Pistorious (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

Does anybody else think he will get away with it?

 

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[blueflint]

don't see how he can he shot her end of

 

[rupert_bear]

In my opinion as guilty as sin but a national hero and that unfortunately counts. Got shades of that farcacle O.J. Simpson trial a few years ago. Even if it was a burglar 4 shots is excessive force surely. I think I read it was a magnum gun too. One shot would have blew her head off.

 

[andrew.roberts]

There is no doubt that he shot her, the question is whether the defence can prove that it was through fear that an intruder had entered the house or the prosecution can convince the jury that it was rage that caused him to shoot her.

 

[bringbackrattles]

Fancy shooting a beautiful woman like that ?she was a right cracker.If he's found guilty he ain't got a leg to stand on, oops !

 

[wingy]

Another media showtrial there will be no Justice ,his team know exactly what they're doing .

 

[Covstu]

guilty as sin but this will be dragged on for months!!

 

[Otis]

Think this will be played out like a cricket match. Guess the the answer will be found at the end of stumps.

 

[wingy]

Think this will be played out like a cricket match. Guess the the answer will be found at the end of stumps.

Didn't he have his legs on?

 

[Otis]

Yeah, short leg and long leg.

 

[dutchman]

Banned advert...

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Think he will be found guilty of a lesser charge than murder and won't do any jail time

 

[M&B Stand]

The odds on betting sites are shorting on not guilty.
He'll get off, no question.

Not spent a single night in prison even on remand.

 

[wingy]

2 week adjournment .

what do you reckon ,help or hindrance ?

Just imagine all the Prosecution evidence got all that time to go cold and seep away ,then ,well Forgone is'nt It,can't even do eye contact.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

If Reena had been on the toilet he wouldn't have shot her, she was behind the door.

Why would she be behind the door rather than sitting on the loo?

Odd.

 

[Nick]

Surely he will still go down for manslaughter?

 

[ccfc92]

Surely he will still go down for manslaughter?

It depends on South African law I guess. TBH, the state of that country, I imagine you can kill anyone who is on your property regardless of self defense etc.... :/

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Known it from the start that he's guilty as fuck, all these lies and fake tears aren't doing him any favours. Most pathetic thing was when his lawyers argued that the screaming was not Reeva's, it was Oscar's because he sometimes sounds like a woman. Yes, they really argued that. Just lock him up already!

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Just heard him putting on the sob story on Sky Sports News in front of the parents, I'm not even a body language expert but that was the fakest thing I've ever heard, not even a twitch from the mother either.

Hope he spends a lifetime in prison.

 

[Houchens Head]

Guilty as sin! He should get life for cold bloodied murder!

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Just heard him putting on the sob story on Sky Sports News in front of the parents, I'm not even a body language expert but that was the fakest thing I've ever heard, not even a twitch from the mother either.

Hope he spends a lifetime in prison.

I don't think that would be allowed in a UK court.

Fake as hell, should go down for life and then some.

 

[wingy]

Should never be televised or transmitted direct .

The potential to pressure the Jury due to public perception of all that Is glaring .

Like the Jury not being able to discuss outside of the court ,neither should be so exposed to that show being so omnipresent.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

He's been painting the picture of being completely in love with her. He has said that the Valentines gift she got him lay unopened until he decided to open it on her birthday. He got the date of her birthday wrong though.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

So, he claims that he didn't mean to shoot anybody!

He was just so scared that he pulled the trigger out of fear rather than out of any conscious act.

Oh come of it.

You pulled the trigger four times without thinking?

So you don't even want to accept the story that you deliberately shot a burglar?

You "accidentally" shot at the door.

Rubbish.

 

[Nick]

They will probably believe his shit though won't they.

 

[dutchman]

He's a fool to give evidence as he's guaranteed to contradict himself.

 

[stupot07]

He's a fool to give evidence as he's guaranteed to contradict himself.

Has he got a choice? Don't all defendants get questioned/give evidence in court?


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[dutchman]

Has he got a choice? Don't all defendants get questioned/give evidence in court?

No, they have a right to remain silent.

In South Africa specifically:

According to Section 35 of the Constitution of 1996[SUP][18][/SUP] ("Arrested, detained and accused persons") states:

1. Everyone who is arrested for allegedly committing an offence has the right
   • to remain silent;
   • to be informed promptly
     • of the right to remain silent; and
     • of the consequences of not remaining silent;
   • not to be compelled to make any confession or admission that could be used in evidence against that person;

and later in the section:

• Every accused person has a right to a fair trial, which includes the right
  • ....
  • not to be compelled to give self-incriminating evidence;

 

[wingy]

That picture they showed was quite graphic and has been criticised for introduction
However It left you with the Impression she was shot through the back of the head
Wwonder if she was cowering behind the door looking at the hight of the bullet holes

 

[stupot07]

No, they have a right to remain silent.

In South Africa specifically:

Is that the arrest rights? Is that the same in court? Wouldn't someone refusing to answer questions be in contempt of court?

 

[dutchman]

Is that the arrest rights?

It's both arrest rights and trial rights.

Is that the same in court?

Yes.

Wouldn't someone refusing to answer questions be in contempt of court?

Not if they're the one who is accused.

 

[stupot07]

It's both arrest rights and trial rights.



Yes.



Not if they're the one who is accused.

Thanks, I never knew that. My only experience of court is on TV and in Films, and the defendant always talks. Just goes to show you learn something new every day

 

[dutchman]

There's an old saying in the British underworld: "Nobody ever swung who kept his mouth shut". I don't know whether that's true or not but many defendants including James Hanratty* in 1962 have been convicted of murder after giving evidence at their own trial despite being strongly advised by their defence lawyer not to.

*Hanratty had a cast-iron alibi for the night of the A6 murder but insisted on contradicting it in court for reasons which have never been explained.

 

[Houchens Head]

Personally, I never thought Hanratty was guilty. But it's just one of those cases that will be argued for and against for decades.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

He's claimed the ammunition held illegally in his safe was his fathers (who he also said he doesn't communicate with).

Strangely his father has refused to make a statement to state the same.

His credibility has been destroyed today, but he's stayed rock solid on the key facts of the night.