Is this then a further indication that Fisher actually meant what he said and we will not be playing at the Ricoh ever again? Why else go through what would be a total waste of time asking the stewards if they would work at a different ground? More obfuscation and misdirection?
Not necessarily.
Even if a negotiating tactic, you'd know full well there was a fair chance you'd have to go through with it, even if for a short time. Who, after all, is going to give you a great deal to stay if they don't believe you'll actually go?
Doesn't that thought disgust you? It does me. That football has been reduced to doing "business" in this manner is a sad statement of how finance is ruining our sport, even at our low level.
Negotiating tactic North?
Doesn't that thought disgust you? It does me. That football has been reduced to doing "business" in this manner is a sad statement of how finance is ruining our sport, even at our low level. That anyone can find doing "business" in this manner as fit and proper is not a nice thought. Still, for some, as long as they can sit in their seat at 3pm on Saturday, it is irrelevant what our owners do.
Agreed with your sentiments until your unnecessary dig at fans who want to support their team. I wish people would let fans choose what they want to do for themselves without being labelled as disloyal.
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That steward was me on the radio this morning. I hope I got my points across ok. There were a couple of other things I wanted to say but didn't get the chance (like the fact that in pre-match briefings we were constantly told the party line to tow was "it's business as usual" - that's the sort of BS that I couldn't stand any more. As a fan and an employee. I also wanted to say that it's 'easier' for me as a casual member of staff to take my own personal stand against it by not working and not being willing to work elsewhere - whereas with a lot of the full time CCFC staff who've been there for years who do support the club, what can they do? It's their full time job, they need to income to support families etc or whatever their circumstances. I feel sorry for them being forced to tow that line.
But the main thing I wanted to make sure that I put across was that, unless I was talking about something I knew for sure (i.e. no stewards from the stand I am on signed the sheet to indicate willingness) I was speaking from my own personal view and not for all steward or all fans etc.
We were also told that 'everything is in place' for ground sharing at Walsall although I don't know what that actually means - I assume it means that all the relevant paperwork has been prepared ready to sign on the dotted line. I can also only assume Walsall's manager saying it's not going to happen is either a)true or b) the ground share has been arranged over his head with the Tim Fisher equivalent at Walsall?
Someone asked me if going on the radio and talking about the situation as a steward would effect me working there i.e. will I loose my job for spilling the info, well the way I look at it, I'm personally not willing to work for SISU at The Ricoh or anywhere else anyway, it's my own choice, and as it's highly likely they'll be here at the start of the season, I don't see how it would effect me. The problem we face as fans with what's happening to the club is so much bigger, in my opinion, than Stewards' jobs.
Agreed with your sentiments until your unnecessary dig at fans who want to support their team. I wish people would let fans choose what they want to do for themselves without being labelled as disloyal.
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That steward was me on the radio this morning. I hope I got my points across ok. There were a couple of other things I wanted to say but didn't get the chance (like the fact that in pre-match briefings we were constantly told the party line to tow was "it's business as usual" - that's the sort of BS that I couldn't stand any more. As a fan and an employee. I also wanted to say that it's 'easier' for me as a casual member of staff to take my own personal stand against it by not working and not being willing to work elsewhere - whereas with a lot of the full time CCFC staff who've been there for years who do support the club, what can they do? It's their full time job, they need to income to support families etc or whatever their circumstances. I feel sorry for them being forced to tow that line.
But the main thing I wanted to make sure that I put across was that, unless I was talking about something I knew for sure (i.e. no stewards from the stand I am on signed the sheet to indicate willingness) I was speaking from my own personal view and not for all steward or all fans etc.
We were also told that 'everything is in place' for ground sharing at Walsall although I don't know what that actually means - I assume it means that all the relevant paperwork has been prepared ready to sign on the dotted line. I can also only assume Walsall's manager saying it's not going to happen is either a)true or b) the ground share has been arranged over his head with the Tim Fisher equivalent at Walsall?
Someone asked me if going on the radio and talking about the situation as a steward would effect me working there i.e. will I loose my job for spilling the info, well the way I look at it, I'm personally not willing to work for SISU at The Ricoh or anywhere else anyway, it's my own choice, and as it's highly likely they'll be here at the start of the season, I don't see how it would effect me. The problem we face as fans with what's happening to the club is so much bigger, in my opinion, than Stewards' jobs.
Agreed with your sentiments until your unnecessary dig at fans who want to support their team. I wish people would let fans choose what they want to do for themselves without being labelled as disloyal.
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If the stewards end up being the final thing that keeps us at the Ricoh are all the people slagging them off over the years going to love them now?
If the stewards end up being the final thing that keeps us at the Ricoh are all the people slagging them off over the years going to love them now?
That steward was me on the radio this morning. I hope I got my points across ok. There were a couple of other things I wanted to say but didn't get the chance - like the fact that in pre-match briefings we were constantly told the party line to tow was "it's business as usual" - that's the sort of BS that I couldn't stand any more. As a fan and an employee. I also wanted to say that it's 'easier' for me as a casual member of staff to take my own personal stand against it by not working and not being willing to work elsewhere - whereas with a lot of the full time CCFC staff who've been there for years who do support the club, what can they do? It's their full time job, they need to income to support families etc or whatever their circumstances. I feel sorry for them being forced to tow that line.
But the main thing I wanted to make sure that I put across was that, unless I was talking about something I knew for sure (i.e. no stewards from the stand I am on signed the sheet to indicate willingness) I was speaking from my own personal view and not for all steward or all fans etc.
We were also told that 'everything is in place' for ground sharing at Walsall although I don't know what that actually means - I assume it means that all the relevant paperwork has been prepared ready to sign on the dotted line. I can also only assume Walsall's manager saying it's not going to happen is either a)true or b) the ground share has been arranged over his head with the Tim Fisher equivalent at Walsall?
Someone asked me if going on the radio and talking about the situation as a steward would effect me working there i.e. will I loose my job for spilling the info, well the way I look at it, I'm personally not willing to work for SISU at The Ricoh or anywhere else anyway, it's my own choice, and as it's highly likely they'll be here at the start of the season, I don't see how it would effect me. The problem we face as fans with what's happening to the club is so much bigger, in my opinion, than Stewards' jobs.
If the stewards end up being the final thing that keeps us at the Ricoh are all the people slagging them off over the years going to love them now?
There are many massive obstacles that come from moving us out of the city, the stewards not wanting to go is a very tiny obstacle, Don't get me wrong I'm supportive and grateful that they are taking a stand but ultimately I don't feel it makes it any harder for sisu to move us away.
There are many massive obstacles that come from moving us out of the city, the stewards not wanting to go is a very tiny obstacle, Don't get me wrong I'm supportive and grateful that they are taking a stand but ultimately I don't feel it makes it any harder for sisu to move us away.
Yes if we are kicking off at the RICOH in 5 weeks I will hand in the Coffin to them along with the Incendiary banners and Grandsons food parcel ,only buying Stadium produce from then on.
Surely, the Walsall stewards can just earn double time?
But would they be paid by SISU...their track record for 'paying up' isnt greatSurely, the Walsall stewards can just earn double time?
Of all of his 450 posts his 14 'likes' have all come from that one post. Coincidence?
29 now-and not all of them on that post!
That steward was me on the radio this morning. I hope I got my points across ok. There were a couple of other things I wanted to say but didn't get the chance - like the fact that in pre-match briefings we were constantly told the party line to tow was "it's business as usual" - that's the sort of BS that I couldn't stand any more. As a fan and an employee. I also wanted to say that it's 'easier' for me as a casual member of staff to take my own personal stand against it by not working and not being willing to work elsewhere - whereas with a lot of the full time CCFC staff who've been there for years who do support the club, what can they do? It's their full time job, they need to income to support families etc or whatever their circumstances. I feel sorry for them being forced to tow that line.
But the main thing I wanted to make sure that I put across was that, unless I was talking about something I knew for sure (i.e. no stewards from the stand I am on signed the sheet to indicate willingness) I was speaking from my own personal view and not for all steward or all fans etc.
We were also told that 'everything is in place' for ground sharing at Walsall although I don't know what that actually means - I assume it means that all the relevant paperwork has been prepared ready to sign on the dotted line. I can also only assume Walsall's manager saying it's not going to happen is either a)true or b) the ground share has been arranged over his head with the Tim Fisher equivalent at Walsall?
Someone asked me if going on the radio and talking about the situation as a steward would effect me working there i.e. will I loose my job for spilling the info, well the way I look at it, I'm personally not willing to work for SISU at The Ricoh or anywhere else anyway, it's my own choice, and as it's highly likely they'll be here at the start of the season, I don't see how it would effect me. The problem we face as fans with what's happening to the club is so much bigger, in my opinion, than Stewards' jobs.
Torch,
I actually was not trying to have a dig at fans, I was having a go at the mentality in football that says they don't care how it happens as long as they can watch football.
I have arguments with my brother, who lives in Salford and is a Man Utd fan since 40 years. He does not care about English players or the England team as long as he can watch some of the best football in the world. As long as he can watch world class players every week, nothing else matters, and it is this blinkered attitude that I am indeed having a dig at.
Well done for the interview, you came across brilliantly. Were you told by the club that everything is in place for a ground share at Walsall specifically? On the radio you indicated that no one knew for definite where it might be but were assuming it was Walsall.
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