OPen Letter Asking For Public Inquiry Over Wasps Deal (3 Viewers)

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2015/02/26/news-OPEN-LETTER-demands-Ricoh-inquiry-and-fairer-Coventry-City-deal-127760.html

wes_cov · Feb 25, 2015

Is it just me or does that come across as very bitter?

hill83 · Feb 25, 2015

Brew 11 would be my choice, or John Smiths

The Gentleman · Feb 25, 2015

wes_cov said:
Is it just me or does that come across as very bitter?

What, the piece or Torchomatic?

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

You'll include Jim Brown then too?

The Gentleman said:
What, the piece or Torchomatic?

skybluetony176 · Feb 25, 2015

They should do an online petition alongside this letter.

lordsummerisle · Feb 25, 2015

Why do people insist on open letters?

Always a waste of time and just smack of attention seeking.

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

Maybe they stuck it in an envelope and posted it to Ann too?

lordsummerisle said:
Why do people insist on open letters?

Always a waste of time and just smack of attention seeking.

ajsccfc · Feb 25, 2015

On the most popular articles on the Observer is one about saving the sports centre elephant. People like that thing?

lordsummerisle · Feb 25, 2015

torchomatic said:
Maybe they stuck it in an envelope and posted it to Ann too?

Possibly, but all these open ltters from The Trust, various campaign groups and the like never achieve anything.

I just think they're all rubbish, some will think that some open letters are brilliant, and some are shite.

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

Agree, Lord. Quite a few notable signatories on there though. Jim Brown and Shmmeee's Dad too, I think. Must be fun when those two get together!

Nick · Feb 25, 2015

Just another open letter.

Nick · Feb 25, 2015

torchomatic said:
Agree, Lord. Quite a few notable signatories on there though. Jim Brown and Shmmeee's Dad too, I think. Must be fun when those two get together!

I dont think his dad is on there.

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

Oh, my mistake. Apologies to everyone!

Nick said:
I dont think his dad is on there.

lewys33 · Feb 25, 2015

Another "don't look at us look at them!" bullshit Letter.

Whether you agree with the wasps move or not (I certainly do not) an inquiry will achieve nothing. If it proves something was untoward (let's be realistic it probably won't) then we will only end up with a few resignations and that's it. It's not worth it.

ccfctommy · Feb 25, 2015

What would an enquiry achieve though?

How would it benefit the Club?

Noggin · Feb 25, 2015

torchomatic said:
Quite a few notable signatories on there though.

Seems like the usual suspects to me for most part SCG members, Les Reid, Rob Stevens his friend and the guy they got to run against the council.

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

You missed out Jim Brown. Or is everyone going to hate him now?

Noggin said:
Seems like the usual suspects to me for most part SCG members, Les Reid, Rob Stevens his friend and the guy they got to run against the council.

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

Probably nothing, but is that the point?

ccfctommy said:
What would an enquiry achieve though?

How would it benefit the Club?

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

People go on about "attitude" and how going to see City, buying a ST, etc just excuses SISU and the damage they have done. All the "but what will it achieve" comments are just the same. CCC will get away with bringing in London Wasps and ensuring we will never own the Ricoh because a lot of people either ignore it because it's CCC and they are above reproach or they say but "what will it achieve".

A public body should be squeaky clean and open to all scrutiny.

lewys33 said:
Whether you agree with the wasps move or not (I certainly do not) an inquiry will achieve nothing. If it proves something was untoward (let's be realistic it probably won't) then we will only end up with a few resignations and that's it. It's not worth it.

bradwellskyblues · Feb 25, 2015

of course we all know public bodies should be open to scrutiny we also know sisu had 7 years to buy acl and chose not to

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 25, 2015

I'd rather Les Reid used his journalistic skills to do some investigating tbh. He'd probably get more of a story than a public enquiry as we should be looking at the moral rather than legal angle, IMSHO.

Same as admin processes...

skybluetony176 · Feb 25, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd rather Les Reid used his journalistic skills to do some investigating tbh. He'd probably get more of a story than a public enquiry as we should be looking at the moral rather than legal angle, IMSHO.

Same as admin processes...

Is the fact that he isn't using his investigative journalistic skills and instead writing open letters a good indicator that there really isn't anything to investigate? I'm waiting for there's a smoking gun and heads will roll rumours to start circulating as they did when JR1 was on it's way.

albatross · Feb 25, 2015

Les Ried certainly swallowed Timmys we have met with Rugby council speech as it was central in his article about there being no home for CCFC in Cov.

You would have thought that with his award winning investigative journalist senses he would have sussed it out.

Don't think you can rely on him for anything other than "spicing up the dossier"

Thenose · Feb 25, 2015

Who are all these self appointed "professionals", bunch of dimwits

torchomatic · Feb 25, 2015

True about some though wouldn't say dimwits. What about Ricoh architect and Jim Brown?

Thenose said:
Who are all these self appointed "professionals", bunch of dimwits

dongonzalos · Feb 25, 2015

Online petition is the way forward let's see if there is actually an appetite for it.

Jack Griffin · Feb 25, 2015

LOL, like the government is going to act on something like this just a few months before a General Election.. this is just a distraction technique.

dongonzalos said:
Online petition is the way forward let's see if there is actually an appetite for it.

Reid & co won't do that because it would expose the true lack of interest from the public.

chiefdave · Feb 25, 2015

A reasonable set of questions that should be of interest to any supporter. To me there is enough doubt about the whole process to warrant a wide ranging enquiry. If everything has been done above board and in the best interests of the city then CCC have nothing to fear by such an enquiry taking place.

tisza · Feb 25, 2015

Jim brown's assertion that the club now is the most transparent he has seen it ( with the exception of the paul fletcher reign) makes me question his opinions.

Macca · Feb 25, 2015

Long as it doesn't affect my day out on Sunday crack on

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 25, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Is the fact that he isn't using his investigative journalistic skills and instead writing open letters a good indicator that there really isn't anything to investigate? I'm waiting for there's a smoking gun and heads will roll rumours to start circulating as they did when JR1 was on it's way.

tbf he could actually be in the process...

But call me jaundiced, but I wish we had the Golden days of journalism. Nowadays it seems to be all FOI requests and campaigns, and no actual investigation.

Sometimes the dark arts have a certain use...

kmj5000 · Feb 25, 2015

Les, you have fallen a long way down and find yourseklf working for a free rag that very few people have delivered and even fewer people read. From your latest journalistic offerings it's very apparent that you have ended up a bitter, twisted and vindictive man. You have lost your integrity and dignity and it's all very sad!

duffer · Feb 25, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Is the fact that he isn't using his investigative journalistic skills and instead writing open letters a good indicator that there really isn't anything to investigate? I'm waiting for there's a smoking gun and heads will roll rumours to start circulating as they did when JR1 was on it's way.

It's a bit tricky to investigate if the main player here, the Council, isn't answering any questions. The logic here seems to be that because the first judicial review failed the council can have done no wrong since then. Politely, that's not clear thinking in my opinion.

There are some very detailed questions there, to which I'd like to know the answers. There's no way that anyone can tell me all of the people on that list are SISU puppets.

As before if people don't want a enquiry because all that matters to them is that SISU lost, fair enough. Personally I think there's enough going on here, and enough public funds at risk to merit more than just a box-ticking exercise by an auditor.

skybluefred · Feb 25, 2015

The Ricoh was owned 50% each by CCC & Higgs Charity. Sisu had the option to buy it for seven long years.
Instead they tried to get it for the best part of nothing, even resorting to withholding legally owed rent and
moving the Club to the Cobblers.They also tried the law courts and failed dismally.

CCC had every right to rid themselves of a weight around their necks, and so did Higgs.

Sisu said they did not want the Ricoh and had their own plans for a new stadium LOL.

Unfortunate choice of new owners maybe but at least they played the game honestly.

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