Proposal from Sky Blue Trust Members Meeting: Support CCFC Ladies on 16th March (2 Viewers)

shmmeee · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
What have I backed? There has been lots added to the debate by all sides?

Sorry, implicit backing. ccfc4life and Grendel's first posts in this thread are both nothing but blatant attempts to take a reasonable thread off track. You've got to ask why these two (and Torchy) spend so much time trying to derail conversations they apparently want nothing to do with.

I don't see a similar concerted effort to stop people talking about attending Sixfields. What exactly is their motivation for (in this thread) attempting to disrupt CCFC fans from talking about protesting and (in another thread) doing Labovitch's character assassination for him and implying Steve and I have something to hide or "connections".

Frankly, it stinks to me. If you do that shit you're either a complete c**t or frankly not a Cov fan.

Can either of them explain why they're doing it? Can you?

Nick · Mar 4, 2014

The same could be said when people want to talk about cov matches and people try to take it off topic then? It works both ways?

Why is it ok for people to slate sixfield people but not the other way? Neither has been moderated.

lewys33 · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
The same could be said when people want to talk about cov matches and people try to take it off topic then? It works both ways?

You haven't answered the question directly have you ...........

letsallsingtogether · Mar 4, 2014

Because they can anyone else would get the thread closed.

See they have succeeded we are off track again.

shmmeee said:
Sorry, implicit backing. ccfc4life and Grendel's first posts in this thread are both nothing but blatant attempts to take a reasonable thread off track. You've got to ask why these two (and Torchy) spend so much time trying to derail conversations they apparently want nothing to do with.

I don't see a similar concerted effort to stop people talking about attending Sixfields. What exactly is their motivation for (in this thread) attempting to disrupt CCFC fans from talking about protesting and (in another thread) doing Labovitch's character assassination for him and implying Steve and I have something to hide or "connections".

Frankly, it stinks to me. If you do that shit you're either a complete c**t or frankly not a Cov fan.

Can either of them explain why they're doing it? Can you?

letsallsingtogether · Mar 4, 2014

Funny how some of the afore mentioned don't post on match posts very often.:thinking about:

Nick said:
The same could be said when people want to talk about cov matches and people try to take it off topic then? It works both ways?

Why is it ok for people to slate sixfield people but not the other way? Neither has been moderated.

GaryPendrysEyes · Mar 4, 2014

torchomatic said:
Couldn't agree more, which is why I continue to support my team - and not SISU - at Sixfields.

...and your 1000's of anti-ACL posts, none against Sisu on here.. have nothing to do with you going to Sixfields???
You really have a problem with being economical with the truth.....

Nick · Mar 4, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
Because they can anyone else would get the thread closed.

See they have succeeded we are off track again.

What has been closed?

Nick · Mar 4, 2014

lewys33 said:
You haven't answered the question directly have you ...........

The question that it is ok for one but not the other? Why is ok for non Sixfields people to disrupt match threads when people want to talk about the game?

Why is it fine for one?

torchomatic · Mar 4, 2014

shmmeee said:
Sorry, implicit backing. ccfc4life and Grendel's first posts in this thread are both nothing but blatant attempts to take a reasonable thread off track. You've got to ask why these two (and Torchy) spend so much time trying to derail conversations they apparently want nothing to do with.

I don't see a similar concerted effort to stop people talking about attending Sixfields. What exactly is their motivation for (in this thread) attempting to disrupt CCFC fans from talking about protesting and (in another thread) doing Labovitch's character assassination for him and implying Steve and I have something to hide or "connections".

Frankly, it stinks to me. If you do that shit you're either a complete c**t or frankly not a Cov fan.

Can either of them explain why they're doing it? Can you?

Where have I derailed anything? Ive said I dont think it will achieve anything but good luck to those that attend. Nothing more.

And you have the nerve to state people are throwing insults around.
I presume you won't be joining in any conversation about sixfields in the future as you apparently wang nothing to do with the place.

And I've never mention you Steve or anyone else or anything to do wirh connections.

You've got a lot of tar dripping from your angry little brush.

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torchomatic · Mar 4, 2014

GaryPendrysEyes said:
...and your 1000's of anti-ACL posts, none against Sisu on here.. have nothing to do with you going to Sixfields???
You really have a problem with being economical with the truth.....

I've stated many times sisu are in the wrong. I was anti acl years before we upped sticks and moved out of the city.

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covmark · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
Would be interesting if we posted up who did have duplicate accounts....

yep come on, name and shame

torchomatic · Mar 4, 2014

Unfortunately when you get people like Schmmee calling people cunts and ranting at Nick then there is little choice but start deleting. And Schmmee has the nerve to blame others.

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rondog1973 · Mar 4, 2014

100% correct Shmmeee. You, Nick, are forever bemoaning the fact that threads are derailed or turned into a ACL/SISU bitchfest. And here's and your predictable cohorts doing exactly that! Regardless of who you think is responsible, this will ably demonstrate that we want to watch teams representing Coventry City, play in the city of Coventry. If the local and hopefully national press/media deem the fact that the ladies team draws more than the Gents because of this, it's an excellent days work.

ccfcway · Mar 4, 2014

4 pages now since the reason the thread was created was even mentioned

covcity4life · Mar 4, 2014

2 locked threads. destroying freedom of speech nick. and all cos lewsy and ACL lovers are kicking off.

shame on you.

Grendel · Mar 4, 2014

Schmee is the one who has derailed a reasonable discussion and should be banned.

torchomatic · Mar 4, 2014

covmark said:
yep come on, name and shame

Spion and SBK for me.

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Nick · Mar 4, 2014

rondog1973 said:
100% correct Shmmeee. You, Nick, are forever bemoaning the fact that threads are derailed or turned into a ACL/SISU bitchfest. And here's and your predictable cohorts doing exactly that! Regardless of who you think is responsible, this will ably demonstrate that we want to watch teams representing Coventry City, play in the city of Coventry. If the local and hopefully national press/media deem the fact that the ladies team draws more than the Gents because of this, it's an excellent days work.

Most of the debate was on topic about the proposed protest but people didn't like it so go off on one and then somebody wades in calling people cunts for questioning things?

covmark · Mar 4, 2014

torchomatic said:
Spion and SBK for me.

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Grendel and shmmee for me.
Split personality, enjoys an argument with himself:slap:

rondog1973 · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
Most of the debate was on topic about the proposed protest but people didn't like it so go off on one and then somebody wades in calling people cunts for questioning things?

No, you were the first poster to suggest it could be seen as siding with one of the organisations at play. We just wanna watch Cov in Cov.

Nick · Mar 4, 2014

rondog1973 said:
No, you were the first poster to suggest it could be seen as siding with one of the organisations at play. We just wanna watch Cov in Cov.

Yes, and it could. So what's the problem with that being said? Why the outrage? I was also constructive.

Is it only negatives about SISU allowed on here?

Grendel · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
Yes, and it could. So what's the problem with that being said? Why the outrage? I was also constructive.

Is it only negatives about SISU allowed on here?

No one really wants to once the ladies match. The trusts own advertising of the game portrays it as a lets beat the Sixfields attendance so its clearly going to create a debate around those issues.

Schmeee seems not to like debate. I think he has aspirations for this forum to be run like North Korea or some Marxist dictatorship where only certain responses are allowed.

sky blue zam · Mar 4, 2014

I think the idea of going to see ccfc ladies isn't a bad one weather its at the Ricoh the oval or anywhere. They deserve a decent support and if they made it to the final then more would go.

But all the people that do blame acl/CCC would probably be among the first to step back into the Ricoh if ccfc ever played there agian. I can't ever see that happening and blame sisu for this shit mess.

If any protests are going to take place in the future though, they need to be at six fields inside or out. Incidentley has anybody heard anymore about the mk dons thing?

ashbyjan · Mar 4, 2014

Just to put some perspective on this whole thread and stress the Trusts official policy on this matter before it spirals out of control. The Trust board were approached by CCFC Ladies and asked if we would promote their important cup tie to our members. This we have agreed to do - ie If you are not going to Sixfields to support the mens team why not go and support the Ladies in their important match. It is good that the match is at the Ricoh as hopefully they will get a decent crowd and generate some much needed revenue. We are not saying don't go to Northampton, we are not criticising those who do go just suggesting an activity to those who are not going and hopefully helping out our friends at CCFC Ladies.

The idea for a protest is one that has come from individuals not the Trust per se, some will be Trust members some may not be and it appears to be an extension of KCIC's very successful Why? protest. This now seems to be being driven not by KCIC but by an advertising agency doing those very nice arty pics of the banners etc. The Trust is not in any way shape or form promoting any protest and neither is CCFC Ladies. If individuals wish to take leaflets, print leaflets, protest etc that is up to them - all we are saying is if you're not going to Sixfields why not support the Ladies team in an important cup game.

Hope that clears up the matter and the Trusts official position on the matter,

RoboCCFC90 · Mar 4, 2014

sky blue zam said:
I think the idea of going to see ccfc ladies isn't a bad one weather its at the Ricoh the oval or anywhere. They deserve a decent support and if they made it to the final then more would go.

But all the people that do blame acl/CCC would probably be among the first to step back into the Ricoh if ccfc ever played there agian. I can't ever see that happening and blame sisu for this shit mess.

If any protests are going to take place in the future though, they need to be at six fields inside or out. Incidentley has anybody heard anymore about the mk dons thing?

The problem is Zam and I mentioned this the first time CCLFC played at the Ricoh, has there ever been any public backing from the Trust or elsewhere for people to support CCLFC at the Oval? No. Yet the moment they play at the Ricoh the Trust is up in arms trying to get people to go and see them because it's at the Ricoh this whole thread, the whole idea has nothing to do with CCLFC IMO, it's all to do with the Ricoh and making a scene, ashbyjan is online now so I am happy for him to correct me if I am wrong and all all the other points I have made on this thread.

wingy · Mar 4, 2014

Maybe a comment from Cov ladies might satisfy the demands.

RoboCCFC90 · Mar 4, 2014

ashbyjan said:
Just to put some perspective on this whole thread and stress the Trusts official policy on this matter before it spirals out of control. The Trust board were approached by CCFC Ladies and asked if we would promote their important cup tie to our members. This we have agreed to do - ie If you are not going to Sixfields to support the mens team why not go and support the Ladies in their important match. It is good that the match is at the Ricoh as hopefully they will get a decent crowd and generate some much needed revenue. We are not saying don't go to Northampton, we are not criticising those who do go just suggesting an activity to those who are not going and hopefully helping out our friends at CCFC Ladies.

The idea for a protest is one that has come from individuals not the Trust per se, some will be Trust members some may not be and it appears to be an extension of KCIC's very successful Why? protest. This now seems to be being driven not by KCIC but by an advertising agency doing those very nice arty pics of the banners etc. The Trust is not in any way shape or form promoting any protest and neither is CCFC Ladies. If individuals wish to take leaflets, print leaflets, protest etc that is up to them - all we are saying is if you're not going to Sixfields why not support the Ladies team in an important cup game.

Hope that clears up the matter and the Trusts official position on the matter,

Okay ashbyjan we have argued on topics on this forum before but maybe this time you can put me straight once and for all, in your post I have highlighted the following:

"The Trust board were approached by CCFC Ladies and asked if we would promote their important cup tie to our members" - Now that's all fair and good but when you couple that with a part from the OP of this thread:

"This is the same day that CCFC play Port Vale at Sixfields. There was an overall consensus from those attending that it would be worth trying to get a larger crowd at the Ricoh than at Sixfields that afternoon. That probably means we need around 2,000 fans attending the game in Coventry."

Are you advertising this as a Supportive measure or a protest measure, CCLFC came to you to promote their game at the Ricoh and I am sure when they did, it wasn't going to be used with the intention to make another protest regarding CCFC or where is the support for the reason people are attending, i.e CCLFC.

Can you clear this up for me, because the OP and your post are slightly inaccurate and being that I am sure you were involved somewhat last night "the overall consensus" agreed this would be a good idea?

Mr T - Sukka! · Mar 4, 2014

Anyone else starting to not care anymore? Or is it just me?

Its really getting boring now and i have better things to do.

Same arguments, just going round in circles everday.

I have been 2 away games thats it.
Havent been in the club shop.

Just ask your self the question, how long before the majority walk away forever?

The fans split has already happened.

Bennets Afro · Mar 4, 2014

Every fan wants us back in Coventry!!!!

What I want to know is WHEN the sky blues trust is going to start putting pressure on ACL/CCC and WHY they haven't done it already.

It takes two to tango in this predicament and all their focus seems to be at the football club.

Why is there no pressure being put on the council and acl. As it nick said earlier. It all looks very one sided and you people wander why Labovitch is asking about the trusts involvement with ACL/CCC

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
Yes, and it could. So what's the problem with that being said? Why the outrage? I was also constructive.

Is it only negatives about SISU allowed on here?

tbf (maybe I forget already!) you also suggested it'd be more 'neutral' and make more impact if there were a larger gate at a non league game locally than Sixfields too, so that's not exactly averse to the concept of a protest, more the location...

lamtara2006 · Mar 4, 2014

ashbyjan said:
Just to put some perspective on this whole thread and stress the Trusts official policy on this matter before it spirals out of control. The Trust board were approached by CCFC Ladies and asked if we would promote their important cup tie to our members. This we have agreed to do - ie If you are not going to Sixfields to support the mens team why not go and support the Ladies in their important match. It is good that the match is at the Ricoh as hopefully they will get a decent crowd and generate some much needed revenue. We are not saying don't go to Northampton, we are not criticising those who do go just suggesting an activity to those who are not going and hopefully helping out our friends at CCFC Ladies.

The idea for a protest is one that has come from individuals not the Trust per se, some will be Trust members some may not be and it appears to be an extension of KCIC's very successful Why? protest. This now seems to be being driven not by KCIC but by an advertising agency doing those very nice arty pics of the banners etc. The Trust is not in any way shape or form promoting any protest and neither is CCFC Ladies. If individuals wish to take leaflets, print leaflets, protest etc that is up to them - all we are saying is if you're not going to Sixfields why not support the Ladies team in an important cup game.

Hope that clears up the matter and the Trusts official position on the matter,

Jan, I think that is entirely in accordance with what I've said throughout this thread.

RegTheDonk · Mar 4, 2014

Nick said:
I am not too sure, as some people see ACL / CCC also to blame surely it could be seen as backing them? It also alienates trust members who go to Sixfields and seems to be moving away from the "representing all fans" that it was? Not a dig or having a go.

If it was at Bedworth Oval then maybe.

I still think if there was a local non league game on a different day that thousands of city fans turned up to, it would get more press.

I don't see what it could achieve apart from distancing it's self from the club and getting closer to ACL again?

It doesn't matter who is to blame IMHO, it's the Ricoh where most of us want CCFC to play, so supporting the stadium by going to watch the ladies makes sense. Just as many fans did when there was a big house watching the legends.

Rusty Trombone · Mar 4, 2014

RoboCCFC90 said:
The problem is Zam and I mentioned this the first time CCLFC played at the Ricoh, has there ever been any public backing from the Trust or elsewhere for people to support CCLFC at the Oval? No. Yet the moment they play at the Ricoh the Trust is up in arms trying to get people to go and see them because it's at the Ricoh this whole thread, the whole idea has nothing to do with CCLFC IMO, it's all to do with the Ricoh and making a scene, ashbyjan is online now so I am happy for him to correct me if I am wrong and all all the other points I have made on this thread.

The ladies team have played other games at the Ricoh this season.

RoboCCFC90 · Mar 4, 2014

lamtara2006 said:
Jan, I think that is entirely in accordance with what I've said throughout this thread.

So your comment before lamtara:

lamtara2006 said:
This is the same day that CCFC play Port Vale at Sixfields. There was an overall consensus from those attending that it would be worth trying to get a larger crowd at the Ricoh than at Sixfields that afternoon. That probably means we need around 2,000 fans attending the game in Coventry.

Is not an attempt to highlight the opportunity of getting more fans at the Ricoh than there would be at Sixfields to prove a point?

If so I apologise, one question if so why has the Trust not promoted CCLFC games previously?

ashbyjan · Mar 4, 2014

Robbo - I have no idea how many the Ladies have played at the Ricoh since the start of the season - they approached us and asked if we would help promote this match as it is a big cup tie for them, they need money and bums on seats gives them money so we agreed to promote the match. Its their decision to play it at the Ricoh not ours, they believe they will get a bigger turnout there than in Bedworth, they have done the maths on the profitability. I know they are not promoting any protest and neither are we. We are trying to keep lines of communication open with the club as we feel that talking and trying to get them to understand the fans point of view is still the best way to go - protests are a way of venting frustration and making people feel better about things for a short time but their effectiveness is often questionable. We will keep trying to talk with SISU, CCFC, ACL, CCC etc and we won't be afraid to criticize any side we feel is not acting in the interests of our members and the clubs supporters in general.

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