Off on the hatred tack again. My view is that Thorn was complicit last season in getting the club relegated. This is evident from the comparison in performance in the first half of the season versus the second. It shows tactics and planning was inadequate in the first half
Off on the hatred tack again. My view is that Thorn was complicit last season in getting the club relegated. This is evident from the comparison in performance in the first half of the season versus the second. It shows tactics and planning was inadequate in the first half.
I also think this season he has a strong back room staff and in terms of wages, squad etc. we are one of the strongest now in the league far more so than some people want to acknowledge (not you). This concludes he may well get the club back to where it should never have left anyway hence the serendipity tag.
Personally I believe he lacks sufficient intellect to ever be a manager of people and to react to adverse situations when they come along.
Not hatred just an impassioned view he is not up to it. No one hates a manager and I would think no one loves them either. They are vessels to achieve a purpose and as soon as they prove incapable you get rid.
if we dont win first three games they will shout for his head
Yes, I am one of the multitudes who say relegation was unequivocally outside of Thorn's sphere of influence and the manager of a football team has nothing whatsoever to do with the outcome of their season. Oh no, that's bollocks.
Ok, not sure what that had to do with my request for balance, but you keep battling against it.
Question. If we won the league 1 title would you keep the exact same squad or would you want improvements?
Yes I was hoping one if the others might answer that
Improvements. Good league 1 players may make poor championship ones.
It always strikes me as strange that those who questions Thorn's ability as a football manager are accused of hating him?!
It is my opinion that Thorn is going to hold us back this season, we need to get promoted this time, we haven't got time to piss around with him. He is way out of his depth and will be gone by Christmas, in my opinion. I just hope it isn't too late by then.
It always strikes me as strange that those who questions Thorn's ability as a football manager are accused of hating him?!
It is my opinion that Thorn is going to hold us back this season, we need to get promoted this time, we haven't got time to piss around with him. He is way out of his depth and will be gone by Christmas, in my opinion. I just hope it isn't too late by then.
Surely it's simple. The first team squad is funded within the bottom couple of clubs in the league, and that's where we ended up. Thorn simply served up a result proportionate with investment levels. It's not like he significantly underperformanced, like Cotterill at Forest for example; he just had crap and served up a crap result.
Many think the blame therefore being laid largely at his door is a bit short-sighted, and therefore wonder if the's a deep-seated issue beyond simply the footballing result. Maybe some don't like the man? Certainly some of the adjectives used in conjunction with his name; fat, clueless, bald, someone even called him a pedophile when he signed Nimely as they claimed he had a propensity for younger players (in ignorance of the fact that's all we could afford) seems to indicate a tissue of irrationality amongst some.
This year will be the test. When all's finished and we understand the strength of our squad against our peers, we can then measure his performance and make a valid judgement; without prejudice
Grendel
Personally I believe he lacks sufficient intellect to ever be a manager of people and to react to adverse situations when they come along.
So you obviously know him personally or have his IQ test results?
No didn't think so what a foolish comment to make thats why you can't answer
If he gets us promoted , oh we will be back down again. what happened to the judge him by results that you keep going on about
Are you summerisle in disguise who can't be wrong
The peadophile accusation made me laugh; I must have missed that one.
It always strikes me as strange that those who don't question Thorn's ability as a football manager are accused of loving him?!
Tomhh on this thread stated no manager on earth would have kept us up. Hate to think who scouted this useless dross.
People seem to think that any player with a bit of quality was scouted by Thorn though?
Maybe Keogh was a Boothroyd signing.
One we know is David Bell - he was an admirer for some time.
Eloquent as ever MMM.
The peadophile accusation made me laugh; I must have missed that one.
Given he arrived in the 2006/07 season, and since then we've scouted Dann, Fox, Westwood, Jutkiewitz and Keogh - all of whom we greeted by resounding choruses of 'who?'; I reckon it's churlish to cast doubt upon his credibility as a scout
2006/2007?! He arrived when Coleman was in charge, he came in after Dowie had gone. Bob Dowie was scout before him, I think?
Thorn was at Ipswich, Everton and then was working with Coleman at Fulham. He wasn't here when we signed Dann or Fox.
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.joueurs.andy.thorn.34628.en.html
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