Sick Boy
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Would you say the amber list countries in Europe are ‘high risk’ considering comparable rates of vaccination and lower case numbers?
Would you say the amber list countries in Europe are ‘high risk’ considering comparable rates of vaccination and lower case numbers?Again an absurd comparison if coming from a high risk country then clearly they will have to and it’s a 10 day restriction not one for an unspecified time period.
I actually think if it’s high risk and someone elects to travel they should be regardless of vaccine status
Not a big fan of them but been using them for a few weeks now and cases in Italy are at around 2500 cases a day and decreasing - if it avoids a lockdown then it’s better all round for the country.
Those who are too scared to get the vaccine pay €15 to be tested and that gives them a ‘Green Pass’ for 48 hours.
Again an absurd comparison if coming from a high risk country then clearly they will have to and it’s a 10 day restriction not one for an unspecified time period.
I actually think if it’s high risk and someone elects to travel they should be regardless of vaccine status
Maybe because there are actually more people requiring tests?The daily cases are a misnomer really and is skewed by the number of tests each country does. The U.K. reported test figures are much higher
Would you say the amber list countries in Europe are ‘high risk’ considering comparable rates of vaccination and lower case numbers?
So why isn’t forcibly keeping people in their homes irrespective of whether they have the virus a slippery slope? I assume you think they should be allowed out to live freely once they produce the proper paperwork to show they likely don’t have Covid?
It’s only 10 days if you’re not vaccinated from Amber.It’s a 10 day process which is not discriminatory
It’s only 10 days if you’re not vaccinated from Amber.
In that case there’s no evidence to suggest that vaccine passports would be required for years to come either.Even then it’s a situation which is a short time frame and a consequence of leaving a country. It’s not a restriction that will apply potentially for years to come is it?
I admire your persistence at trying to push this obesity angle still despite it being shot down every time.
It's not remotely comparable. Last time I checked obesity still isn't contagious.
In that case there’s no evidence to suggest that vaccine passports would be required for years to come either.
Always a few loons in every protest tbf.How many were at the protest with the woman calling for doctors and nurses to hang?
OK, so obesity isn't a factor with COVID hospitalisations / deaths?
OK, so obesity isn't a factor with COVID hospitalisations / deaths?
Would a decrease in obesity make a difference in hospitalisations / deaths from COVID?
It’s a 10 day process which is not discriminatory
It's about halfway down the list of underlying health conditions which exacerbate covid.
Can't remember what was top, diabetes is second though they'll be a certain amount of crossover with obesity, and it wasn't broken down into types 1and 2.
One study found that for people with a BMI of 35 to 40, risk of death from COVID-19 increases by 40% and with a BMI over 40 by 90%, compared to those not living with obesity. Other data found that in intensive care units, 7.9% of critically ill patients with COVID-19 had a BMI over 40 compared with 2.9% of the general population.
Free subscription to the gym for every vaccinated person, unvaccinated people banned from said gym. Sorted.But what's a quicker way out of this - getting everyone jabbed or getting all obese people to lose weight?
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The quarantine rules have got progressively more restrictive, including forcing people to stay in government-approved hotels rather than their own homes. But no slippery slope there I take it?
And again - presumably you think people should be allowed out of quarantine once they produce the paperwork that shows they likely don’t have Covid?
I can’t decide if I’m for them or not to be honest. Can we have a not sure option?
Nobody has said it isn't a factor.
But what's a quicker way out of this - getting everyone jabbed or getting all obese people to lose weight?
Obesity is a choice for some people. So when can we expect obese passports for them?
That doesn't make sense?
You can see if someone's obese andobese can and are refused certain treatments on the NHS.
I'm against vacinne passports but I don't see your argument as avalid comparison. It's not the same.
It isn't ever going to go away, we need to live with it.
If we don't want the NHS to be crippled, ban people who choose to be obese from doing stuff. Where does it end? Smokers, drinkers, people who drive cars etc?
How many were at the protest with the woman calling for doctors and nurses to hang?
It's just a ridiculous argument and I can't see why you persist with it.
I thought it was about not crippling the NHS though?
Why would anyone choose to be obese?How is it ridiculous?
The risk of COVID hospitalisation / death / severe illness from it increases massively with obesity. Obesity is a choice for some people.
Probably an insignificant number compared to those who are vaccinated.
Apart from smokingBy stopping the spread.
You don't spread Obesity, or lung cancer or other mainly lifestyle diseases.
I just think there has to be a better way of containing it and that vacinne passports will be a gateway to fuck knows what else.
Might be brought on by the depression and anxiety caused by anempathetic people...Why would anyone choose to be obese?
Apart from smoking
It’s amazing so many get outraged about being tracked and their personal data yet happily have Facebook, Instagram etc accounts.
And again it’s for 10 days - so if you agree or not with it it’s 10 days. I don’t agree with changing status without 14 days so it doesn’t impact those in travel but it’s nowhere near the same issue
I’m not referring to your point of view.its nothing to do with personal data
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