junglej13
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Basically what Dion did here.
Basically what Dion did here.I happen to know when Heskey went to Liverpool, he was persuaded by Oneal to sign a new contract so Leicester could benefit from a fee for him. A player moving on but helping his home town team. Classy. McCallister should have been offered the same.
The run we went on after this was exquisite. I've never seen a city team that was so clearly head and shoulders above the rest of league.Wycombe away in the L1 promotion season was a big moment. Hadn't won away all season up that point and although we'd only lost 3 games we'd drawn far too many. We were at the back of a long chasing pack with a poor Goal difference. Matty Godden's hattrick and crushing the league leaders on their own patch was the catalyst for the unbeaten run and promotion.
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The way Leicester dealt with admin was different to every other club since. Begrudgingly, they did well out of it. Rules were changed after they did it so it had much more of an impact and meant clubs didn't get away scot free.
You can only judge things as they were in 1967/68 Malcolm Allison’s forte was working with and moulding young players and that was what we were all those players Cantwell got rid of were in their early to mid twenties Ronnie Rees for example was one of the best wingers in the country either wing his replacement for the same money Ernie Hannigan in comparison was poor you can add Willie Carr, Mick Coop and Graham Paddon to them with Jeff Blockley and Dennis Mortimer a year or so behind. All hypothetical of course but with those young players and adding the type of player he would have attracted could have been a difference to years of struggling but we’ll never know.No evidence to suggest your assumption is correct. Allison did nothing as a manager but was very successful number two to Mercer, thought he was the main man but was exposed when in the top job. Thought nothing of back stabbing Mercer at Manchester City and was exposed as a fraud once in the position.
Eric Black hasn’t had a managers job since being sacked. There isn’t much evidence to suggest he would have been a long term success here.
The most pivotal moment in our recent history in my opinion was a game in 2010 - Coventry 2 Leeds 3 - We were 4th or 5th in the championship and lost the game - The following week it was discussed we needed 2 or 3 new players to make a decent challenge for promotion or operation premiership it was named as I recall –The signings never came and It seems from that moment the wheels came off and we fell from challenging for promotion and ending up in league 2What do you think are the pivotal moments where it all went wrong or right?
Not giving Jimmy Hill the contract he wanted (10 years)
Not employing Brian Clough as manager - he went to Forest instead.
Selling Highfield Road.
Sacking Eric Black and employing Peter Reid. Not saying Black would have been that good but light years ahead of Reid.
Most of the managers from Coleman onwards.
Selling Wilson too cheaply.
Letting Sisu take all the shares.
Think we asked for help and they stepped ingetting involved with coventry city council to develop arena biggest ever mistake
If we'd have known that it would have resulted in us having no stake in the arena would we have done it though?Think we asked for help and they stepped in
Think we asked for help and they stepped in
Eric Black hasn’t had a managers job since being sacked. There isn’t much evidence to suggest he would have been a long term success here.
I know that the all seater stadium resulted in a big drop in attendance.From memory I think that you had to buy tickets in advance of the game, no pay on the gate. This was a radical change, particularly pre Internet days as it meant that you had to turn up at the ticket office sometime in the week to get the ticket. This put a lot of people off.Jimmy Hill was involved in two large pivotal moments the massive 5 years as manager that propelled us to the top division but there was a few years later him being chairman/ managing director not sure what his title really was the first as manager deserved that statue but his second coming perhaps that statue deserved to be thrown in the canal. It was a difficult time though our finances were through the floor but his all seater decision was a disaster cutting out gates by a few thousand at a stroke certainly affected our finances Sexton managed to get a crop of good young talent coming through our youth set up but it was flogged off just as it was starting to blossom.
The most pivotal moment in our recent history in my opinion was a game in 2010 - Coventry 2 Leeds 3 - We were 4th or 5th in the championship and lost the game - The following week it was discussed we needed 2 or 3 new players to make a decent challenge for promotion or operation premiership it was named as I recall –The signings never came and It seems from that moment the wheels came off and we fell from challenging for promotion and ending up in league 2
Can’t really remember the squad under Coleman. Instead of me researching it, care to enlighten me who the talented youngsters were?What about actually giving Chris Coleman the managers job?
He took probably our most talented squad of youngsters since relegation from the Prem and turned them into the most boring, defensive and flaky team we had.
Massive opportunity missed to go back up.
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Can’t really remember the squad under Coleman. Instead of me researching it, care to enlighten me who the talented youngsters were?
Talented youngster season for me was 15/16 when we sunk like a rock in the new year. Wasted so much that session under Mowbray who brought class players in on loan.
What do you think are the pivotal moments where it all went wrong or right?
Not giving Jimmy Hill the contract he wanted (10 years)
Not employing Brian Clough as manager - he went to Forest instead.
Selling Highfield Road.
Sacking Eric Black and employing Peter Reid. Not saying Black would have been that good but light years ahead of Reid.
Most of the managers from Coleman onwards.
Selling Wilson too cheaply.
Letting Sisu take all the shares.
McAllister leaving on a free same summer as selling Keane. Should have tied McAllister down long before Liverpool turned his head. Cba to do the maths but the 2 of them going can't have been far off 2/3rds of our goals taken out of the team. What could go wrong?
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I happen to know when Heskey went to Liverpool, he was persuaded by Oneal to sign a new contract so Leicester could benefit from a fee for him. A player moving on but helping his home town team. Classy. McCallister should have been offered the same.
Up until that final season McAllister (IMO at least) had been pretty underwhelming for what we were paying him. Had we got him onto a new contract at that time it would've been questioned because he wasn't doing enough to warrant it. He then had a great stint with us in the last year of his contract which is why Liverpool came calling. I don't think they would've done without that upturn in form. Had he had his Cov career in reverse (started well and then been largely ineffective for two years) less people would've been bothered about his leaving.
Allison was no managerial veteran either, Allison had zero success as a manager with any English club and you are squeezing the narrative to suit your point. Cantwell got us in to Europe, Allison ruined Man City. Allison not coming to Coventry wasn’t detrimental to our club and in hindsight a lucky escape.You are correct you can only judge in hindsight and if you read the title of this thread it says pivotal moments and in my opinion not hiring Malcolm Allison at that time and hiring Noel Cantwell who had no manager experience at all was a mistake and possibly a pivotal moment at that time Allison went on with Joe Mercer to win half a dozen trophies with Manchester City who became one of the best teams in the country, Noel went to Peterborough.
This was the time of the boardroom changes and a protracted pursuit and signing of Marlon King ,a quality striker no doubt,but from there and the game you mention the wheels came off.The most pivotal moment in our recent history in my opinion was a game in 2010 - Coventry 2 Leeds 3 - We were 4th or 5th in the championship and lost the game - The following week it was discussed we needed 2 or 3 new players to make a decent challenge for promotion or operation premiership it was named as I recall –The signings never came and It seems from that moment the wheels came off and we fell from challenging for promotion and ending up in league 2
The most pivotal moment in our recent history in my opinion was a game in 2010 - Coventry 2 Leeds 3 - We were 4th or 5th in the championship and lost the game - The following week it was discussed we needed 2 or 3 new players to make a decent challenge for promotion or operation premiership it was named as I recall –The signings never came and It seems from that moment the wheels came off and we fell from challenging for promotion and ending up in league 2
Bringing in Jim Smith as the assistant manager Roland Nilssen didn’t need. He signed Paul Trollope and Horacio Carbonari and literally organised fights between players in training.On a similar note, and i've mentioned this on here before... first season down in the championship, fairly early on, we were doing well and were at home to Norwich... i think (possibly incorrectly) that Norwich were top and we were 2nd... a win for us would have put us either top, or clear in 2nd with a decent gap above the playoffs...
It was an evening match and i was in the West terrace, it was the match where Ritchie Partridge scored an absolute screamer to give us the lead. We were cruising to victory but then a horrific deflection right near the end gave them an underserved equaliser.
We drew 1-1, never managed to create that gap over the chasing pack, and our form dipped from there.
I honestly believe that had we held on and won that match, we would have gone straight back up automatically. Even the national radio/tv pundits were saying at the time that we were looking like a Premier League team just waiting to go back up.
And the rest is history...!
I lived in the Black Country when Ron was manager at West Brom. Their fans seemed to think Ron had got lucky inheriting a brilliant team. Think it was Ronnie Allen then Johnny Giles who built most of the team that built his rep. They were brilliant however. beating us 6-1 I remember when I went. At Man U he seemed to buy good players with absolutely no idea how they would fit together. Using Birtles as a traditional centre forward that did not work. Did he sell Laurie Cunningham?Recent history:
Notts County away. Max's second goal after 20-30 minutes of continuous pressure from County after half time with the tie in the balance was one of our most important goals in recent history. If you look at the respective clubs today in terms of League position - that game was very very important.
Going back in time:
Big Ron was appointed on reputation (way past his best) and we gave him millions - only to disastrously take us to the brink of relegation. Followed by a very inexperienced Strachan who consistently failed to address key issues with the team. He should have gone far sooner. If we'd had a decent manager combined with the funds available at that time - we should have been in with a good shout of Europe...instead given poor consecutive management by the two clowns above we headed through the relegation trapdoor.
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