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shmmeee · Feb 21, 2024

Didn’t want to tag this onto the racism thread but it’s very much of a piece. Fairly innocuous post from the club yesterday:

And some completely normal replies:

(That’s just three of top five comments I see on Twitter)

Now I like a moan about pointless virtue signalling as much as the next man, personally I hate requests for applause on a given minute for whatever cause/dead person. But I don’t pop into the clubs replies to tell them this, it’s massively insensitive and I get it means a lot to others. I’m not a particular fan of the endless rainbows either. But this is LGBT history month, and the EFL are putting rainbow balls out, it’s not just a random thing.

Just like the Palmer abuse showed the need for taking the knee, the response to this for me shows the need for more visibility of LGBT people in football.

Anyway, have at it SBT

pusbccfc · Feb 21, 2024

The whole 'stick to football' mentality doesn't work if people are being discriminated IN FOOTBALL. Same with the Palmer situation.

Those angry are those who don't need to worry about these problems.

alexccfc99 · Feb 21, 2024

Don't get how you can be that wound up by a small gesture by the club that has no bearing or makes no intrusion on your life whatsoever

It's like with the knee I constantly told people if it winds you up that much stay in the concourse for an extra pint

ajsccfc · Feb 21, 2024

The third reply is fine, maybe clumsily worded as I thought it was one of the crazies at first.

MikeyMoo · Feb 21, 2024

I have a lecture I give in fresher World Politics about sport. It’s ALWAYS been political, about race and gender. Trans athlete debates in sport are old news What I find interesting is that the Freshers are so athlete focused. They get individual athletes are political and politicised but it’s harder to see sport as a whole as politically constituted. Money, sex, power, sport. From Roman Circuses feeding Christians to the lions to Sheffield Wednesday…

SeaSeeEffCee · Feb 21, 2024

Some of those posters are Twitter are well known for being complete gobshites when it comes to this kind of stuff. Always give it the same ‘oh, I’m just asking a question’ bullshit excuse as well when they know full well what they’re doing.

covcity4life · Feb 21, 2024

That skye girl is weird. Example of someone who lives entire life online. It's sad.

Skyblueweeman · Feb 21, 2024

alexccfc99 said:
Don't get how you can be that wound up by a small gesture by the club that has no bearing or makes no intrusion on your life whatsoever

It's like with the knee I constantly told people if it winds you up that much stay in the concourse for an extra pint

Kind of agree. Football, whether the meat-heads like it, is becoming more inclusive and everyone should be able to enjoy it regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation, nationality etc etc. The club are doing their bit and that should be congratulated.

Unfortunately there will always be a % of the fan base who will be against things like this.

And I've found on occasion that people who start a response with 'I'm not homophobic but...' are more than likely to be homophobic.

napolimp · Feb 21, 2024

Why even give comments on Twitter airtime? Just link the story from the website - NEWS: Coventry City show support for LGBTQ+ community at Friday's game

Nick · Feb 21, 2024

Not really sure what the issue is. Aren't the club saying they are just showing support by using a matchball and various other things? Not much different to rainbow laces.

They aren't saying only gay people can go to the game. Whilst I don't agree with "sectioning" as a city fan is a city fan whether they are gay, straight, black, white I don't see the issue.

Covcraig@bury · Feb 21, 2024

I want to be recognised as a lesbian and I’m proud of it !

shmmeee · Feb 21, 2024

ajsccfc said:
The third reply is fine, maybe clumsily worded as I thought it was one of the crazies at first.

Yeah my bad. I read the first bit and misread the rest. Will edit

shmmeee · Feb 21, 2024

napolimp said:
Why even give comments on Twitter airtime? Just link the story from the website - NEWS: Coventry City show support for LGBTQ+ community at Friday's game

Because the comments are the issue. It’s a significant portion of the replies to the tweet.

rob9872 · Feb 21, 2024

MikeyMoo said:
I have a lecture I give in fresher World Politics about sport. It’s ALWAYS been political, about race and gender. Trans athlete debates in sport are old news What I find interesting is that the Freshers are so athlete focused. They get individual athletes are political and politicised but it’s harder to see sport as a whole as politically constituted. Money, sex, power, sport. From Roman Circuses feeding Christians to the lions to Sheffield Wednesday…

Trans and trans athletes are two completely different topics imo. Trans - absolutely be who you want to be and fek anyone who doesn't like it. Athletes using it for personal gain at the expense of others who have worked their whole life to be the best they can be and miss out on success to someone genetically stronger, can fek right off.

Astute · Feb 21, 2024

I don't agree with those born male but taking part in womens sport as being fair. Women can train as hard as they like and be as gifted as possible but they will always be on another level. Womens records are being smashed at several sports yet some make out it makes no difference.

But otherwise what's the problem?

shmmeee · Feb 21, 2024

Nothing here about trans women in female categories though is there? Just a group of city fans and efforts to make them feel welcome.

Robinshio · Feb 21, 2024

i hear so many homophobic comments at our games and even on here - all of the " i bet you go to rainbows " type of comments, and some much worse
Many people still have an attitude which was prevalent in the 70s and 80s and have not educated themselves

Love is love is a very true statement whether it is sexual orientation, race or any potential differences that people see .

I also disagree with transgender sports as in men who have transgendered to women , taking part in womens sport - as this is clearly unfair to other competitors in my opinion, but at the same time a lot of thought does need to be given in this area

The American Samoan player who transgendered was still happy to compete from a sports point of view in the mens world cup - and i would go along with that view

Nick · Feb 21, 2024

shmmeee said:
Nothing here about trans women in female categories though is there? Just a group of city fans and efforts to make them feel welcome.

Exactly! The whole trans thing is a different debate entirely.

pusbccfc · Feb 21, 2024

PorkySmurf said:
Coventry have the cringiest fanbase on Twitter and it's not even close

We're despised on there by other clubs.

Saddlebrains · Feb 21, 2024

pusbccfc said:
We're despised on there by other clubs.

Who gives a fuck? Same with the attendance shaggers on there from all clubs

Until they start giving out points for atmosphere i dont see why anyone cares

SeaSeeEffCee · Feb 21, 2024

pusbccfc said:
We're despised on there by other clubs.

I wouldn’t say we’re despised, it’s more that everyone else laughs at our weirdo fans who develop an unhealthy obsession with everyone we play.

stay_up_skyblues · Feb 21, 2024

Until such time male players can be openly gay without fear of discrimination then this stuff is fully valid and justified. End of discussion isn’t it?

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 21, 2024

Glad to see this happened

Thread 'LGBTQ City Fans' LGBTQ City Fans

curly_tom · Feb 21, 2024

I am encouraged in general by the people on this board. There are a few tears who spout prejudice stuff but in the main people here call out others who make racist, homophonic, a list remarks. Work to be done on the use of the word ‘Mong’ which is abhorrent and often gets ignored. People on Twitter however seem to be a different type in some cases.

napolimp · Feb 21, 2024

rob9872 said:
Trans and trans athletes are two completely different topics imo. Trans - absolutely be who you want to be and fek anyone who doesn't like it. Athletes using it for personal gain at the expense of others who have worked their whole life to be the best they can be and miss out on success to someone genetically stronger, can fek right off.

Really? You know someone who has transitioned for personal gain do you?

Sick Boy · Feb 21, 2024

The lack of openly gay footballers in the game says it all about the reality of the situation.

Tommo1993 · Feb 21, 2024

Minefield. This is something that the club will never win. Wouldn’t it be weird if they celebrated gender for a game? Or skin colour? (This isn’t a complaint like those twitter replies) just think it’s closer to exclusivity.

Heard Fadz was frozen out because suddenly he identified as a northern tavern wench.

Skyblueweeman · Feb 21, 2024

Deleted member 5849 said:
Glad to see this happened

Thread 'LGBTQ City Fans' LGBTQ City Fans

Interesting read. Some interesting comments including one about Transgenderism being a mental illness. Not something I'd expect from that particular poster.

Also, who was Deleted member 2477 (or whatever the number was). Any ideas?

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 21, 2024

Skyblueweeman said:
Interesting read. Some interesting comments including one about Transgenderism being a mental illness. Not something I'd expect from that particular poster.

Also, who was Deleted member 2477 (or whatever the number was). Any ideas?

Marcusp - you find where they're quoted

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Feb 21, 2024

covcity4life said:
That skye girl is weird. Example of someone who lives entire life online. It's sad.

I knew she would be one of the people in the post before even seeing her name. Loves a controversial opinion to garner some attention.

AOM · Feb 21, 2024

There were deranged responses to the Facebook post too, which unfortunately isn't surprising, but you then see the amount of likes they still get...
It's not surprising that some players still don't want to come out to the public

Sick Boy · Feb 21, 2024

stay_up_skyblues said:
Until such time male players can be openly gay without fear of discrimination then this stuff is fully valid and justified. End of discussion isn’t it?

Spot on.

mmttww · Feb 21, 2024

Skyblueweeman said:
Some interesting comments including one about Transgenderism being a mental illness...

Yeah, interesting as this is how homosexuality was viewed and treated until not all that long ago.

usskyblue · Feb 21, 2024

I mean, aren’t you basically identifying yourself as a bigot by being overly offended at something like this?

Sick Boy · Feb 21, 2024

Until we’re at a point where same sex couples can kiss/hold hands in public, there’s still work to be done on it within society.

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