Sorry but that is tosh. He put numerous crosses on, hit the bar, and worked created a couple of openings for adams in the first half. In the second he put that cross in for clarke header that went narrowly wide, also provided the cross when clarke effort was cleared off the line, shit another great shot where McGoldrick nearly scored from the rebound. He was always driving forward and was a constant threat on the left hand side with Adams.
It was an awful miss but overall he was our biggest attacking threat today. Baker on the other hand was gash.
Who was more effective today - baker or mcsheffrey?
Numerous crosses into the crowd yes. Made one opening for Adams yes. It wasn't sheffers witch the cross for Clarke it was baker. Yeah his first good corner of the match for Clarke second chance. Driving forward when he just passed to Adams to do it all.
Fleck doesn't have more goals they both have 2.
When did I say baker was better? Both we're crap but sheffers was better as he did do one-two good things
You rated them the same.
I stand corrected but still one or two good crosses in a match when he had so many opportunities is not good enoughYour wrong Clarkes first header came from a left wing cross from mcsheffrey......
But Clarke, who scored two of his outstanding 11 in 15 league games for Sc-unithorpe against the Sky Blues, almost made himself an instant hero when he glanced a Gary McSheffrey cross inches wide with his very first touch of his City career.
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I stand corrected but still one or two good crosses in a match when he had so many opportunities is not good enough
But still much better than any of his attacking team mates today.
Yeah everybody was shit today but sheffers had some of the best opportunities and fecked them up
He missed an open goal, he failed, as per, in his defensive duties, thankfully Adams more than coped.
Down the left, Adams was more of a threat, put in good crosses and cut in to have shots, the real Adams. McSheffrey was good 1st half, probably a 7 at this point, but 2nd half, about a 5 and because he missed an open goal, I stuck with 5.
Say what you like about Fleck, everyone is entitled to an opinion on how football should be played, but the midfield dominated in the 1st half, caught on the break a couple of times, and Fleck was at the centre of that, switching play, playing tasty passes for Adams to latch on, he also let Moussa and McSheffrey go forward, and in McSheffrey's case, cut in. When Fleck got substituted, the whole midfield's performances dropped, Moussa weren't getting forward, McSheff weren't cutting in, there wasn't much. We had to resort to crossing it in to McG or Clarke.
When Clarke came on, he was our biggest threat.
Think you are missing the point slightly, Taylor. The midfield's performance dropped when Fleck went off because we replaced a midfielder with an attacker.
Think you are missing the point slightly, Taylor. The midfield's performance dropped when Fleck went off because we replaced a midfielder with an attacker.
How have I missed the point?
I may as well have wrote an essay on the formation 4-4-2 in pre-season, welcome to scroll through my comments.
Moving to 4-4-2 didn't help, that said, we also missed out on the passing prowess of Fleck (especially with Bailey not on yet) and our passing game suffered because Fleck was taken off.
Also, if Fleck was as bad as some make out, or 'non existent', wouldn't we have done better when we took him off? He is a good player who is having trouble winning over some.
Probably doesn't matter on FIFA 2012 especially if Barcelona is your selected team.
How have I missed the point?
I may as well have wrote an essay on the formation 4-4-2 in pre-season, welcome to scroll through my comments.
Moving to 4-4-2 didn't help, that said, we also missed out on the passing prowess of Fleck (especially with Bailey not on yet) and our passing game suffered because Fleck was taken off.
Also, if Fleck was as bad as some make out, or 'non existent', wouldn't we have done better when we took him off? He is a good player who is having trouble winning over some.
Missed the point, because you said the midfield's performance dropped when Fleck went off. We replaced a midfielder with a striker, therefore weakened the midfield to strengthen the attack.
That therefore is not down to it being because of Fleck, it is down to the fact that we had one less in midfield.
And all I can say about his performance is, you obviously didn't watch him when he didn't have the ball. It was quite shocking at times. Dare I say it, school boy stuff.
When he hasn't got the ball he's a liability. We should have taken him off at half-time and brought Bailey on.
2 upfront changed our shape and it didn't work.
Guess MR wanted to try DMC and Clarke together.
There is no doubt at all about Fleck's ability when he's on the ball.
If it was a straight choice between sheff and fleck for the position sheff has been playing in I would pick sheff on current form.
What form? He's dipping as well, last 2 games Fleck has been the better player of the 2.
I wouldn't play Fleck LM, I'd play him AMC in a 'free role', with Moussa on the wing, a more pacey, skillful player on the ball and better defensively than shufty.
Do you think we have won more games with fleck in the team or out of the team.
Sheffs goal ratio is awful. A goal every 14 games or something?
We've won a fair few when he's played.
We don't win or lose because Fleck plays or doesn't play.
On that logic, what about McSheff last season :facepalm:
Weak link Grendel, step it up a bit.
We have won 8 games in the league when mcsheffrey has started and 3 with fleck. Of course win ratios mean nothing.
Interestingly mcsheffrey didn't start any of the first seven games under thorn and shaw.
Sheff is a much better option than Fleck for me.
Trouble is though, they don't usually play in the same position anyway, so it's a moot point.
Fleck's off the ball play is quite shocking. Fully expect him to be dropped in favour of Bailey.
Wasn't one of flecks goals a pen? So just one goal from open play each then.
disgusting to see some posters trying to make fleck into the next boo victim
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