O'Hare, Allen and Godden (2 Viewers)

Nick · Oct 24, 2020

I am not too sure many Championship defences will be shitting themselves in terms of pace and power with those 3 running at them.

There is no pace or power, there is no aggression there to go forward.

I am not sure we can play O'Hare and Allen in the advanced 2 together. We need to mix it up a little bit somehow.

cc84cov · Oct 24, 2020

If your asking will that front 3 keep us up ? 50/50 my end tbh I prefer Shipley up there over Allen & today O’Hare looked tired with a game midweek again who do you rotate him with.

Allen does a lot of running my issue is in that role we need more from the position.

Greggs · Oct 24, 2020

Jodi getting injured was a major blow. He'd add a different dynamic

stevefloyd · Oct 24, 2020

cc84cov said:
If your asking will that front 3 keep us up ? 50/50 my end tbh I prefer Shipley up there over Allen & today O’Hare looked tired with a game midweek again who do you rotate him with.

Allen does a lot of running my issue is in that role we need more from the position.

Kasta he at least lifted my spirits by that burst of pace and shoulder barge...great cross too

cc84cov · Oct 24, 2020

Greggs said:
Jodi getting injured was a major blow. He'd add a different dynamic

Was surprised we didn’t take a young loan before window closed final day Blackburn took Elliot ok they paid £1m but him

steve101 · Oct 24, 2020

Nick said:
I am not too sure many Championship defences will be shitting themselves in terms of pace and power with those 3 running at them.

There is no pace or power, there is no aggression there to go forward.

I am not sure we can play O'Hare and Allen in the advanced 2 together. We need to mix it up a little bit somehow.

I totally agree. I think they are far too similar. Allen keeps the ball better and O'Hare has the potential to do something a little bit special, but he hasn't done so in the last 3 games. At least Baka would give some physical presence and would offer a different sort of outlet. However needs to show he can do that role.

pusbccfc · Oct 24, 2020

Kastaneer did more in 10 minutes than Allen has done pretty much all season.

Grendel · Oct 24, 2020

pusbccfc said:
Kastaneer did more in 10 minutes than Allen has done pretty much all season.

lol

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

pusbccfc said:
Kastaneer did more in 10 minutes than Allen has done pretty much all season.

Because he barged a player over?

junglej13 · Oct 24, 2020

O'Hare has looked really raw at times this season.

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

junglej13 said:
O'Hare has looked really raw at times this season.

Agreed, although I think there’s an unrealistic expectation about his ability.

He started less games in L1 than Shipley or Westbrooke but when he signed our fans were saying he’s as good as Grealish!

ccfc92 · Oct 24, 2020

Nick said:
I am not too sure many Championship defences will be shitting themselves in terms of pace and power with those 3 running at them.

There is no pace or power, there is no aggression there to go forward.

I am not sure we can play O'Hare and Allen in the advanced 2 together. We need to mix it up a little bit somehow.

We definitely need to make some changes. We are offering next to nothing.

Off hand, I think we created 2 or 3 decent chances today.

We need to create more, but we seem to be in the habit of playing backwards once we get close to the 18 yard box...

Esoterica · Oct 24, 2020

Just said on the plan B thread that 4-3-3 is the way to go. O'Hare-Godden-Walker and Shipley, Bakayoko and Allen can come off the bench for them as appropriate. Our strength this year is in Sheaf-Kelly-Hamer so they should all play in a 3 which allows Dabo and McCallum/Giles licence to get forward still. Most teams will be better on the ball and have it more than us anyway, so sack off the possession football for a direct count attacking style that utilises O'Hare and Walker pace playing around Godden.

AFCCOVENTRY · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Agreed, although I think there’s an unrealistic expectation about his ability.

He started less games in L1 than Shipley or Westbrooke but when he signed our fans were saying he’s as good as Grealish!

At the moment O’Hare isn’t offering us anything. He needs a rest and we need to put Walker in.

cc84cov · Oct 24, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
At the moment O’Hare isn’t offering us anything. He needs a rest and we need to put Walker in.

Walker is an out and out striker tho in a front 3 yes but not as an AM for me

pusbccfc · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Because he barged a player over?

That's more than Allen has done!

All seriousness though, he did actually put a bit of effort in. Says a lot.

Grendel · Oct 24, 2020

pusbccfc said:
That's more than Allen has done!

All seriousness though, he did actually put a bit of effort in. Says a lot.

He was terrible and looked like he was a lottery winner having a 10 minute run around

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

Grendel said:
He was terrible and looked like he was a lottery winner having a 10 minute run around

We’re in more trouble than I thought if we’re relying on a player Robins has tried to get out of the club for a year

cc84cov · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
We’re in more trouble than I thought if we’re relying on a player Robins has tried to get out of the club for a year

Blue print is there high press us and we will give them the ball back with a hopeful ball to a striker pick up the second balls and go again we’re fucked if we do not get this sorted ASAP

stay_up_skyblues · Oct 24, 2020

Esoterica said:
Just said on the plan B thread that 4-3-3 is the way to go. O'Hare-Godden-Walker and Shipley, Bakayoko and Allen can come off the bench for them as appropriate. Our strength this year is in Sheaf-Kelly-Hamer so they should all play in a 3 which allows Dabo and McCallum/Giles licence to get forward still. Most teams will be better on the ball and have it more than us anyway, so sack off the possession football for a direct count attacking style that utilises O'Hare and Walker pace playing around Godden.

I think the midfield and front 3s are spot on and could work. Just not sure we can put a decent back 4 together. McCallum would probably be a decent LB but Dabo seems to be a natural getting forward all game. And at CB the usual three may be too slow, certainly Fadz... Maybe Ostigard and Hyam could work.

Grendel · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
We’re in more trouble than I thought if we’re relying on a player Robins has tried to get out of the club for a year

Someone made him joint MOM on the ratings thread

fernandopartridge · Oct 24, 2020

pusbccfc said:
Kastaneer did more in 10 minutes than Allen has done pretty much all season.

Jesus wept

Alkhen · Oct 24, 2020

Jesus there are some reactive boobs on here. 75 mins with 10 men, the forwards were feeding off scraps. It was a thankless task.

Adjust your expectations. We have barely any experience in the championship and a tiny budget in comparison to most teams. The fixtures have been really unkind, really loaded up with the fancied teams early on yet we are still keeping our head above the water. We will have a more managble run of games at some point which will be the real test

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

Alkhen said:
Jesus there are some reactive boobs on here. 75 mins with 10 men, the forwards were feeding off scraps. It was a thankless task.

Adjust your expectations. We have barely any experience in the championship and a tiny budget in comparison to most teams. The fixtures have been really unkind, really loaded up with the fancied teams early on yet we are still keeping our head above the water. We will have a more managble run of games at some point which will be the real test

They’re not getting any kinder, in our next 4 we have the team in top and third

Alkhen · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
They’re not getting any kinder, in our next 4 we have the team in top and third

Yep looks really tough. December looks a little kinder. Need to keep afloat til then in my eyes.

PVA · Oct 24, 2020

Allen did well against Swansea in the deeper role, but in the AM slot he's largely anonymous and doesn't look like contributing much.

We are missing Jones badly, he'd be great in that slot.

But don't forget today we were also missing Shipley, Bapaga (fully fit) and Hilssner

Yorkshire SB · Oct 24, 2020

Everyone saying reactive, it’s been like this every game (bar Bristol). Nowhere near enough up top to worry teams. It is what it is, we’ve just been promoted but we’re well short.

the rumpo kid · Oct 24, 2020

Alkhen said:
Jesus there are some reactive boobs on here. 75 mins with 10 men, the forwards were feeding off scraps. It was a thankless task.

Adjust your expectations. We have barely any experience in the championship and a tiny budget in comparison to most teams. The fixtures have been really unkind, really loaded up with the fancied teams early on yet we are still keeping our head above the water. We will have a more managble run of games at some point which will be the real test

Think we have got the right idea formation wise , we just need to be sharper with our passing and quicker with our movement into spaces . I believe the robins system is good and we will develop ,( although we can't handle to many 0-4 at home ) just more positive passing, and making sure it gets where is supposed to go
not the weak tapping in hope it gets there.

AFCCOVENTRY · Oct 24, 2020

As soon as Walker is available he needs to be playing now.

SIR ERNIE · Oct 24, 2020

O'Hare is a very decent prospect. He has the goalscoring potential to do what Wilson did for us. He just needs the Championship equivalent of a Leon Clarke to play off.

ccfc92 · Oct 24, 2020

Yorkshire SB said:
Everyone saying reactive, it’s been like this every game (bar Bristol). Nowhere near enough up top to worry teams. It is what it is, we’ve just been promoted but we’re well short.

That's the thing. You can only say "early days" or "we'll come good" for so long.

We aren't a million miles away, but we do need tweaking to get results. Apart from today, playing well and losing by the odd goal, will still result in relegation.

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

SIR ERNIE said:
O'Hare is a very decent prospect. He has the goalscoring potential to do what Wilson did for us. He just needs the Championship equivalent of a Leon Clarke to play off.

He’s a midfielder?

ccfc92 · Oct 24, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
As soon as Walker is available he needs to be playing now.

Agreed. Godden is a waste of time in a top 1 at this level. Not enough pace and even when he holds it up, has no one to lay it off to.

SIR ERNIE · Oct 24, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s a midfielder?

currently

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 24, 2020

SIR ERNIE said:
currently

I have seen nothing from him to suggest he’s going to end up as a striker

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