I don't disagree with you, and it's tempting to think three at the back with two up front might improve our results.I would move back to a 5-3-2 while the wingers aren’t playing the best
I don't see how you can look at Matty James and think he wouldn't improve us even in the slightest. Even if he had been on an all-inclusive beach resort for two months (which he hasn't). Is it a bit desperate? Yes. Are we a bit desperate? Also yes.
We badly need some leadership on the pitch, James would provide that. I think our application and probably results would improve almost instantly.
Because it just isn't a foregone conclusion.
Bringing him in also entirely depends on what his terms are and whether they're realistic.
For instance, if he's asking for ridiculous wages comparative to his worth and the role he'll play this season and wants a contract until the end of the year, perhaps longer, could that affect Robins' plans to bring in a permanent option in the January window? Even with moving Palmer on the budget at this stage is undoubtedly becoming stretched.
I want cover in the midfield as much as any poster on here, but bringing in a 33 yo third choice CM isn't going to solve all our issues overnight. You can't just throw mud at the wall and hope it sticks in these situations.
- Sign Matty James and Cyrus Christie
No but if you've got some mud there's more chance of it sticking than if you haven't!
Making decisions from a place of desperation will more often than not lead to a poor outcome.
Think the issue is not evolving the shape, remember Adi talking about a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 and wonder why we didn’t commit to the new shapes.I don't disagree with you, and it's tempting to think three at the back with two up front might improve our results.
But I guess it would be pretty funny for us to spend the summer of 2023 recruiting for 3 at the back, only to find that 4 at the back suited the squad better, and then to do the exact opposite the following year by recruiting for 4-2-3-1 and deciding to go back to a 3.
Let me give you a scenario, the next 2 games go our way, we're 3-0 up with 20 to go.
Sheaf and Eccles have ran themselves into the ground both games, but currently we can only take one off with 20 to go.
Another body with a bit of experience would have given up a bit more flexibility to give players a rest.
After Torp we're looking to Lati or Andrews.
I keep saying this, I'm not saying signing James was ideal, but far preferable to being as thin on the ground numbers wise as we are.
This is my exact issue with this argument though. You're making it sound like it's a foregone conclusion. Another body comes in = automatic success (or at the very least we're in a much better position).
The club doesn't have a bottomless pit of funds and the last few windows have skewed that perspective massively for much of the fanbase.
It's not ideal but it might be better that we just wait until January and reevaluate then rather than blow a chunk of the remaining budget on player who's being brought as nothing more than an expensive stop gap - regardless of how desperate we are currently.
This is my exact issue with this argument though. You're making it sound like it's a foregone conclusion. Another body comes in = automatic success (or at the very least we're in a much better position).
The club doesn't have a bottomless pit of funds and the last few windows have skewed that perspective massively for much of the fanbase.
It's not ideal but it might be better that we just wait until January and reevaluate then rather than blow a chunk of the remaining budget on player who's being brought as nothing more than an expensive stop gap - regardless of how desperate we are currently.
And you're jumping to some massive conclusions.
- getting somebody else in wouldn't make any difference
- we don't have the budget
Well, not doing anything won't improve matters and we had a chunk of money to blow on Stamenic back in June. Which highlights the fact the club knew we needed someone in that position two months before a ball was kicked.
A free agent could be a stop gap, nothing wrong with that IMHO, or could be a great addition to the squad.
Rights and wrongs with both opposing opinions but I don't agree it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
Well it appears implied mate?Once again haven't actually said either of those things.
Well it appears implied mate?
Well it appears implied mate?
Because it just isn't a foregone conclusion.
Bringing him in also entirely depends on what his terms are and whether they're realistic.
For instance, if he's asking for ridiculous wages comparative to his worth and the role he'll play this season and wants a contract until the end of the year, perhaps longer, could that affect Robins' plans to bring in a permanent option in the January window? Even with moving Palmer on the budget at this stage is undoubtedly stretched thin.
I want cover in the midfield as much as any poster on here, but bringing in a 33 yo third choice CM isn't going to solve all our issues overnight. You can't just throw mud at the wall and hope it sticks in these situations.
I don't see how we would be blowing a chunk of the remaining budget, respectively.
There's no transfer fee, and the player hasn't got a club, so wage negotiation leans in our favour. We've spent millions on players, so I don't really buy the risk of signing one free agent. It's pocket change in comparison and about as low risk as you can get.
I think it would work personally, but even if it didn't what is the worst case scenario? We pay someone for a few months who isn't doing a great job (hardly stopped us so far). I can't see how it would stop us singing someone in January either. It is a stop-gap you are right, but frankly we need it. It might not work, sure, but it's hardly going to fuck us by trying.
Who we going to sell this summer and for what fee currently something below last season!It's not going to fuck us obviously but there's clearly a valid reason as to why he hasn't been signed.
Emotions are high and fans are desperate. A rumour tomorrow could come up saying we're looking at re-signing Gunnarsson and guaranteed the same posters would be frothing at the mouth, regurgitating all the same blind optimism.
The point being, that we're in an any port in a storm scenario and for me that just isn't a way to operate and lacks complete logic or sense.
It's not going to fuck us obviously but there's clearly a valid reason as to why he hasn't been signed.
Emotions are high and fans are desperate. A rumour tomorrow could come up saying we're looking at re-signing Gunnarsson and guaranteed the same posters would be frothing at the mouth, regurgitating all the same blind optimism.
The point being, that we're in an any port in a storm scenario and for me that just isn't a way to operate and lacks complete logic or sense.
This is my exact issue with this argument though. You're making it sound like it's a foregone conclusion. Another body comes in = automatic success (or at the very least we're in a much better position).
The club doesn't have a bottomless pit of funds and the last few windows have skewed that perspective massively for much of the fanbase.
It's not ideal but it might be better that we just wait until January and reevaluate then rather than blow a chunk of the remaining budget on player who's being brought as nothing more than an expensive stop gap - regardless of how desperate we are currently.
James played over 30 games last season. Ironically his injury record has improved massively.
I don’t have any idea how thin the budget is but there’s no doubt we have room as we didn’t expect Palmer to leave. Sometimes you have to make a pragmatic short term decision to try and improve a declining situation
Godden played 41 times last season, that doesn't mean I'd want him anywhere near the squad even if we were down to the bare bones. I don't necessarily see that as a point of optimism.
No they wouldn't. You're just being disrespectful now.
If you think my post makes it sound like another body guarantees success then I don't know what to say.
I think me saying it's not ideal hilights that I don't think that at all.
But it's preferable to the fingers crossed we don't get another injury approach.
I mean one of your posts over the weekend was: "at this point anyone who argued against the signing of Matty James is clearly in some weird state of denial about where the current state of things" but I'll take your word for it.
Regardless of the back and forth on this argument, for what it's worth I do actually agree that we need another body in, but at this stage we're going to have to wait until January whether you think that's preferable or not.
Let’s hope the next injury is to Lati as I don’t want to see him in midfield he is far to slow at moving the ball.If/when we get another midfield injury we'll be playing Lati in there every week.
This should have been addressed, even if it meant signing a free agent.
Not ideal but better than the alternative we are faced with.
Let’s hope the next injury is to Lati as I don’t want to see him in midfield he is far to slow at moving the ball.
Until he gets injured himselfIf/when we get another midfield injury we'll be playing Lati in there every week.
This should have been addressed, even if it meant signing a free agent.
Not ideal but better than the alternative we are faced with.
If it’s sheaf Eccles or Lati it has to be the last one, I don’t want to see him injured but he is the weakest by farBit harsh mate!
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