Otis
Well-Known Member
I think trolls should maybe start their own support group.
I think trolls should maybe start their own support group.He could be he's a troll account.
Apoligies to all, perhaps my written text is not coming over very well.Jesus...where do i start ?
Why would someone siting next to you (who maybe happened to be gay), 'act like a twat' ?
Maybe you could list what things constitute 'acting like a twat', so that we can all understand you better ?
Also no ones is asking for 'special treatment'...just fair and equal treatment.
They could meet under a bridgeI think trolls should maybe start their own support group.
Trolls should maybe start their own support group.
What issues do gay people face at a football match these days that’s any different to anyone else? I haven’t hear any homophobic chanting at a match for must be 10 years.
In my eyes it’s just people at a football match, the more you put people in to groups about ethnicity, sexuality, religion it just divides people. Believe what you want.
we share a love for Coventry City and I don’t enquire as to where they come from, who they lay down with or what their politics are.
Just thought i'd give my experience (as a gay man) of going up to Highfield road and Ricoh/CBS Arena for over 4 decades.
I can honestly say that in the vast majority of the many games i've watched over the years, i've heard some homophobic abuse.
It was never aimed at me, but was aimed at officials, opposition players, and occasionally even directed at our own players.
It happened so much, that when i heard it, i just ignored it and screened it out.
I even had one instance at the Ricoh (as it was then), where a friend of mine (we used to go up in a group of 9), shouted at the top of his voice 'get up you puff' at an opposition player who was milking a tackle.
I was sat 2 seats from him, and he was oblivious to what he'd said, and still is to this day.
I laughed it off (to myself), but surely that just shows how easy it is for homophobic abuse to enter the language, when it comes from the mouth of a friend, not from malice, but just casual footy language.
Instead of opening your eyes try opening tour ears.What issues do gay people face at a football match these days that’s any different to anyone else? I haven’t . any homophobic chanting at a match for must be 10 years.
In my eyes it’s just people at a football match, the more you put people in to groups about ethnicity, sexuality, religion it just divides people. Believe what you want.
I prefer the quiet approach if the person is close by. That nearly always works. But when riled I will shout STFU. It always goes very quiet for a few secondsI've had a weird feeling of shame since the Leicester match last month. Some guy with a particularly loud voice, couple rows back from me, started shouting at Dewsbury-Hall after being fouled. Using the words "fag" and "puff". I was genuinely shocked, and for some reason assumed something would happen - not sure what. Then I felt like I should say something, but with a packed block and not even knowing exactly who the guy was, didn't have the courage to pipe up. I suppose it is something you have experienced numerous times at the football. Don't know if anyone has any suggestions on best course of action to take if something like this happens near you? Is there a reporting text line at the CBS?
I’ve fucking heard it all nowThe reason I think a lot of players don’t come out it because it would create an issue in the dressing room as players are dressing in front of each other.
Absolutely baffling that you can defend that.Simple generational shift, perfectly normal, but when you see someone of @thekidfromstrettoncamp criticised for his comment about Sakamoto's ability to defend himself with a Japanese martial art taught in schools over there,too far IMO Let it go!
Why is it, Patrice Evra has already done an interview ahe’s ago saying West Ham players refused to share a shower with a gay player.I’ve fucking heard it all nowwhat a load of shite I can’t believe it
It’s actually incredible.I’ve fucking heard it all nowwhat a load of shite I can’t believe it
I’d imagine these days it’s quite different.Why is it, Patrice Evra has already done an interview ahe’s ago saying West Ham players refused to share a shower with a gay player.
There is prejudice in the dressing rooms against gay players, it is a reason whether you like it or not that players won’t come out.
There is more homophobia in the dressing room than the stands.
Hitzelsperger said the same thing, I think they know a bit more than you ya clown
Really? Why do you think there are zero current premier league players who are openly gay?I’d imagine these days it’s quite different.
I’d imagine there are likely a fair few gay footballers who are out to their team mates but not the wider public. The real issue comes from the stands, as we’ve seen in this thread.Really? Why do you think there are zero current premier league players who are openly gay?
Is it because they are worried the 5% of homophobic fans they see for 90 mins a week might abuse them or is it because the dressing room is macho and testosterone filled. That’s where the real prejudice comes from.
If clubs are serious about change this is where changes need to be made. It’s all hot air just like Jordan Henderson, they are not bothered.
Countless interviews by ex footballers are out there if anyone wishes to research exposing what the dressing rooms are like.
The most disgusting thing I ever heard at the City was "Rangers, Celtic, Rangers, Celtic"We used to be full of political divides, but thankfuly we've moved on. I remember hearing 'we're left side , we're left side, we're left side over here' ... 'we're right side ...' Disgusting behaviour.
The opposite is the truth. What abuse did Hitzelspurger get? NoneI’d imagine there are likely a fair few gay footballers who are out to their team mates but not the wider public. The real issue comes from the stands, as we’ve seen in this thread.
He came out after he finished playing.The opposite is the truth. What abuse did Hitzelspurger get? None
Read what Graeme Souness has said in the past about dressing rooms on the matter.
Still goes to villa all the time, people love him. Couldn’t care less he’s gayHe came out after he finished playing.
Really? Why do you think there are zero current premier league players who are openly gay?
Is it because they are worried the 5% of homophobic fans they see for 90 mins a week might abuse them or is it because the dressing room is macho and testosterone filled. That’s where the real prejudice comes from.
If clubs are serious about change this is where changes need to be made. It’s all hot air just like Jordan Henderson, they are not bothered.
Countless interviews by ex footballers are out there if anyone wishes to research exposing what the dressing rooms are like.
Thanks for not insulting me !
The joint statement was the right thing to do at the right time and had my full support.
The taking the knee however was adopted from an American TV show and picked by the BLM movement at the time of Beonna Taylors shouting were I believed she caught in the cross fire of her gun touting partner(I stand to be corrected if facts were different). I think we are better than that and could of come up with a home based display and gathered more support than it actually gained. Maybe teams could have walked from goal line to centre spot making it unique to the football community.
Don't feel bad for not doing anything, friend...your personal safety is most important, and who knows, it could have kicked off had you said something.I've had a weird feeling of shame since the Leicester match last month. Some guy with a particularly loud voice, couple rows back from me, started shouting at Dewsbury-Hall after being fouled. Using the words "fag" and "puff". I was genuinely shocked, and for some reason assumed something would happen - not sure what. Then I felt like I should say something, but with a packed block and not even knowing exactly who the guy was, didn't have the courage to pipe up. I suppose it is something you have experienced numerous times at the football. Don't know if anyone has any suggestions on best course of action to take if something like this happens near you? Is there a reporting text line at the CBS?
To half answer your question, yes there is a text line (i'm only half answering because i dont know the number!) but its on the screen pre-game every week.I've had a weird feeling of shame since the Leicester match last month. Some guy with a particularly loud voice, couple rows back from me, started shouting at Dewsbury-Hall after being fouled. Using the words "fag" and "puff". I was genuinely shocked, and for some reason assumed something would happen - not sure what. Then I felt like I should say something, but with a packed block and not even knowing exactly who the guy was, didn't have the courage to pipe up. I suppose it is something you have experienced numerous times at the football. Don't know if anyone has any suggestions on best course of action to take if something like this happens near you? Is there a reporting text line at the CBS?
I this can be so open to abuse lol, does anyone have any seat numbers for the away section please?Thought I’d drop this in here for everyone!
Thought I’d drop this in here for everyone!
I think trolls should maybe start their own support group.
Totally agree - it’s why it always baffles me when people say “What more can the clubs do?”. Well, here’s a really really easy thing to start!I think the number for reporting stuff should be publicised a lot more!
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