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From memory Oggy struggled with two things kicking and crosses and Burge has the same issues, Rcc makes rushed decisions
I'm sorry, I don't dislike Burge as much as some in fact I'm one of the few on here who have given him the benefit of doubt and pointed out what I believe to be his attributes and took flack for it (including on this very thread) and even I am willing to admit that Burge has reached the pinnacle of his ability and most likely career and I say that as a poster who doesn't have a reputation for bashing our players. If you really believe he could improve under a different coach then fair enough, personally I don't see it. The only thing I can see improving Burge's record is a competent defence who aren't prone to stupid errors that ask to much of the goalie. But then you could say the same about any goalie. As far as I'm aware that's not down to the goal keeping coach.
I don't recall but who was the goalie coach when Oggy was in goal because Oggy's kicking wasn't exactly that clever. If you said Oggy isn't the bed person to coach his kicking based on Oggy's own kicking I wouldn't necessarily disagree but someone else can always assist with this or maybe (like Oggy) kicking is his weakness that you either except as a compromise because no amount of kicking practice is going to show drastic improvement.
Maybe MR will be another manager to realise that it's the recruitment and the level of goalies coming through the youth set up that is the issue and not the coaching that's the issue and change nothing as sentiment actually has nothing to do with it. I admit I don't know but then by the same token neither do you. You're as privy as I am as to what goes on behind the scenes. Difference between me and you is I don't assume to be correct.
Agree but you miss the rest of what I said. Those keepers you mention had more natural talent, requiring less coaching. What we have now are poor less talented keepers and yet Oggy has either lost his way and coaching ability or failed to point out we need new keepers instead of persisting with failures we have. Like a manager Oggy has over time begun to fail...comes to all eventually. Someone needs to tell him.
No amount of training can improve a player if he has not got enough natural talent.
You've kind of answered your own question.
That's Burges failure to not learn. Has he lost his ability to coach successfully? You don't know that.Lets be clear.
1. Oggy's failure is not being able to eradicate simple errors in our goal keepers.
He has lost his ability to coach successfully, much the same way as a manager does over time.
How do you know he hasn't already?2. It also demonstrates his failure to request bringing in a new keeper as an absolute requirement if he feels the keepers are not good enough.
We all clearly see they are not good enough and have not improved under his tutelage.
That's Burges failure to not learn. Has he lost his ability to coach successfully? You don't know that.
How do you know he hasn't already?
If he was to be replaced I wouldn't be that fussed tbh. It just seems that your answer to the shit state the club is in at the moment is to sack the goalkeeper coach when there are far more important issues to address.
If he was that bad previous managers would have brought in their own.
Nobody is saying that it is the answer to all of the issues with the club are they?
Time for that bent note ex cop to move on 30yrs of overstaying his welcomePut him out to pasture with the knackered old horses.
You can't live on past glories forever.
There is nothing worse than outstaying your welcome.
Should be bent noseTime for that bent note ex cop to move on 30yrs of overstaying his welcome
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He is because that is how it reads.then you are not paying attention
He is because that is how it reads.
Get rid of Oggy and all will be well.
People wake the fuck up.
All the problems at our club and you are all crying about a goalkeeping coach for being unable to make our goalkeepers better.
Our goalkeepers must have the worst defence we have ever had at the City in front of them yet are expected to keep a clean sheet in order for us just to get a draw, fuck me most GK would flap with those useless cunts in front of them.
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