It makes me laugh how some people on here use the new owners argument to want to keep Sisu at the helm !!
Some seem to believe that if we got new owners and returned to the Ricoh that automatically the rent would be 1.3million. Come on guys that deal is long dead !!!!
So you admit then that the 1.3million a year rent is long dead ?
It won't matter if its £400,000 - unless the revenues are offered as part of the package along with shares in the management company (for free) no one will want the club.
If there's one thing that will truly make the club unattractive, it's the disenfranchised, divided and ruined customer base. All else pales into insignificance. You're in business. You know that
If the club returned to Coventry its customer base will also return. Especially after a years absence - you know that. Football is not like a typical product. If your favourite ginger biscuit company stops producing you switch brands and may not return when they produce again. Football is different.
Stupot is entirely correct in his assertion that the club will not return unless it is enticed back. It needs to be viewed as an asset by the council as a way of increasing its worth. Whatever ACL's financial position its ludicrous to pretend that the ground itself is not now a burden rather than a benefit. The irony is if a real deal is there on the table sisu will more than likely look to sell as the asset value of the club would rise overnight.
I am convinced that a total, complete and absolute boycott of Sixfields would bring attention to our plight that would force a change in tact within all sides who can bring influence to bear
Oh no it won't. Those that go to Northampton know it wouldn't help for sure.
Explain why it would help.
Even ACL and the council know they can't get away with that anymore. Everyone talks about new tenants - rugby franchises etc. the only way this ground is attractive is if it generates additional revenue other than through the turnstiles. So any new tenant will want a piece of the action as part of the inducement to come. The council need now to see the club in that light.
Explain why it would help.
Explain why it would help.
You know it would. A few less fans gets us headlines. Zero fans would make headlines week in, week out. In anything would embarrass the FL into action it would be this
Rubbish. I think SISU and the FL are above embarrassment and unfavourable headlines.
Why then did sisu threaten to sue The Guardian for printing a factually correct article??
You know it would. A few less fans gets us headlines. Zero fans would make headlines week in, week out. In anything would embarrass the FL into action it would be this
Why then did sisu threaten to sue The Guardian for printing a factually correct article??
Rubbish. I think SISU and the FL are above embarrassment and unfavourable headlines.
I don't support sisu, and I haven't got Stockholm syndrome. It's about context. Piling in money (not as much as some owners) to fund losses year in year out, lack of sustainable plan (judges words) leads to the only option (get the Ricoh and revenues). We should have slashed out wage bill earlier, and we should have bought back our half of ACL or at the very least renegotiated a lower rent at the beginning.
Virtually all football team lose money, it's wrong and would be allowed to happen in any other industry.
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It wouldn't help.
a) We've seen how ridiculously divisive such a boycott is. It detracts from actual issues and allows people to turn against those who haven't caused this - that's utterly pointless and ridiculous and, indeed, falls helps out the protagonists rather than hinders;
b) You'll never get 100% for anything; why badger people with a different view?
c) It looks like apathy. Have to always consider not what you want it to look like, but what it might look like also.
d) Proactive looks better. A better pressure would be if thousands were milling around Northampton, Coventry... London. Desperate to watch a football match but unable to do so even if they wanted to, as the capacity is finite and below what it should be.
Pragmatically, a far more constructive protest would be one that seeks to include as many as possible (next Saturday, for example) rather than exclude.
To be fair, the same people telling us no fans will ever work are the same ones that tend to be quite negative about anything, including the Why protest and last year's march (arguably our two most successful protests).
The logic is fairly sound: 1500 fans can be explained as a few bad apples and difficulty getting to the ground. 0 fans says that the fans as a whole reject the idea. The argument of "not everyone will do it" is silly and could apply to any co-ordinated action.
I'm not saying it'll work, as people are dug into their positions (as post JR verdict has proven), but I don't think those who wish for such a thing should be condemned.
I still favour the idea of one big protest at Sixfields inside and out, everyone together. But I think the point for that was the end of last season, would need to be a TV game or something now.
It's not silly, it's realistic. It's also eminently sensible to look for an inclusive effort rather than the battering of opposition.
What's nonsensical is to push for disruptive confrontation amongst the pockets of people who are certainly not to blame.
I've also suggested alternatives, so it's not like I haven't but, well... people seem negative about my alternatives.
Don't necessarily need the game televised if we get sufficient media sources up for covering it. Our league is sponsored by Sky after all...
Just playing devil's advocate NW. If crowds of 0 suggest apathy then crowds of 7,500 can be seen to show support for what the club's doing.
We went from 0-60 on that. We made no effort to negotiate access to revenues or a rent reduction until after we had boycotted paying the latter. The reality is that Joy gambled on ACL's ability to survive without the club as that would offer the fastest way of securing the Ricoh. Her gamble has failed and she now has to either make a serious effort to get a stadium built or to get around the table with ACL and the Council.
Neither looks all that likely.
You don't know how the gamble has worked as you don't know the timescale she will be prepared to work to. Say its 4 years -what then?
To be fair, the same people telling us no fans will ever work are the same ones that tend to be quite negative about anything, including the Why protest and last year's march (arguably our two most successful protests).
The logic is fairly sound: 1500 fans can be explained as a few bad apples and difficulty getting to the ground. 0 fans says that the fans as a whole reject the idea. The argument of "not everyone will do it" is silly and could apply to any co-ordinated action.
I'm not saying it'll work, as people are dug into their positions (as post JR verdict has proven), but I don't think those who wish for such a thing should be condemned.
I still favour the idea of one big protest at Sixfields inside and out, everyone together. But I think the point for that was the end of last season, would need to be a TV game or something now.
Really, I can't recall anyone being negative about those.
Then she loses that much money that she will never recover.
Who/how many will be left to go to the lego stadium or the Ricoh after that amount of time?
Sorry She Bet on red should have been sky blue.
As soon as the administration order was raised I said Pandora's box has opened and no one knows the hell that will be unleashed.
You don't know how the gamble has worked as you don't know the timescale she will be prepared to work to. Say its 4 years -what then?
The real money lost is far less. It's a daunting stat that the cost of being in sixfields is probably £2 million tips and with proper financial management the club could lose less money than they had at the Ricoh.
As soon as the administration order was raised I said Pandora's box has opened and no one knows the hell that will be unleashed. This will run and run.
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