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covcity4life

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #1
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/wasps-ceo-wants-coventry-city-7903341

wasps owner saying all the right things. no high rent,no seat colour changes, help ccfc financially so can get promoted etc

made me feel better anyway.
 

matesx

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #2
im buzzin man
 
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Woodster

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #3
Key comments;

"Our whole business plan and vision is about generating footfall through this fantastic facility, to have 25 weekends a year with football fans in the bar and hotel etc, etc.”

They'll be taking the revenue for that, if not all then I'd expect a large percentage. Us being there suits them as it makes them money. If we didn't make them money there'd be no reason for us to be there. It harps back to the point Timmy has been banging on about access to all of the stadium revenue, without access to that how do we generate the money to comply with FPP, to build a stronger squad, attract more fans, win promotion etc..?
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #4
Positive for Nick as well when he sets up the New Wasps Forum
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #5
wingy said:
Positive for Nick as well when he sets up the New Wasps Forum
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Does that mean we have to stand outside Nick's house with a whistle, shouting?
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #6
Woodster said:
Key comments;

"Our whole business plan and vision is about generating footfall through this fantastic facility, to have 25 weekends a year with football fans in the bar and hotel etc, etc.”

They'll be taking the revenue for that, if not all then I'd expect a large percentage. Us being there suits them as it makes them money. If we didn't make them money there'd be no reason for us to be there. It harps back to the point Timmy has been banging on about access to all of the stadium revenue, without access to that how do we generate the money to comply with FPP, to build a stronger squad, attract more fans, win promotion etc..?
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Be excellent if CCFC make some money from Wasps events.

Nice to have something positive for a change.

Expect the reply though 'We need our own stadium for the revenues etc. etc. blah, blah, blah..... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'
 
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derbyskyblue

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #7
Dont take this the wrong way nick....but i aint joining....
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #8
Otis said:
Be excellent if CCFC make some money from Wasps events.

Nice to have something positive for a change.

Expect the reply though 'We need our own stadium for the revenues etc. etc. blah, blah, blah..... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'
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Except of course unless Sisu think it wrong in principal to make money from a franchise operation.
 

hill83

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #9
It all sounds delightful.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #10
i can see them offering us good rent with access to matchday revenues, or at least a % of it

would be amazing if they could give us at least a small piece of the pie of other ricoh events.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #11
Not wanting to be negative, but the day they have bought 50% of our home, they will quite rightly be making the right noises to try and smooth over the negativity.

They will of course want the club to be there to make them money. I can't see why they will want to give us access to the matchday revenue we need to compete as this is the exact same money they will be looking to make from us being there.

It's just spin,


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Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #12
stupot07 said:
Not wanting to be negative, but the day they have bought 50% of our home, they will quite rightly be making the right noises to try and smooth over the negativity.

They will of course want the club to be there to make them money. I can't see why they will want to give us access to the matchday revenue we need to compete as this is the exact same money they will be looking to make from us being there.

It's just spin,


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I've come to the conclusion Stu that you are definitely Mr. Half Glass Empty.

I'm the opposite. Always try and make the most of a bad job and though this is only one day in, this statement I find very encouraging.
 
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standupforcity

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #13
This certainly sounds very positive, grown up speak, the kind of thing we really want to hear. And at this stage I'm certainly prepared to accept what he says on face value. Wasps have a pretty clean record from what I've heard, so why should any of that change. This can be a new start for City's confidence and sense of belonging....if you choose to see it that way, and I do!
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #14
You can have mine I or BHSB we have now retired
Deleted member 5849 said:
Does that mean we have to stand outside Nick's house with a whistle, shouting?
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stupot07

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #15
Otis said:
I've come to the conclusion Stu that you are definitely Mr. Half Glass Full.

I'm the opposite. Always try and make the most of a bad job and though this is only one day in, this statement I find very encouraging.
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I wouldn't say I'm Half Glass Full, I am still very disappointed by the whole thing, I just don't get why the wasps would give us access to revenue. What's in it for them, other than making money from the club. Their other statements talk about them losing £3m per annum, that it can't continue or they will become insolvent and they need access to revenue to avoid this and compete in competitions. I don't get how giving ccfc access to revenue helps them, they may as well not have the club there at all.


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hill83

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #16
I'd like to think they know about sport and how important revenue is. More so than ACL/CCC.
The better we do the more money they potentially make. So I'd like to think we'll get the match day revenue and in the long term more muppets like us fill the place and generate money in and around the stadium.

Then I gain the ability to fly and find £100 million and grow a second dick and buy a helicopter.

Edit: The helicopter is for when it rains
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #17
Deleted member 5849 said:
Does that mean we have to stand outside Nick's house with a whistle, shouting?
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Think we have to now look for something else to protest about. We're not happy unless we're unhappy are we, so we need a new object of protest.

I will suggest local bin collections. Bound sure to stir up a hornet's nest.

Or should that bee a wasps nest?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #18
hill83 said:
I'd like to think they know about sport and how important revenue is. More so than ACL/CCC.
The better we do the more money they potentially make. So I'd like to think we'll get the match day revenue and in the long term more muppets like us fill the place and generate money in and around the stadium.

Then I gain the ability to fly and find £100 million and grow a second dick and buy a helicopter.

Edit: The helicopter is for when it rains
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Can't you shelter under your superfluous new appendage?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #19
stupot07 said:
I wouldn't say I'm Half Glass Full, I am still very disappointed by the whole thing, I just don't get why the wasps would give us access to revenue. What's in it for them, other than making money from the club. Their other statements talk about them losing £3m per annum, that it can't continue or they will become insolvent and they need access to revenue to avoid this and compete in competitions. I don't get how giving ccfc access to revenue helps them, they may as well not have the club there at all.


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What's in it for them I would say would be that they want us here and probably need us here. They must know we need to prosper to stay here.

Simple as that I would guess. Need to give us sweetners to make it a fruitful relationship and an ongoing one at that.
 

hill83

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #20
Otis said:
Can't you shelter under your superfluous new appendage?
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No
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #21
standupforcity said:
This certainly sounds very positive, grown up speak, the kind of thing we really want to hear. And at this stage I'm certainly prepared to accept what he says on face value. Wasps have a pretty clean record from what I've heard, so why should any of that change. This can be a new start for City's confidence and sense of belonging....if you choose to see it that way, and I do!
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Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO who has joined a club and moved them still further away from their roots, against the wishes of their fans?

Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO employed by an owner who said the unsurprising fact that "deally we believe that west London is a natural future home for London Wasps"?
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #22
Otis said:
What's in it for them I would say would be that they want us here and probably need us here. They must know we need to prosper to stay here.

Simple as that I would guess. Need to give us sweetners to make it a fruitful relationship and an ongoing one at that.
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Which then goes round to - if they give us access to revenue, they won't be making money from the revenue, then apart from rent they won't need our footfall there.

I hope I'm wrong, I just don't buy it at the minute. We've heard a lot of rhetoric over the last 10 years and it's mainly been bs.


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Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #23
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO who has joined a club and moved them still further away from their roots, against the wishes of their fans?

Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO employed by an owner who said the unsurprising fact that "deally we believe that west London is a natural future home for London Wasps"?
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Ah yes, but that was London Wasps.

They've dropped the 'London' now, so that makes it all okay.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #24
stupot07 said:
Which then goes round to - if they give us access to revenue, they won't be making money from the revenue, then apart from rent they won't need our footfall there.

I hope I'm wrong, I just don't buy it at the minute. We've heard a lot of rhetoric over the last 10 years and it's mainly been bs.


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Wonder what has happened to Rugby, rugby fans. They went bust didn't they?

Wonder if they might follow Wasps.

Looks like the new owners are counting on new paying customers from around these parts I would say.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #25
There are opportunities there for CCFC certainly ............. just a matter of whether the blinkers can be taken off to see them............. and to put the interests of CCFC & fans first for once
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #26
http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/article/2014/10/08/the-ricoh-arena-q-as


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hill83

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #27
Supporters will be spoilt for choice for bars, food outlets and areas to socialise on match day
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Dear me. Didn't get any further than that. My sides.
Looks like they are building boozers then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #28
" before a decision is taken on Wasps training facilities in Coventry and Warwickshire during the 2015/16 season."

Allard Way next?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #29
'shuttle trains every 10 mins from Coventry Station directly to and from the Ricoh Arena.'

That's nice to know. Be a big bonus having trains every 10 mins on match days.
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #30
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO who has joined a club and moved them still further away from their roots, against the wishes of their fans?

Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO employed by an owner who said the unsurprising fact that "deally we believe that west London is a natural future home for London Wasps"?
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Exactly, sounds like SISU mark 2. But SISU could have done this deal if they had conducted themselves properly and the Ricoh could have been for our benefit. Now we have to get in bed with a Sport franchise Rugby Club.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #31
hill83 said:
Dear me. Didn't get any further than that. My sides.
Looks like they are building boozers then.
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The sort of people who watch Rugby will not want to drink in the Wheatsheaf. Will it be turned into a gastropub? Olives on the bar rather than ropey curry?
 

ajsccfc

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #32
With the seats thing, on this page there's a preview image on the 'step inside our stadium' bit where they've superimposed 'WASPS' on the away end.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #33
Deleted member 5849 said:
" before a decision is taken on Wasps training facilities in Coventry and Warwickshire during the 2015/16 season."

Allard Way next?
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The Higgs Charity no longer makes small grants but concentrates on bigger schemes which benefit people of a Coventry as a by-product. This could be one and might be one.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #34
Hobo said:
Exactly, sounds like SISU mark 2. But SISU could have done this deal if they had conducted themselves properly and the Ricoh could have been for our benefit. Now we have to get in bed with a Sport franchise Rugby Club.
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More and more, I'm being pushed towards a position where I have no preferred option!
 

standupforcity

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  • Oct 8, 2014
  • #35
Deleted member 5849 said:
Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO who has joined a club and moved them still further away from their roots, against the wishes of their fans?

Why would you accept at face value the comments of a CEO employed by an owner who said the unsurprising fact that "deally we believe that west London is a natural future home for London Wasps"?
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....'if you choose to see it that way, and I do!' Does that answer it for you!!
 
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