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Game swung slightly once he went off a lot of his work goes unnoticed the poor marks come from him getting caught or a mis placed passes
Game swung slightly once he went off a lot of his work goes unnoticed the poor marks come from him getting caught or a mis placed passesWilson 7
Pask 7
Osti 7
Hyam 6
McCallum 5
Sheaf 8
Hamer 7
James 7
O'Hare 7
Biamou 7
Viktor 7
Subs
Shipley 5
I'm really surprised about the low marks for Sheaf, I thought it was his best games. Got an assist, tackled well, passed the ball well.
To put sheaf performance into numbers
5 tackles
1 clearance
4 aerials won
58 touches
1 shot
1 assist
2 key passes
2 dribbles
37 passes
78.4% pass completion rate.
Even WhoScored rated highest
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Shipley plays 20 minutes, has a very average game, nothing too good, nothing too bad, and gets pelters on here. Some of the scores and comments appear to be tainted by a dislike of the player rather than what actually happened on the pitch today.
James 8 (compliments Hamer so well...)
His first 3 passes he gave away possession. He gets pelters because he isnt good enough simple as thatShipley plays 20 minutes, has a very average game, nothing too good, nothing too bad, and gets pelters on here. Some of the scores and comments appear to be tainted by a dislike of the player rather than what actually happened on the pitch today.
Not from me he didn’t. If you look at the scores etc-not sure anyone gave him more than a 5 for 90 minutes of football.Some of this
It's cringeworthy to the point of obsession in some. The match thread before he'd come on was farcical. You don't need to rate him or even like him but ffs support him as we should with anyone wearing our colours. The disrespectful insults particularly from floyd and 84 are embarrassing like playground bullies with a pack mentality. McCallum a loanee now, was shocking especially in the first half not just the penalty that cost us three points but gets a free pass. I'd have probably bought Allen on ahead of him too, but to read these you'd think he scored 3 own goals and laughed at it.
Apparently it was 14 timesHow many times did he touch the ball do you reckon? One point for each time?
Shipley plays 20 minutes, has a very average game, nothing too good, nothing too bad, and gets pelters on here. Some of the scores and comments appear to be tainted by a dislike of the player rather than what actually happened on the pitch today.
Not the scores Adge, the abuse. I don't want to see Sam given abuse either, but if anyone cost us today it was him yet to read this thread you'd think different. I'm not saying Ships played well, I'm not saying I'd have selected him or even brought him on and I also agree a spell out in the u23 might do him good, but the manager selects him and the outright hatred on here and the match thread is unnecessary and to suggest as some have that he wasn't trying is disrespectful.Not from me he didn’t. If you look at the scores etc-not sure anyone gave him more than a 5 for 90 minutes of football.
Shipley got the same for 20 odd minutes of football.
It appeared to me and many others that he wasn't trying. If he was then he should at least show he is.Not the scores Adge, the abuse. I don't want to see Sam given abuse either, but if anyone cost us today it was him yet to read this thread you'd think different. I'm not saying Ships played well, I'm not saying I'd have selected him or even brought him on and I also agree a spell out in the u23 might do him good, but the manager selects him and the outright hatred on here and the match thread is unnecessary and to suggest as some have that he wasn't trying is disrespectful.
Must admit I find it sad that some so called fans are after Shipley’s blood . OK the lads having a poor spell but talk about hero to zero . This is supposed to be a SUPPORTERS forumAnd tbf they had less corners once he came on.
You would have thought we had played really well that second half they way people have been harking on, but we were poor before he came on and not a lot changed mind you we could have won it twice while he was on.
Bit like knocking points off because Max made a pass instead of shooting, why not take points off every player for every bad decision some would be on minus points.
Must admit I find it sad that some so called fans are after Shipley’s blood . OK the lads having a poor spell but talk about hero to zero . This is supposed to be a SUPPORTERS forum
Some of the vitriol is appalling in my opinion.
He doesn't look up to Championship standard but that's not his fault. Hopefully if we stay up and the squad improves we can ship out a couple of the struggling players but without major investment it will take time.
Osti was magnificentThought Osti was head and shoulders above Hyam yesterday and carried the back 4 through most of that game. Aside from that header Hyam spooned into the air in the box, there were a couple of other occasions where he let long balls bounce around him when he should have been making sure he got anything on the end of them.
Pask did ok at RB but like Hyam he's also very passive. I'm not surprised Birmingham thought they could get away with kicking the shit out of us. Would like to see Pask bulk up a bit if he's ever going to be a first choice CB somewhere, he looks very lightweight.
The problem is we cannot really afford to put the first team fringe players in the unders because the squad is now so small what does confuse me is keep persisting with Shipley when its obvious to all and sundry he is struggling game after game but Allen who is performing infinitely better, this is not a thread of 'vitriol' aimed at anyone this is fact. Robins has players in better form but doesn't use them...so what if they look good in training its the games he's judged on.Like a lot of people think that Allen deserves a run in the side or off the bench as at the moment at least you know he's on the pitch, as for shippers who I like I feel he needs some time with the u23 playing himself into some form which would benefit him and the 1st team.
Hyam keeps getting caught wrong side, he was very lucky to get away with it near the end where Juke had the shot (which Hyam admittedly got back to block).Thought Osti was head and shoulders above Hyam yesterday and carried the back 4 through most of that game. Aside from that header Hyam spooned into the air in the box, there were a couple of other occasions where he let long balls bounce around him when he should have been making sure he got anything on the end of them.
Pask did ok at RB but like Hyam he's also very passive. I'm not surprised Birmingham thought they could get away with kicking the shit out of us. Would like to see Pask bulk up a bit if he's ever going to be a first choice CB somewhere, he looks very lightweight.
I agree. I'm not one for getting on players backs tbh and I think we have a pretty good bunch right now but I die a little inside every time he steps on the pitch atm. As soon as he was brought on yesterday I was just praying for a draw.For the people getting upset about Shipley being criticised. Has anyone actually said anything abusive? Faking outrage is not a counter argument.
Average performances (such as against Millwall) are now being made out to be something more than that, and terrible performances where he is blatantly hiding for the most part are being excused. In fact, even when he is hiding, some people are using that to say 'he did nothing wrong'.
The substitution yesterday was wrong yet again and he should be nowhere near the first team. Look at players like O'Hare when they have been out of form, still fighting for everything. All Shipley does is pretend he was the pitch invader against Forest Green that time. I'm not sure why it is unreasonable to question his attitude where it looks like he is doing everything to show he doesn't want to be there.
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Actually, scrap that. The pitch invader showed more desire to win the ball.
Problem is Allen doesn't deserve to be in the side ahead of Hamer, James, Sheaf or O'Hare, but I agree he should be sub before Shipley.Like a lot of people think that Allen deserves a run in the side or off the bench as at the moment at least you know he's on the pitch, as for shippers who I like I feel he needs some time with the u23 playing himself into some form which would benefit him and the 1st team.
That's my piontProblem is Allen doesn't deserve to be in the side ahead of Hamer, James, Sheaf or O'Hare, but I agree he should be sub before Shipley.
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