It's been a hell of a long time since I was last paid for playing football, but, I would say you're far too generous with your assumption of 16-18 year olds being on that kind of money mate.
I would estimate somewhere in the region of £600 pm at 16. rising to £700-£800 pm at 18.
I might be being overly generous with my figures on the 16/17 yr olds but I knew of one under 18 who was on £2k and even if its half my figures that still a wage bill greater than the grant figure over 12 months
Are you crazy, people may tell you they are on that, they will not top 400 per week anytime before 19.I might be being overly generous with my figures on the 16/17 yr olds but I knew of one under 18 who was on £2k and even if its half my figures that still a wage bill greater than the grant figure over 12 months
One of the grant conditions is that it is matched by the club.
Adam walker Coventry signed age 8
Ashley Caine Nuneaton signed age 8
Cyrus Christie Coventry signed age 8
Jordan Clarke Coventry signed age 8
Conor Thomas Coventry
Gael Bigirimana Coventry
Callum Wilson Coventry
Michael Quirke Coventry
Jordan Willis Nuneaton
And outside area
Jermaine grandison Birmingham
Nathan Cameron Birmingham
Curtis Wynter Birmingham
Ryan Haynes daventry
Sean Jeffers Northampton
And these are only full debuts.
The academy really hasn't offered to much for the club
Signed age 8??? Really? take any kid at that age and give him coaching, support and incentive and 50% would be able to play league 1 by the time they're 20!
Ok sounds great, better get the formula. I might get a job in football.Signed age 8??? Really? take any kid at that age and give him coaching, support and incentive and 50% would be able to play league 1 by the time they're 20!
so you say £400 per week to my £500 per week and I'm crazy...hmmm me thinks you misread the original postAre you crazy, people may tell you they are on that, they will not top 400 per week anytime before 19.
Players can tell you what they like but this is the reality
Good post and one I can relate too, after years of managing a local side, playing (red league) top division junior football I never saw a Coventry Scout at any fixture, the only scout was Ray Gooding who I saw at the odd tournament.
The Coventry schools team was also very clicky and boys seemed to be picked from only two schools, regardless of ability, finally I went in person to recommend a player to Gregor Rioch, and he told me if he hadn't been spotted already he wouldn't be good enough (15 years of age) any way he has since had trials at two different clubs, it hasn't happened for him yet and may never do, but the accademys attitude amazed me.
Good post and one I can relate too, after years of managing a local side, playing (red league) top division junior football I never saw a Coventry Scout at any fixture, the only scout was Ray Gooding who I saw at the odd tournament.
The Coventry schools team was also very clicky and boys seemed to be picked from only two schools, regardless of ability, finally I went in person to recommend a player to Gregor Rioch, and he told me if he hadn't been spotted already he wouldn't be good enough (15 years of age) any way he has since had trials at two different clubs, it hasn't happened for him yet and may never do, but the accademys attitude amazed me.
Have you ever gone and viewed the standard of the academy players your players would be compared against?
#That's a very sad indictment - especially, now that we need good up and coming talent more than ever.
Strange, I know where I live (I moved away from coventry 10 years ago) local coaches and teachers are seen as an active part of recruitment and actively encouraged to put forward any talent they spot.
Afterall, as fans we may not always know what makes a good player but we do know one when we see one.
- Unfortunately this is SISU, Football is a business and unfortunately everything seems to resolve around £££££££ and lets be honest the only reason you kicked out the academy was because you weren't getting ££££££ from the Club, which is fair enough, but don't make out you have regret about it or a sensible being would have taken it up with the club before going all gunho!!
- Oh no because anything that you do isn't at all wrong or disrespectful.. Blame everything on SISU if you like, but it's not just "their mess", plus the only one making a statement on this subject is you by running CT to get a couple of quid..
Shut the feck up mate!!!!!!!
I completely agree with RoboCCFC that people should have the right to air their views.
Robo also said: "instead of assumptions and guesses I want FACTS is that too much to ask?"
I don't have a problem with people asking for facts either.
Robo, maybe you'd like to take the person who made the following quotes to task for making assumptions, guesses and trying to deny others a say:
To everyone, I say, whether you agree or disagree with PWKH, he is the only person involved in the situation CCFC finds itself in who pays us fans on here the respect of coming on here and telling us what he can. I thank him for that and I hope that, whatever your view of what he has to say, we can give him some respect back.
Thank you for your updates PWKH.
so I have just continued reading the eppp rules available on premier league site. You can only keep a non signed boy at the academy for a period of 6weeks in any one season. Players can then go into development centres. Ccfc sbitc run elite advanced centres which sit underneath the academy. Continued development takes place in there. Just spoke to a community coach, there have been in excess of 10 boys taken by the academy out of this programme and offered contracts. The academy are no different to any other pro club they have rules to adhere to. It's the system that has changed not the academy attitude.Yes I have I go to the Higgs on a regular basis, and some of the lads are very good and will go on to do well, some are quite frankly in my humble opinion just making the numbers up, it seems to me and I have had this confirmed by an academy coach that they want speed first, I was told that they want natural speed, the football ability is secondary as they can coach that into the player...all I would say is that a few of the professional clubs in the area have had shadow squads, Birmingham, Leicester ect these teams keep the boys attached to the club while bringing on areas of their game if they improve they get a trial, Coventry do not do this Why? surely it would not cost anything as it would be funded by the lads by subs, the coaches could be young coaches that are doing their coaching badges? Just a thought...
you obviously haven't played at any decent level to know the difference
Robo-what are you basing the statement on that you don't trust either side?? Opinion? Pwkh is basing his on evidence and fact.
Robo-what are you basing the statement on that you don't trust either side?? Opinion? Pwkh is basing his on evidence and fact.
I think if you read the first line of my reply to SkyBlues than you will see it's an opinion Pete.
So everything that one poster is saying is gospel now is it? He couldn't of lied in this situation to put more public pressure on the owners of the Football Club who are already enemies in the public eye? I am not saying this is true, but it's just one way of looking at it. Yet everyone on here believes that SISU must be in the wrong because no one person would lie and SISU are guilty for so many (Which I don't disagree with) that it doesn't matter if more people add to it.
TODAY'S HEADLINE - SISU BLAMED FOR EARTHQUAKE IN IRAN
Perhaps if people believe that SISU are in the wrong, that belief is based on their previous actions.
Just a thought.
Yeah and I don't disagree with that DTD.
Unfortunately many people have the mindset of "It must be their fault it's SISU". Well I don't agree with that, Yet most people will blame SISU for everything even if SISU aren't the party in the wrong..
And unfortunately some people won't have a bad word said about SISU, even when proof is shown as to how deceitful, and how such a disgusting work ethic they use and portray.
Each to their own in who they support. My choice is with the open and transparent ACL/Higgs/CCC. rather than the present owners of CCFC.
Mary, just wondered why you haven't answered my question. Is your name Peter?
I think if you read the first line of my reply to SkyBlues than you will see it's an opinion Pete.
So everything that one poster is saying is gospel now is it? He couldn't of lied in this situation to put more public pressure on the owners of the Football Club who are already enemies in the public eye? I am not saying this is true, but it's just one way of looking at it. Yet everyone on here believes that SISU must be in the wrong because no one person would lie and SISU are guilty for so many (Which I don't disagree with) that it doesn't matter if more people add to it.
TODAY'S HEADLINE - SISU BLAMED FOR EARTHQUAKE IN IRAN
As one of the contracting parties it could be implied that his position is a little one sided. If his view is to be accepted without question than something really has gone amiss.
Can't see his view being accepted and evidence and fact on here by everyone. What I mean is that if he is who he says he is and we have no reason to doubt this. If he is he has access to evidence and fact, he will obviously present this in a certain way. I think rioch is the same he has evidence and fact and does the same. I trust both of them based on past experience, so ......... Can they both be being truthful? Yes !! But Pwkh needs to answer about the invoice to round off this particular circle. On the wider issue waggott who has supporters cause of his honesty, needs to answer what is happening with the club(whoever that is??) and the future academy needs. Why are they not able to get someone from the administrator, Susi, acl, Higgs and possibly sbt in a room and sort this out?? Greed and future revenues I think
Who are SUSI??
so I have just continued reading the eppp rules available on premier league site. You can only keep a non signed boy at the academy for a period of 6weeks in any one season. Players can then go into development centres. Ccfc sbitc run elite advanced centres which sit underneath the academy. Continued development takes place in there. Just spoke to a community coach, there have been in excess of 10 boys taken by the academy out of this programme and offered contracts. The academy are no different to any other pro club they have rules to adhere to. It's the system that has changed not the academy attitude.
Can't see his view being accepted and evidence and fact on here by everyone. What I mean is that if he is who he says he is and we have no reason to doubt this. If he is he has access to evidence and fact, he will obviously present this in a certain way. I think rioch is the same he has evidence and fact and does the same. I trust both of them based on past experience, so ......... Can they both be being truthful? Yes !! But Pwkh needs to answer about the invoice to round off this particular circle. On the wider issue waggott who has supporters cause of his honesty, needs to answer what is happening with the club(whoever that is??) and the future academy needs. Why are they not able to get someone from the administrator, Susi, acl, Higgs and possibly sbt in a room and sort this out?? Greed and future revenues I think
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