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Monty · Aug 22, 2021

Slightly tongue in cheek

So when we get promoted at the end of the season, do we spend big to try and stay there or do we let the team that got us there compete and use the money to pay debts and build the new stadium?
I am thinking a little expenditure but just to fill the clear holes currently filled by loans and possibly another cd as mcfadzean will be a year older.

matesx · Aug 22, 2021

Realistically though a top 10 finish would be brilliant.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Aug 22, 2021

Monty said:
Slightly tongue in cheek

So when we get promoted at the end of the season, do we spend big to try and stay there or do we let the team that got us there compete and use the money to pay debts and build the new stadium?
I am thinking a little expenditure but just to fill the clear holes currently filled by loans and possibly another cd as mcfadzean will be a year older.

The latter

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Aug 22, 2021

Teams who spend big lose their team cohesion as we saw with Fulham first time around

(premoted teams)

CDK · Aug 22, 2021

Comfortable midtable this season will do, playoffs next season.

Gint11 · Aug 22, 2021

If we get promoted, give Waghorn what he wants ain’t that right @Greggs?

Winny the Bish · Aug 22, 2021

Promoted this season. Buy ZERO players in the summer and pocket all the lovely Prem money to finally build a shitting stadium we actually own.

Fine...maybe I can stretch to Osti on a permanent, but if it means we have to have Carling on the concourses then I blame you lot.

stay_up_skyblues · Aug 22, 2021

Tongue in check or not it’s classic SBT to talk of planning for the Prem after a couple of wins when we loose two we should just include the league 1 promotion plan here also, save clogging up the board.

SkyblueDad · Aug 22, 2021

skyblue93 said:
Promoted this season. Buy ZERO players in the summer and pocket all the lovely Prem money to finally build a shitting stadium we actually own.

Fine...maybe I can stretch to Osti on a permanent, but if it means we have to have Carling on the concourses then I blame you lot.

While we would all be celebrating a return to the promised land none would be greater than within the bowels of SISU HQ as the bulk of the massive tv money we acquire evaporates quicker than Dynamo could make it go disappear.

Alkhen · Aug 22, 2021

Love the positivity on here, refreshing change to the doom and gloom some peddle.

We do need to temper expectations a bit, the opening 4 fixtures have been so much kinder than last season. Last seasons first 10 were so brutal it was painful coming on here. More difficult patches will come and we need to remember a few losses does not reverse the good work put down.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Aug 22, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Teams who spend big lose their team cohesion as we saw with Fulham first time around

(premoted teams)

That's a bit unfair isn't it? Sending teams up before a game's been played.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Aug 22, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's a bit unfair isn't it? Sending teams up before a game's been played.

I dont see anything unfair about what I said all I said is the first time around they went up they spent big bucks and lost their team cohesion

pipkin73 · Aug 22, 2021

Just a jibe at your spelling mate.
You put PREmoted rather that PROmoted

rob9872 · Aug 23, 2021

I'd be more than happy to rely on loans and get relegated with zero points for a year's cash and parachute payments, which could make us stable for years to come, but bottom of the table with no points and they'd be calling for heads to roll in October and demanding we splash the cash on some hasbeen wanting a last payday in January. In a way part of me would rather not go up, but I know if we were genuinely in with shout in March or April that I'd have changed my tune.

Fergusons_Beard · Aug 23, 2021

Monty said:
Slightly tongue in cheek

So when we get promoted at the end of the season, do we spend big to try and stay there or do we let the team that got us there compete and use the money to pay debts and build the new stadium?
I am thinking a little expenditure but just to fill the clear holes currently filled by loans and possibly another cd as mcfadzean will be a year older.

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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Aug 23, 2021

Ronaldo is out of contract next summer i think so i'd bring him in as backup to Godden and sign a leftback, we'd be pretty much set after that i'd think?

Grendel · Aug 23, 2021

rob9872 said:
I'd be more than happy to rely on loans and get relegated with zero points for a year's cash and parachute payments, which could make us stable for years to come, but bottom of the table with no points and they'd be calling for heads to roll in October and demanding we splash the cash on some hasbeen wanting a last payday in January. In a way part of me would rather not go up, but I know if we were genuinely in with shout in March or April that I'd have changed my tune.

The owners would most likely allow the club to see very little of the money - this would allow them to give significant returns to their investors for several years to come - in fact they probably would totally switch off on the playing side as they can feed payments for 3-4 years out of the club and start the process of settling loans and interest payments

The club as ever will be an afterthought

fernandopartridge · Aug 23, 2021

Grendel said:
The owners would most likely allow the club to see very little of the money - this would allow them to give significant returns to their investors for several years to come - in fact they probably would totally switch off on the playing side as they can feed payments for 3-4 years out of the club and start the process of settling loans and interest payments

The club as ever will be an afterthought

What are the parachute payment terms for a club that has spent a single season in the top flight? Are they the same as a club that has been relegated after many years i.e. 3 years or so? Either way, you're right that they'd hold on to extract as much capital as possible

SkyblueDad · Aug 23, 2021

The thought of sisu getting their hands on the treasure chest the premier brings fills me with terror, reserve players are on a million a year and three year contracts wouldn’t bother Joy one iota if she bails out with her pockets full of prem. loot and leave the high contracts behind.

steve cooper · Aug 23, 2021

So, lets say we did manage to get promotion. We would likely get relegated the first year, the owners would take the major proportion of the money generated from the season in the prem. What then?
Another go at promotion would seem to be the obvious way forward otherwise the last 4 years would seem pointless.
A yo-yo scenario of, say 2 or 3 seasons in the premiership over the next few years would be ideal from an owners point of view.

Grendel · Aug 23, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
What are the parachute payment terms for a club that has spent a single season in the top flight? Are they the same as a club that has been relegated after many years i.e. 3 years or so? Either way, you're right that they'd hold on to extract as much capital as possible

The clubs dont get the 3rd payment if they go back down

Deleted member 2477 · Aug 23, 2021

Follow the Norwich model. Get promoted to prem pocket the promotion money but dont spend enough to stay up.
pocket the relegation parachute payment and spend a bit to get promoted again and so it goes on.
The bank balance grows and the team gradually get stronger.

realistically we wouldnt have the finances or backing to stay in the prem and fans would soon get tired of seeing the team get walloped every week with only a realistic cup run to look forward to a long with match day tickets and season tickets twice as expensive.

cc84cov · Aug 23, 2021

Grendel · Aug 23, 2021

marcusp said:
Follow the Norwich model. Get promoted to prem pocket the promotion money but dont spend enough to stay up.
pocket the relegation parachute payment and spend a bit to get promoted again and so it goes on.
The bank balance grows and the team gradually get stronger

Never will we follow that model

fernandopartridge · Aug 23, 2021

Grendel said:
Never will we follow that model

Not that, and it's of course very early days, it's a great model to follow from a supporter's perspective nor proven to gradually improve any teams.
Who'd want to write off entire seasons just for the benefit of the club's bank balance.

SlowerThanPlatt · Aug 23, 2021

marcusp said:
Follow the Norwich model. Get promoted to prem pocket the promotion money but dont spend enough to stay up.
pocket the relegation parachute payment and spend a bit to get promoted again and so it goes on.
The bank balance grows and the team gradually get stronger.

realistically we wouldnt have the finances or backing to stay in the prem and fans would soon get tired of seeing the team get walloped every week with only a realistic cup run to look forward to a long with match day tickets and season tickets twice as expensive.

Norwich aren’t deliberately not trying to stay up. It’s not a “model”

Deleted member 2477 · Aug 23, 2021

Makes sense in a way though Grendel.
big cash pot for the club every few years getting into a league they will never realistically compete in to win anything and the excitement of a realistic title challenge in the championship every two seasons to keep the fans interested

SlowerThanPlatt · Aug 23, 2021

marcusp said:
Makes sense in a way though Grendel.
big cash pot for the club every few years getting into a league they will never realistically compete in to win anything and the excitement of a realistic title challenge in the championship every two seasons to keep the fans interested

Staying in the Premier League is more valuable though

Jagmannn · Aug 23, 2021

Do you get more money by being relegated- or more for staying up?...so why not spend to stay up ?.
When Coventry were last in the premiership it was great thrill to watch the Super Stars of the opposition show there skills ....not many of them in the Championship

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