Agreed, thought he was poor tonight. People seem to get enamoured by him trying some fancy balls a few times a game but he gives the ball away a lot and for a defensive midfielder he let's players waltz past him far too easily.Don't get the Hamer praise tbh. Can't remember him making more than 3 passes.
I like Shipley but he's got a bit of a swagger about him where it looks like he doesn't have to earn this. It's the championship now mate, I said in the match thread that ball across the 6 yard box he should have put the ball, defender and goalie in the top corner. It's what us fans would doWill people finally accept that kissing the badge doesnt escape the fact that Shipley isnt good enough for this level. No tackles of note, no passes to our own players of note. In this league you cant get away with performances like that and its becoming the norm for him. Sentiment wont get us very far in the Championship.
I know people will still defend him when he has that one good performance in 20 games.
I accept he wasnt the only poor performer tonight and that Robins has forgotten more about football than I will ever know but come on, that was not good enough.
Hopefully , I will have calmed down come the morning
Unfortunately some put sentiment above ability, the fact some are calling for Biamou at this level is weird.Will people finally accept that kissing the badge doesnt escape the fact that Shipley isnt good enough for this level. No tackles of note, no passes to our own players of note. In this league you cant get away with performances like that and its becoming the norm for him. Sentiment wont get us very far in the Championship.
I know people will still defend him when he has that one good performance in 20 games.
I accept he wasnt the only poor performer tonight and that Robins has forgotten more about football than I will ever know but come on, that was not good enough.
Hopefully , I will have calmed down come the morning
Hyam “ok” he was caught wanting with positional awareness for their goalI’ve reverted to “reward absolute mediocrity with a 6 not a 5” standard of rating.
Marosi - 6 couple of good bits of control and passing and generally a calming influence. Perfectly good keeper at this level but wasn’t his best match
McCallum - 6 not as good as his last couple of matches but did ok. Just ok. Not good but ok.
Ostigard - 6 did ok. Didn’t look out of place.
Mcfadzean- 7 doing well at this level and even got forward and did better in one run than others managed all
Game.
Hyam - 6 again, ok.
Giles - 6 just ok. Puts in a couple of great crosses each match. Gets forward.
Hamer - 6. Better with him in the team. Great dead ball delivery. Has a touch of quality. Has lost some of his fire which is understandable.
Sheaf - 3. Don’t care about “passing stats being good”. Back passes and safe uncreative passes are not good passes. One of his passes put one of their players clean through. Loses the ball often. Breaks up play well. Unfortunately for both sides.
Shipley - 4. Poor game. He’s bulked out which is good in some ways but he’s as mobile as haggis now.
Allen - 3. The creativity of one of Bernhard Matthews mushed up turkey burgers. Sorry. Rather he didn’t play.
Godden - 5. He’s a good player playing in the wrong system. Not any kind of target man. Watch the game back. As soon as the ball is kicked to him on the floor and his back is to goal he stands still rather than move toward. It’s like someone has glued his boots to the pitch for a second. Why play him target man? Crackers.
Subs
Dabo - ok 6
Walker - Walked about
O Hare. Not on his game.
Overall
The commentators picked up that Warnock was great in the Championship and can get teams promoted to the Prem. Doesn’t suit the prem.
Please, am I right to worry that MR was great with Rotherham, Barnsley, etc until they got to the Championship?
Mark is a brilliant manager. He needs to get used to the “gamesmanship” that other managers use in the Championship (diving, time wasting, yard stealing, player winding up).
And, realise that Godden isn’t 6’3’ and Allen isn’t quick.
Quickly.
Robins' 2 seasons with Barnsley were both in the Championship where he kept them up twice, so do your researchI’ve reverted to “reward absolute mediocrity with a 6 not a 5” standard of rating.
Marosi - 6 couple of good bits of control and passing and generally a calming influence. Perfectly good keeper at this level but wasn’t his best match
McCallum - 6 not as good as his last couple of matches but did ok. Just ok. Not good but ok.
Ostigard - 6 did ok. Didn’t look out of place.
Mcfadzean- 7 doing well at this level and even got forward and did better in one run than others managed all
Game.
Hyam - 6 again, ok.
Giles - 6 just ok. Puts in a couple of great crosses each match. Gets forward.
Hamer - 6. Better with him in the team. Great dead ball delivery. Has a touch of quality. Has lost some of his fire which is understandable.
Sheaf - 3. Don’t care about “passing stats being good”. Back passes and safe uncreative passes are not good passes. One of his passes put one of their players clean through. Loses the ball often. Breaks up play well. Unfortunately for both sides.
Shipley - 4. Poor game. He’s bulked out which is good in some ways but he’s as mobile as haggis now.
Allen - 3. The creativity of one of Bernhard Matthews mushed up turkey burgers. Sorry. Rather he didn’t play.
Godden - 5. He’s a good player playing in the wrong system. Not any kind of target man. Watch the game back. As soon as the ball is kicked to him on the floor and his back is to goal he stands still rather than move toward. It’s like someone has glued his boots to the pitch for a second. Why play him target man? Crackers.
Subs
Dabo - ok 6
Walker - Walked about
O Hare. Not on his game.
Overall
The commentators picked up that Warnock was great in the Championship and can get teams promoted to the Prem. Doesn’t suit the prem.
Please, am I right to worry that MR was great with Rotherham, Barnsley, etc until they got to the Championship?
Mark is a brilliant manager. He needs to get used to the “gamesmanship” that other managers use in the Championship (diving, time wasting, yard stealing, player winding up).
And, realise that Godden isn’t 6’3’ and Allen isn’t quick.
Quickly.
Sheaf was one of very few positives mate.Looks like I'm the only one who thought Sheaf was good. In fact him and Hamer looked like they comfortably belonged at this level for the first time, expecting good things from these two.
Still scored more than BaylissShipley doesn’t need reminding he was especially poor tonight. Probably his worst this season
Still scored more than Bayliss
I’ve reverted to “reward absolute mediocrity with a 6 not a 5” standard of rating.
Hamer - 6. Better with him in the team. Great dead ball delivery. Has a touch of quality. Has lost some of his fire which is understandable.
Sheaf - 3. Don’t care about “passing stats being good”. Back passes and safe uncreative passes are not good passes. One of his passes put one of their players clean through. Loses the ball often. Breaks up play well. Unfortunately for both sides.
Shipley - 4. Poor game. He’s bulked out which is good in some ways but he’s as mobile as haggis now.
Hamer was shite last night. Sheaf was the pick the midfieldersUtter drivel.
But for that one crazy ball, Sheaf was pretty good - between him & Østigård for MotM.
To rate him lower than Shipley whilst giving Hamer a 6 is bonkers.
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