shit as we are right now, and as much as we all love a moan and a bitch, we've all got great and fond memories.

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I met Peter Ndlovu in the Pink Parrot once, he was drinking champagne with Phil Babb and Mick Quinn- I’d rarely seen anyone drink anything in the Parrot apart from cans of Breaker and nasty cheap cocktails, so you knew these guys were classy 😁.. Ndlovu was quite literally surrounded by women and was loving the attention..
 

Rodders1

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Borrows is probably my all time favourite, I absolutely loved the guy 😁

So skilful, reliable, I remember he went to centre half later in his career for a while and was solid there too. Only ever saw two players get the better of him (in person anyway), Ruel Fox and bizarrely enough Ian Ormondroyd who gave him a torrid afternoon at Villa Park.
Just appointed Assistant at Rugby Town too!
 

steve101

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He saved us from relegation over a number of seasons. Hardly ever injured and commanded his box better than anyone. If it wasn't for Shilton and Clemence, he would have played for England (how Dave Beasant got ahead of him was mind boggling!)
 

Bad Boy

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What happened?
First time End of an Era ball at the Metropole at the NEC (to commemorate leaving Highfield Road) anybody and everybody that had played or managed us was there.
After the meal and speeches guests mingled with players chatting about this and that and I approached him who was in a small group of players (one of whom was Speedie and another was Bugsy) and thanked them for them for my memories and asked them to sign a very nice and quite expensive programme.
Response from him as he pushed me away......'fuck off'

Killer on the other hand sitting with his very attractive partner was lovely and seemed genuinely pleased to chat to me and when I related to him one of my unforgettable memories of that day in 87 was of my 11 year old son constantly asking if we were going to win when deep into extra time. He leaned over and wrote (after asking my son's name) 'Gary, stop asking your Dad whether we're going to win'

Second time at Bloomfield Road August 2009 when they had that temporary stand down the length of the touchline for visiting fans. Walked into the ground with 2 friends and my sis and bro in law and there was a burger bar right in the corner and I stood in the queue to get us some coffees. He was kicking in with Westwood and Kan'tstopashot when a ball flew over and dropped by the side of me. I picked it up and had intended to throw it back after I'd finished being served when I heard him barking 'give us the fucking ball back you'
I called him over and pointed out that many standing around saw him as a legend but in truth he was a horrible rude individual and it wasn't the first time he'd demonstrated that to me.
 

Sick Boy

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I have the book called ‘Staying Up’ by Rick Gekoski, he had access to the team through the 97/98 season and that’s when Ogrizovic was dropped for Hedman, the general consensus was that Hedman looked like he was from another planet in training compared to Ogrizovic. Punching one of our fans at Preston probably didn’t do him too many favours, but yeah- great keeper. I’d put the Kirkland that we had above all of them in terms of ability, but in terms of what each contributed to the club over time, Ogrizovic stands miles ahead in my opinion.
I used to have that book, it’s a decent read. I’m pretty sure the fan tried to punch Herman rather than the other way round though?
 

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