I like to take a more scientific approach to it all to be honest and say all matter matters.I've got nothing against Legends Day so long as they keep it behind closed doors and don't wave it in my face or the face of the silent majority, but what about a day for your Alex Evtushoks, your Rafaele Nuzzos, your Carlitas? I'm just asking questions. All players matter.
I'd say that's likely because those with mental illness are castigated less in society that members of the LGBTQ+ community.
And whilst you say discussing gender dysphoria here might not help, it's fair to call out posts where someone says Transgenderism is a mental illness.
Unless I've misunderstood the point of your post.
I just dont feel comfortable with some of the pronoun/identification stuff
Fair f*cks to you for posting about it, but it's not about how you feel. That's the point for me. How you feel about it doesn't come in to it. Don't like it? Crack on. If you think someone's not a great role model because they wear daft clothes, cool.
It's good people are talking about this. Worth reflecting on the fact that we're having this chat on a football forum. A place where huge chunks of the UK population are labelled d*ckheads most days because they have a different postcode to us.
The chokehold that Sam Smith has on the imagination of this board continues to baffle me. Where are you guys consuming all this Sam Smith content?!
Fair f*cks to you for posting about it, but it's not about how you feel. That's the point for me. How you feel about it doesn't come in to it. Don't like it? Crack on. If you think someone's not a great role model because they wear daft clothes, cool.
It's good people are talking about this. Worth reflecting on the fact that we're having this chat on a football forum. A place where huge chunks of the UK population are labelled d*ckheads most days because they have a different postcode to us.
However i see something like an image of Sam Smith dressed as a pork joint gyrating all over almost nude men at a concert children are able to attend or view and i just think 'na cant support that kind of stuff'.
I think when it’s something innocuous like this that gets those responses there’s something else being triggered.
Depends who you follow!Twitter was besieged with it at one point
What if it was ariana grande gyrating over almost nude men?However i see something like an image of Sam Smith dressed as a pork joint gyrating all over almost nude men at a concert children are able to attend or view and i just think 'na cant support that kind of stuff'
What if it was ariana grande gyrating over almost nude men?
So that’s nothing to do with sexual orientation then is it, just an aversion to overly graphic sexual suggestionStill wouldn't like my daughter seeing it, no need for kids to see things like that
That’s not a crime is it?
That’s not a crime is it?
Just because you've seen 2 chaps snogging once, does not mean that 'It's not a problem in the UK anymore'.I seen two gay chaps snogging in the street today and I dropped my shopping to applaud them. Many others did the same.
It’s not a problem in the UK anymore.
I think the problem with perception these days is people see gay couples on the TV in a safe environment and other things like marches and gay pride week and think everything has changed yet don't consider how many idiots there are out there. People love to take offence at anything they don't see as 'normal'. Some people just have pure hatred for anything they don't see as 'normal'.it absolutely is still a problem in the UK.
That skye girl is weird. Example of someone who lives entire life online. It's sad.
Back on planet Earth - New data: Rise in hate crime against LGBTQ+ people continues, Stonewall slams UK Gov ‘inaction’Thank god we don’t live in one of those places then. I seen two gay chaps snogging in the street today and I dropped my shopping to applaud them. Many others did the same. It’s not a problem in the UK anymore - the only thing campaigns like this do is bring out the bigots and the holier-than-thou righteous mob.
She sounds a bit like NickShe’s not weird just spoilt and middle class and posts anything to beg attention on Twitter. Here is her level of empathy
She’s not weird just spoilt and middle class and posts anything to beg attention on Twitter. Here is her level of empathy
There we are. Case Solved.The only reason they are not out is because it might hinder their chances of a bumper contract with a club funded by Arab millions.
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The only reason they are not out is because it might hinder their chances of a bumper contract with a club funded by Arab millions.
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The point made on Twitter about Arab owned clubs is nonsense. Just for starters, how many footballers in the football league are likely to play for such a club?It’s a different culture in men and woman’s football.
A couple of quick points:
- a lot more abuse from fans in men’s sport
- LGBT representation is disproportionately higher in women’s sport compared to societal averages
- Whereas, I suspect the opposite trend is true in men’s sport - I’d have to look into that point in detail though
- Cultural norms of domestic and overseas players, the European leagues have lots of players from religious backgrounds which may or may not be so welcoming of LGBT players
- I wouldn’t single out Arab owned clubs here but I don’t disagree with that point in and of itself
- Lack of role models & community - there is no publically visible professional footballer’s community of LGBT players
There’s more to delve into but that’s a few things off the top of my head.
Jesus some folks replies on that thread.
It's not my point! I was absolutely staggered that any one can genuinely believe that the reason footballers aren't coming out is that they are cowards and deliberately hiding their sexuality in the hope of a lucrative contract from an Arab owned club.It’s a different culture in men and woman’s football.
A couple of quick points:
- a lot more abuse from fans in men’s sport
- LGBT representation is disproportionately higher in women’s sport compared to societal averages
- Whereas, I suspect the opposite trend is true in men’s sport - I’d have to look into that point in detail though
- Cultural norms of domestic and overseas players, the European leagues have lots of players from religious backgrounds which may or may not be so welcoming of LGBT players
- I wouldn’t single out Arab owned clubs here but I don’t disagree with that point in and of itself
- Lack of role models & community - there is no publically visible professional footballer’s community of LGBT players
There’s more to delve into but that’s a few things off the top of my head.
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