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3 youths guilty of manslaughter not murder.
Obviously the jury have had a lot more information than me but it seems that although they didn't intend to drag him along the road they didn't stop when they realised that they were.

Can't see how that's not murder.
 
I assume it was because the prosecution wasn't able to conclusively prove that they drove off, and continued to drive, with intent. If it was done with intent, they will have received a life sentence already, as that knowledge will come to increasingly haunt them throughout their lives.
 
dubed said:
I assume it was because the prosecution wasn't able to conclusively prove that they drove off, and continued to drive, with intent. If it was done with intent, they will have received a life sentence already, as that knowledge will come to increasingly haunt them throughout their lives.
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On the report I heard it said they knew they were dragging him so whether that's incorrect I don't know.
Will see what's said in the papers.

And it said jurors received protection after intelligence of a potential threat from their families so maybe mot the types to be feeling too guilty about it.
 
Apparently the Jury has to go into special protection as the police believed that there was a plot to intimidate them.
 
Obviously those involved in the trial have more info than us but from what is publicly known its hard to believe you can drive a mile dragging someone along without realising it. That seems to be the primary factor in it being manslaughter rather than murder.

Also reports they were armed with a large axe, three crowbars and a hammer. Not to mention issues at the trial with suspected attempts by "associates of the defendants to intimidate the jury".

There's footage of them arriving at court laughing and joking, not exactly a sign of remorse. Hopefully the judge gives them the longest sentence possible.
 
clint van damme said:
As Clarke1234 said sentencing next week but what's the maximum you can get for manslaughter?
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Max for Manslaughter is also life but it gives the judge freedom to give a figure below life whereas the sentence for murder is life and the judge can make a recommendation as to what the minimum amount of years to be served before parole.
 
Will be interesting to read the judge's sentencing remarks next week. I won't bother with the papers!
 
Saw the footage of them laughing . If they die in prison I couldn't care less. Scum.
 
chiefdave said:
Obviously those involved in the trial have more info than us but from what is publicly known its hard to believe you can drive a mile dragging someone along without realising it.
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www.dailyrecord.co.uk

Horror as Megabus driver runs over motorway plunge woman - then drives on for another 150 miles

EXCLUSIVE: A BUS drove on for 150 miles after running over a woman who plunged from a motorway bridge.
www.dailyrecord.co.uk www.dailyrecord.co.uk

btw, not justifying them in the slightest, just this came to mind!
 
In law you only need to intend to cause grievous bodily harm, not to kill someone, for it to be murder if they die. That’s why cases where someone banjoes someone else and they hit their head falling over and die, are fairly called manslaughter, because they didn’t really intend to seriously hurt the other guy, just win the fight. Dragging a police officer over a mile is quite clearly murder. Total scumbags that the police are protecting the rest of us from.
 
16, 16 and 13 years.
They deserved more but when I heard the manslaughter verdict I thought it could have been a lot less.

Wiped the smiles off their faces if nothing else
 
Fucking disgrace to society hope Mr big in the Shower takes a shine to them to wipe the smirk of their faces.
 
clint van damme said:
16, 16 and 13 years.
They deserved more but when I heard the manslaughter verdict I thought it could have been a lot less.

Wiped the smiles off their faces if nothing else
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so 8, 8, and 6.5 then. Still think it’s not enough. Manslaughter sentences are far too lenient IMO. Too easy to get blatant murder down to manslaughter then you’re out in no time.
 
shmmeee said:
so 8, 8, and 6.5 then. Still think it’s not enough. Manslaughter sentences are far too lenient IMO. Too easy to get blatant murder down to manslaughter then you’re out in no time.
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The judge actually stipulated that they must serve two-thirds of their time. Still too little.
 
dubed said:
The judge actually stipulated that they must serve two-thirds of their time. Still too little.
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Oh that’s good. I usually assume half given good behaviour.
 
Hopefully they get brought down a peg or two inside,Wipe those smirks off there faces!!
 
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